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Hi everyone, new member and my first post here.

I'm looking to upgrade from my Gamo Magnum break-barrel to a PCP rifle of good quality. I'm looking for a rifle that is precise up to 100 yd, has shot count above 100 per fill, as quiet as possible with a suppressor, and is very reliable / low maintenance. I have a budget of up to $2,500 for the rifle, and I already know I have to buy other things as well.

I like the features of the newer electronic guns but I am hesitant about the electronics lasting for decades. I'm spending a lot here and I want a rifle that I can hand down to my kids.

So something mechanical with a good trigger and good options for tuning on the fly would be great. I'm looking at .25 or .30 caliber, primarily for benchrest target shooting. I don't plan on hunting except for taking out rats in my backyard.

The FX Impact M4 seems good but I'm worried about maintenance and overall build quality. Other than that, I've been recommended a Daystate Wolverine HP, which is nice looking, but the shot count is lower than I prefer.

Your opinions and guidance is much appreciated!
 
Lots of things that might help you said here:

Brocock/BRK - Torn on what to get.

Looking for a good mid range first PCP. I like Daystate or Brocock. Don't really want to start out with top of the line but have a friend who just ordered an Impact M4 and don't want him to out shoot me. :) I have read reviews on lots of guns but maybe I have read to many. Mostly would do...
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My RAW is a 22 caliber and gets around 50 shots and maybe up to 60 per fill. I’m shooting jsb 25:39 gr pellets at 885 fps or the 18 gr. Jsb pellets at 1030 fps. I’ve found the 18 s slightly more accurate than the 25 s. At least at shorter ranges.
My M3 is 30 cal. and shoots the 44 gr jsb pellets at 890 fps and I get about 60 shots per fill.
 
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Gerry52 said:
If you're looking for 100 shots/fill you'll be hard pressed to find a .30 that will deliver that imho. Have you looked at AGT guns, Vulcan or Urugan? Taipan Veteran 2 tactical or Vet 2 long? Solid build quality & great reputation. FX Panthera is another to check out.
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Uragan king or FX Panthera with rear (300 cc) and front (580 cc) bottle.

Daystate Wolverine HR non HP .25 Cal with 700 cc bottle.

Those will give 100 shots per fill.
 
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You can get 100 shoots per fill with regulated bottle pcp's shooting around 25 gr pellets in .25 cal.
I have Impact mk2 and Uragan 30 cal.Both great. Impact with 44 gr pellets at around 865 fps around 60 shoots per fill.Uragan same speed with 50 gr slugs around 50.
My Impact is over 4 years old if not 5 already and never had the smallest issue.
 
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kwaping said:
Point definitely taken on the .30 shot count. I'm not really that interested in .30 except for how well it resists wind compared to something like a .22. That's why I was thinking .25 was a good compromise.

Thanks for the recommendations so far! I'm going to check them all out. Keep 'em coming!
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Keep in mind that slugs deal much better with wind than pellets.

Find a .25 Cal that can shoot slugs right and you will be done.

FX Panthera 600 mm

Uragan King

Wolverine

Look at this 5 shot group with FX DRS .22 Cal and NSA slugs at 80 mts (87.5 yards). DRS gives very few shots per fill, but Panthera with double bottle will give a lot of shots per fill:

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I don't see a distance you be shooting listed. That is key & your general wind conditions for were you shoot. I shoot slow , sigle shot mode when seriouse & air up after 32 shots regardless on my .25 & .30 RAW's . The super high fill pressure that some of these airguns can handle also are very hard on the cheap compressors...something to think about..
Id find a NOS RAW with the non ambi action for 1500 & put a nice scope on it.
Also....everyone is slug crazy but don't under estimate what a .25 or .30 pellet can do at 75-100 . especially at 75
 
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Jaxjax said:
I don't see a distance you be shooting listed. That is key & your general wind conditions for were you shoot. I shoot slow , sigle shot mode when seriouse & air up after 32 shots regardless on my .25 & .30 RAW's . The super high fill pressure that some of these airguns can handle also are very hard on the cheap compressors...something to think about..
Id find a NOS RAW with the non ambi action for 1500 & put a nice scope on it.
Also....everyone is slug crazy but don't under estimate what a .25 or .30 pellet can do at 75-100 . especially at 75
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I'd like to be precise up to 100 yards. Thanks for all the helpful info in your post! Especially the compressor part, I didn't think about the fill pressure.
 
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kwaping said:
I'd like to be precise up to 100 yards. Thanks for all the helpful info in your post! Especially the compressor part, I didn't think about the fill pressure.
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you should be honest with yourself on whether shipping an entire airgun back to dealer for up to 5 years is something your willing to do or are you planning to do any repairs yourself ? Many great airguns to be had...many have a crap ton of orings which isn't a big deal for someone who is willing to watch alot of youtube & study. Low Oring count is king in my book but thats just me. If you are in any way thinking electronic might be ok then i would definitely look at Skout as they will not leave you hangin. They have a strong history on the electronic end of things.
 
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Jaxjax said:
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you should be honest with yourself on whether shipping an entire airgun back to dealer for up to 5 years is something your willing to do or are you planning to do any repairs yourself ? Many great airguns to be had...many have a crap ton of orings which isn't a big deal for someone who is willing to watch alot of youtube & study. Low Oring count is king in my book but thats just me. If you are in any way thinking electronic might be ok then i would definitely look at Skout as they will not leave you hangin. They have a strong history on the electronic end of things.
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Thank you for that advice. I feel somewhat comfortable with standard maintenance, but of course less is always best, right? Do you have any suggestions for brands that are more reliable or less maintenance?

Also thank you for your opinion on Skout, their guns look really great. My only concern is the electronics lasting for potentially decades. If it wasn't for that, I think I would go with one of those. Am I being unreasonable?
 
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kwaping said:
Thank you for that advice. I feel somewhat comfortable with standard maintenance, but of course less is always best, right? Do you have any suggestions for brands that are more reliable or less maintenance?

Also thank you for your opinion on Skout, their guns look really great. My only concern is the electronics lasting for potentially decades. If it wasn't for that, I think I would go with one of those. Am I being unreasonable?
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the lasting decades part to me is questionable , they do not call this a
Rabbit Hole for no reason . Something new will catch your eye and wallet . As for the present i would recommend a RAW fewer O rings to replace and the rifles will do what you describe .
EDIT : Welcome to the best AGN.
 
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kwaping said:
Thank you for that advice. I feel somewhat comfortable with standard maintenance, but of course less is always best, right? Do you have any suggestions for brands that are more reliable or less maintenance?

Also thank you for your opinion on Skout, their guns look really great. My only concern is the electronics lasting for potentially decades. If it wasn't for that, I think I would go with one of those. Am I being unreasonable?
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Beerthief has a valid point. I wouldn't shy away from Skout because of the multi decade thing. In fact I would go to their website & look around. There a fairly new company that is actually not & in the US with very reputable customer service. RAW is proven reliable with low oring count & simple to work on. All the rage is externally adjustable everything....but outa the box AGT, RAW, Taipan, AAA really don't need such things IMO unless your jumping around with slugs & pellets.
The RAW trigger is very very good & electronic would be the next step up from that I suppose. AAA also is something to look at, they have a new series of airguns coming out supposedly, but Ive heard this for a long while. The AAA rigs are bullet proof.. Do your research on POI shifts as it's a thing... If you can't lean an airgun up without a POI shift why have it.?
 
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Everyone has their favorite rifle but I'll repeat what another poster wrote...

If you ever purchase one gun then purchase a FX Crown MK2. I wasn't sure at first as I'm not that into classic rifles but damn do I like this rifle. I have pricier and you could say better guns but this is the one I would pick from my lineup of rifles. It has good ergonomics, it looks nice, it's quiet and accurate and has a good trigger.

I have Daystates, Leshiys, Effectos, Hatsans, AEA, RTI and I probably missed a few rifle cases while listing but I prefer my Crown. It's just something on it I like. So my suggestion would be look at the rifles listed, make a selection (what looks good to me maybe won't look good to you) and then if you have a chance go look at it personally.
 
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