Wildcat mk3 vs. maverick. What’s the REAL difference?

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To me, the real choice is Wildcat MK3 or Impact M3. I can also customize the Impact, and get all the power I need/want. While the Mav has fewer orings, a simpler design, and a slightly larger plenum, other than saving a few bucks and possibly getting pinged in the ear (depends who you ask), I saw no reason to pick it over the more developed Impact, so I bought another.
 
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jasmlowe, Nothing more than spending time tuning each of them. I have been able to achieve similar power levels between the 2 by adjusting the usual set of components to work in harmony. My Maverick is not "way more powerful" than my MK3. Very close to equal I would describe my 2. For me, these higher levels of power are of no interest in .22, I have a .30 for that with minimal effort. My current tune on the MK3 is for JSB 25.39 RD pellets and tuned accordingly for target work out to 100yds. While my Maverick is tuned for slugs in the 27.5-30gr range shooting the lower half of the 900's for prairie dogs out to 165-200+. My opinion is that either of these could be used interchangeably. Just be a preference I guess.

Here is a chrono reading I did while making adjustments to the Maverick for an upper baseline to determine where my 2nd reg grub screw registered when "flush" with the body . It was close to peak power but there was no reason for me to continue with critical tuning at these speeds. The data is listed and I can make the same adjustments to the MK3 if I needed to.

Patrick

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Here is a pic of my Maverick Compact 22cal. Granted I like the looks of the Wildcat 3 but still not sure how it's better than the Maverick. My compact can do 55 foot pounds. 



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I have the Maverick also, what barrel length is that?

I'd like to get the 500mm barrel but worry about the 580cc bottle getting in the way of a fat moderator
 
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I have had both wc3 and maverick. The maverick beats it hands down. That particular dual regulator system is the best thing fx created. It’s even better than the impact m3 regulator system. There’s a reason the wc3 is cheaper. You get what you pay for.
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I love the duel regulator system and how it keeps the shots consistent, the naysayer can rot, to say it's something else to go wrong is lame and to think FX put ten's of thousand of dollars into the RD compared to a uneducated "I don't like" statement of unconsciousness is ridiculous
 
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I have had both wc3 and maverick. The maverick beats it hands down. That particular dual regulator system is the best thing fx created. It’s even better than the impact m3 regulator system. There’s a reason the wc3 is cheaper. You get what you pay for.
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I love the duel regulator system and how it keeps the shots consistent, the naysayer can rot, to say it's something else to go wrong is lame and to think FX put ten's of thousand of dollars into the RD compared to a uneducated "I don't like" statement of unconsciousness is ridiculous
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I’m sorry mr. FX fanboy, but unless you have definitive evidence that a dual reg setup is superior to a single high end regulator, your statement is null and void. To bad mouth those that are skeptical is a typical uneducated statement based on hearsay. If you had proof of this being true, you would state the facts and not just a bad mouthing session for those that aren’t die hard FX boys. 
I have had multiple fx rides, and still have. I am also looking hardcore into a maverick. It has NOTHING to do with the dual reg setup, and EVERYTHING to do with their barrels when it comes to shooting slugs. I have no doubt their r&d department does great things, but to call out all skeptics as lame doesn’t get you anywhere in proving a point. 
I would like to see side by side evidence that a dual reg gun can beat a single reg gun in consistency before believing a work that you say. As I stated before, my wildcat with huma reg has an sd of .9! Proper tuning can be just as good as a dual reg setup!


 
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Biggest thing with the dual regulator system is there is no reg creep at all. All of my other fx rifles like the impact and wc3 had some creep. Even brand new they had some creep. The maverick doesn’t take 2-3 shots to to stabilize the regulator, it’s spot on every time
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That’s a great point. Something I didn’t think of!
 
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It is very obvious that the current Wildcat can never compete on power output with a Maverick, Powerpup or Impact because of the lack of plenum space. Pure physics . The Wildcat however can be brought up to a good level with a power plenum like the one made by Ernest Rowe/ airgun 901. The Wildcat out of the box is not a “slugger” but a traditionally powered pellet shooter. When you make a few changes like with mentioned power plenum and install some of other available power stuff you can make the beloved WC very comparable to a Maverick in terms of power output and capability to shoot slugs well . Remains the big bottle ( shot count) on the Maverick and the Meccano like built compared to the airtube and more traditional organic shape of the WC. Matter of need and taste. For me the Wildcat is one of the most beautiful Bullpups in the market and that is a good reason to have one I guess. But the market is more and more demanding for hight powered “sluggers” and that means PLENUM, PLENUM AND PLENUM…. FX has taken this trend to a 72-90 cc plenum volume in their last 3 released airguns for a reason ..😉. I do hope that fx will never delete their good ol’ Wildcat from the range as many of us do adore this timeless design that, with a few tweaks , can still coop with modern demand for airgun shooting. Just a nice walnut stock is missing FX !!!!
 
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Biggest thing with the dual regulator system is there is no reg creep at all. All of my other fx rifles like the impact and wc3 had some creep. Even brand new they had some creep. The maverick doesn’t take 2-3 shots to to stabilize the regulator, it’s spot on every time
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Agree with @2L8 Regs can creep, doesn't matter if you have one, two or three. Creep is creep. Regs operate by a pressure differential between the supply pressure (bottle or tube) and atmosphere (hence the vent holes that all airguns with regs have). Most use Belleville Washers as springs and distance from pin to seat to control actual set pressure. Whether you have a single reg, or two/three in series, they all function the same...

The .22 Maverick is easily capable of 70 FPE without much work. Heavier hammer weight plus setting the reg presures to 190/150 will do the trick, assuming a 700mm barrel. The one I recently got used has a 600mm barrel and power is somewhat less, but still very good (65 FPE). I installed a .22 barrel 700mm from an Impact just to test and 70 FPE was what I saw on my gun. I'm going to install a larger Ernest transfer port and a Huma pin probe just to see how much I can get with the 600mm barrel.
 
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Biggest thing with the dual regulator system is there is no reg creep at all. All of my other fx rifles like the impact and wc3 had some creep. Even brand new they had some creep. The maverick doesn’t take 2-3 shots to to stabilize the regulator, it’s spot on every time
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Agree with @2L8 Regs can creep, doesn't matter if you have one, two or three. Creep is creep. Regs operate by a pressure differential between the supply pressure (bottle or tube) and atmosphere (hence the vent holes that all airguns with regs have). Most use Belleville Washers as springs and distance from pin to seat to control actual set pressure. Whether you have a single reg, or two/three in series, they all function the same...

The .22 Maverick is easily capable of 70 FPE without much work. Heavier hammer weight plus setting the reg presures to 190/150 will do the trick, assuming a 700mm barrel. The one I recently got used has a 600mm barrel and power is somewhat less, but still very good (65 FPE). I installed a .22 barrel 700mm from an Impact just to test and 70 FPE was what I saw on my gun. I'm going to install a larger Ernest transfer port and a Huma pin probe just to see how much I can get with the 600mm barrel.
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Thanks for your posting. Amazing what can be achieved by a .22 these days without having the rifle breaking apart…

i thought the newer guns all had a duo transfer port standard ( can be changed from P (ellet) to S (lug) by using the single hole or dual hole side of the transfer port from FX they install today..?
 
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i thought the newer guns all had a duo transfer port standard ( can be changed from P (ellet) to S (lug) by using the single hole or dual hole side of the transfer port from FX they install today..?

Yes they do, but the port isn't nearly as large as the ones that are used on the Ernest Rowe/ 910 Airguns port. They look more like the first gen Huma bridged ports. 

Also, FYI for all with an older Maverick. If it seems like you have to dial your scope near the top of the elevation adjustment just to get a 50 yard zero, you probably do not have a 20 MOA rail. I noticed this with my used Maverick and measured the rail. It doesn't have a 20 MOA slant. I contacted FX-USA and they said there were some early versions that went out with flat scope pic rails. They are sending me a new one with the 20 MOA slant under warranty free of charge... ;) 
 
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@ladwict

i thought the newer guns all had a duo transfer port standard ( can be changed from P (ellet) to S (lug) by using the single hole or dual hole side of the transfer port from FX they install today..?

Yes they do, but the port isn't nearly as large as the ones that are used on the Ernest Rowe/ 910 Airguns port. They look more like the first gen Huma bridged ports. 

Also, FYI for all with an older Maverick. If it seems like you have to dial your scope near the top of the elevation adjustment just to get a 50 yard zero, you probably do not have a 20 MOA rail. I noticed this with my used Maverick and measured the rail. It doesn't have a 20 MOA slant. I contacted FX-USA and they said there were some early versions that went out with flat scope pic rails. They are sending me a new one with the 20 MOA slant under warranty free of charge... ;)
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Would I check mine by measuring the two end sides of the rail, looking for a higher measurement in the front?
 
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