Winchester 353 and Predom Lucznik side by side.

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My Diana made the model 5 pistol from 1958 to 1978,, Actually, the pistol I am shooting
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marked as a Winchester model 353. Winchester never made airguns, but in the 1970s they had Diana make certain models branded Winchester. This one is a .177 and shoots 367fps averaged. 

This is my Predom Lucznik WZ 1976 air pistol. It was manufactured by Zaklady Metalowe Predom-Lucznik in Radom, Poland from at least 1972 to about 1980 it is a copy of the Walther LP53. It is a .177 caliber and shoots 419fps averaged. 

I shot these pistols side by side today to compare accuracy at 25 feet. I was shooting in a kneeling and off hand, firing 25 shots each.

The first target photo is the result of the Winchester 353 the second the Predom. 
 
Nice shooting!


Those Original 5/ Diana 5/ Hy-Score 815/ Winchester 353 pistols with the solid plastic stocks are fantastic shooting air pistols. I think they are exceedingly sturdy and quite underrated, right now. Perhaps, even under valued. I have the Hy-Score 815 in gray and a Winchester 353 in brown. As near as I can tell they were only made in gray and brown. I did see a comment about a green stocked pistol, though. Have you ever seen a plastic stocked version in green?

Edit- I forgot to add the Gecado 5, as well.
 
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" Did Diana make the Hy-Score pistol line? "


"Diana, Original, Gecado, Geco & RWS Beeman Hy-Score Winchester

  • Diana Model-34 = BAM B25 = Ruger Airhawk
  • Diana Model-350 = BAM B28
  • Diana Model-1 =
  • Diana Model-2 = Hy-Score Model-814
  • Diana Model-5 = Hy-Score Model-815T = Winchester Model-353
  • Diana Model-5G = Beeman Model-700 = Hy-Score Model-825T
  • Diana Model-6 = Hy-Score Model-816M = Winchester Model-363
  • Diana Model-6G = Beeman Model-800 = Hy-Score Model-826T
  • Diana Model-6M =Beeman Model-850 = Hy-Score Model-827T
  • Diana Model-10 = Beeman Model-900 = Hy-Score Model-819M
  • Diana Model-15 = Hy-Score Model-808
  • Diana Model-16 = Hy-Score Model-805 = Winchester Model-416
  • Diana Model-22 = Hy-Score Model-806 = Winchester Model-422
  • Diana Model-23 = Hy-Score Model-813 = Winchester Model-423
  • Diana Model-24 =
  • Diana Model-25 = Hy-Score Model-801 = Winchester Model-425
  • Diana Model-27 = Beeman Model-100 = Hy-Score Model-807 = Winchester Model-427
  • Diana Model-35 = Beeman Model-100200 = Hy-Score Model-809 = Winchester Model-435
  • Diana Model-45 = Beeman Model-250 = Hy-Score Model-828 = Crosman Challenger 6100
  • Diana Model-50 = Winchester Model-450
  • Diana Model-60 = Hy-Score Model-810M
  • Diana Model-66 = Hy-Score Model-810SM/Model-811SM = Winchester Model-333
  • Diana Model-75 = Beeman Model-400/Universal = Hy-Score Model-820SM/Model-830SM

Hy-Score models not made by Diana:

  • Hy-Score pistols Model-800, Model-801, Model-802 made in USA for Hy-Score
  • Hy-Score Model-822T pistol Made by Em-Ge in Germany
  • Hy-Score rifles models Model-821, Model-833SM, Model-894 made by Hammerli
  • Hy-Score Model-824M pistol = Hammerli Master CO2
  • Hy-Score Model-823M pistol = Hammerli Single CO2
  • Hy-Score Model-817M pistol = Wischo/BSF CM
  • Hy-Score Model-818 pistol = Anschutz
  • Hy-Score Model-801 (1st model) rifle = made in Belgium by Anciens Etablissements Pieper in Herstal Belgium "

John
 
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Thank you, John. Many years ago was given chrome, rifled barreled, creme colored plastic gripped, Hy-Score Target Model in .177. Stamped on side: Hy-Score Arms Company New York, NY. Patent pending. Made in USA. Serial number stamped on frame: 822982 Would this be under list of Hy-Score models not made by Diana: Hy-Score pistols Model-800, Model 801, Model 802 made in USA for Hy-Score? Thanks

WM


 
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Hi septic death and others. I have a Winchester Model 353, 177 caliber made in West Germany for Winchester. It was given to me. It likely needs seals and a spring to be operative, as that is what Umarex suspected. Umarex likely has the parts and could work on it, but will not work on anything they do not sell, so I am in a pickle. Can anyone point me in a direction where this air pistol could once again be useful?

Thanks so much.
 
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They are easy to work on. You can do it yourself.

Instructional help.

anotherairgunblog.blogspot.com

Diana Model 5 Disassembly, Part 2

And on we go... The piston link was pulled forward and out of the slot. The piston link. The trigger adjustment screw (with ball) and lockin...
anotherairgunblog.blogspot.com anotherairgunblog.blogspot.com

Parts

5 : JG Airguns, LLC

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Septicdeath said:
They are easy to work on. You can do it yourself.

Instructional help.

anotherairgunblog.blogspot.com

Diana Model 5 Disassembly, Part 2

And on we go... The piston link was pulled forward and out of the slot. The piston link. The trigger adjustment screw (with ball) and lockin...
anotherairgunblog.blogspot.com anotherairgunblog.blogspot.com

Parts

5 : JG Airguns, LLC

JG Airguns : 5 - Accessories, Cleaning Supplies Airguns Ammo, Collectable Ammo, Shootable Books, Catalogs, Manuals, etc. CO2 Cylinders Collectables Mounts, Scopes, Sights, etc. Parts Tools Gift Certificates Buglespanner see Will JG Airguns Accessories, Cleaning Supplies Airguns Ammo, Collectable...
www.jgairguns.biz
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Thank you Septicdeath for this information. It is the most detailed I have seen so far. I know my limitations and this is beyond my capabilities. If there was a gunsmith nearby, the instructions would be invaluable. I live in Medford, OR and will go to several gun shops to see if there is someone who might be able to help.
 
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Septicdeath said:
They are easy to work on. You can do it yourself.

Instructional help.

anotherairgunblog.blogspot.com

Diana Model 5 Disassembly, Part 2

And on we go... The piston link was pulled forward and out of the slot. The piston link. The trigger adjustment screw (with ball) and lockin...
anotherairgunblog.blogspot.com anotherairgunblog.blogspot.com

Parts

5 : JG Airguns, LLC

JG Airguns : 5 - Accessories, Cleaning Supplies Airguns Ammo, Collectable Ammo, Shootable Books, Catalogs, Manuals, etc. CO2 Cylinders Collectables Mounts, Scopes, Sights, etc. Parts Tools Gift Certificates Buglespanner see Will JG Airguns Accessories, Cleaning Supplies Airguns Ammo, Collectable...
www.jgairguns.biz
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Septicdeath, Do you know if the Diana5 and the Winchester 353, 177 caliber are identical? Or identical enough for this kit to be useful?

SK032
Service Kit for Diana 5, 5G and Beeman Mod 700. Includes: standard spring, seals, lube, grease & instructions. - PLEASE NOTE IN THE 'COMMENTS' FIELD OF YOUR ORDER WHICH MODEL YOUR AIRGUN IS SO WE CAN INCLUDE THE CORRECT DIAGRAM. https://www.gunspares.co.uk/products/24392/5/
 
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mikies said:
Septicdeath, Do you know if the Diana5 and the Winchester 353, 177 caliber are identical? Or identical enough for this kit to be useful?

SK032
Service Kit for Diana 5, 5G and Beeman Mod 700. Includes: standard spring, seals, lube, grease & instructions. - PLEASE NOTE IN THE 'COMMENTS' FIELD OF YOUR ORDER WHICH MODEL YOUR AIRGUN IS SO WE CAN INCLUDE THE CORRECT DIAGRAM. https://www.gunspares.co.uk/products/24392/5/
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Yes I now this. I do my own guns.
 
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mikies said:
Thank you Septicdeath for this information. It is the most detailed I have seen so far. I know my limitations and this is beyond my capabilities. If there was a gunsmith nearby, the instructions would be invaluable. I live in Medford, OR and will go to several gun shops to see if there is someone who might be able to help.
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I don't no anyone in our part of the woods to help you out. I don't do others guns. Have a full time job already.
 
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mikies said:
Here's my thinking: If that Diana5 kit would work for my Winchester 353, then were I to find someone in my neck of the woods who had the skills I do not, then that kit should make my Winchester workable again. What do you think of that idea? It hinges on that kit working on the Winchester 353.
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They are the same guns but 353 winchester branded them and imported to US. The Hy Score model is slightly different inside.
 
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mikies said:
I see no marking on the pistol or original box, that this is a Hy Score. Would it be reasonable to assume that its a typical 353 and therefore I could cautiously precede ahead with my plan. I'm meeting a firearm's person tomorrow morning and was going to bring my 353 and explain my circumstance.
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www.pyramydair.com

Diana’s model 5 air pistol: Part 1 | Blog | Pyramyd AIR

by Tom Gaylord Writing as B.B. Pelletier This Diana model 5 air pistol is marked as a Winchester model 353. A history of airguns This report covers: Iconic air pistol History Winchester Gun Broker The gun Grip Sights Trigger Expected performance Iconic air pistol Today we begin looking at one of...
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