Airforce Yet More Texan questions. Why the swing in votes?

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Sable44 said:
Lots of great information coming in!! It seems my choice is ok but I still have to make that caliber decision! Have to scrub my uses..
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long distance shooting..I think 308&45.. I love watching the quickly bucket challenge with airguns.. world record longest shot with a air gun was over a mile Texan 308.. but hunting and rules will affect your need..
in case you don't know almost all the airforce guns use the same tank.. just different valve.. except for the escape and the carbon fiber..
please let me know if there's any information I can help you with as far as Condor.. but I think you are looking for larger caliber.. I've really enjoyed the Condor's.
Mark
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Sable44 said:
Hi, Not to derail my own post but...what is valve lock
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Valve lock in a PCP (Pre-Charged Pneumatic) air gun occurs when the air pressure inside the reservoir is too high for the hammer and hammer spring to open the valve fully. This means that the valve remains partially closed, preventing air from flowing through and reducing the power of the shot1.
Here's a simplified explanation:
  1. Normal Operation: When the hammer strikes the valve stem, it opens the valve, allowing air to flow from the reservoir and propel the pellet.
  2. Over-Pressurization: If the pressure inside the reservoir exceeds the design limits, the hammer can't open the valve completely.
  3. Reduced Air Flow: This results in less air being released, leading to lower pellet velocity and reduced power.
Valve lock can be dangerous and should be avoided by not exceeding the recommended fill pressure for your air gun. Always follow the manufacturer's guidelines for filling and maintaining your PCP air gun.
Does that help clarify things?
 
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357cal said:
Valve lock in a PCP (Pre-Charged Pneumatic) air gun occurs when the air pressure inside the reservoir is too high for the hammer and hammer spring to open the valve fully. This means that the valve remains partially closed, preventing air from flowing through and reducing the power of the shot1.
Here's a simplified explanation:
  1. Normal Operation: When the hammer strikes the valve stem, it opens the valve, allowing air to flow from the reservoir and propel the pellet.
  2. Over-Pressurization: If the pressure inside the reservoir exceeds the design limits, the hammer can't open the valve completely.
  3. Reduced Air Flow: This results in less air being released, leading to lower pellet velocity and reduced power.
Valve lock can be dangerous and should be avoided by not exceeding the recommended fill pressure for your air gun. Always follow the manufacturer's guidelines for filling and maintaining your PCP air gun.
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Perfect! Thank You very Much! What about a god awful hammer spring and a heavier hammer?
And I hear I must research temperatures vs pressure.
 
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Sable44 said:
Hey PMike, another side bar. Left in the sun?? Hell I live in Oklahoma!!!!! So I need to study temperatures??
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My advice is to buy a used Texan Lss Cf i have seen them go as low as $500.00...The main problem that quite a few of us have had on the new Texans involve there auto saftey trigger ..I had issues with mine twice..I ended up deleting auto saftey trigger ..So seems a common problem..I hate the auto saftey many of us who use the airforce platforms delete them...
 
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Welcome Sable44. I am relatively new as well.

I've had a AF Texan LSS CF in .457 for about a year with zero issues. I'm not the best shot, but shooting off of a tripod I get 1.5" at 30 yards. Most of the hunting on my property, in thick vegetation, is 20 yards or less. I hunt at nighttime with a thermal for feral hogs and armadillos.

The .457 hits like a sledgehammer and the hogs drop in their tracks. I use NSA 298 grain knurled hollow points which leave impressive wound channels.

It is a bit unweilding due to its length, so I recommend a tripod. It's a simple rifle which works perfectly for me.

Hope this helps.

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RM.510bigbore said:
My advice is to buy a used Texan Lss Cf i have seen them go as low as $500.00...The main problem that quite a few of us have had on the new Texans involve there auto saftey trigger ..I had issues with mine twice..I ended up deleting auto saftey trigger ..So seems a common problem..I hate the auto saftey many of us who use the airforce platforms delete them...
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Interesting on the safety issue. Doesn't sound like major tinkering. So then you have just no mechanical safety. But, it's just a single shot single load. I don't really see a problem there, Thanks for the heads up!
I would like to find one of these $500 with CF!
 
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MAUMAU said:
Welcome Sable44. I am relatively new as well.

I've had a AF Texan LSS CF in .457 for about a year with zero issues. I'm not the best shot, but shooting off of a tripod I get 1.5" at 30 yards. Most of the hunting on my property, in thick vegetation, is 20 yards or less. I hunt at nighttime with a thermal for feral hogs and armadillos.

The .457 hits like a sledgehammer and the hogs drop in their tracks. I use NSA 298 grain knurled hollow points which leave impressive wound channels.

It is a bit unweilding due to its length, so I recommend a tripod. It's a simple rifle which works perfectly for me.

Hope this helps.

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Nice Hunt!!
 
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MAUMAU said:
Welcome Sable44. I am relatively new as well.

I've had a AF Texan LSS CF in .457 for about a year with zero issues. I'm not the best shot, but shooting off of a tripod I get 1.5" at 30 yards. Most of the hunting on my property, in thick vegetation, is 20 yards or less. I hunt at nighttime with a thermal for feral hogs and armadillos.

The .457 hits like a sledgehammer and the hogs drop in their tracks. I use NSA 298 grain knurled hollow points which leave impressive wound channels.

It is a bit unweilding due to its length, so I recommend a tripod. It's a simple rifle which works perfectly for me.

Hope this helps.

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I'd like to hang out with you for a couple evenings!!!
 
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Sable44 said:
Interesting on the safety issue. Doesn't sound like major tinkering. So then you have just no mechanical safety. But, it's just a single shot single load. I don't really see a problem there, Thanks for the heads up!
I would like to find one of these $500 with CF!
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No you still have the saftey it just does not auto set it self...It is much more plesant for range work...
 
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Sable44
you just hit paydirt.. RM.510bigbore is a great person to know about the Texan, I've followed as many posts as I can from him..he and a couple others, forgot who but have a lot of experience..if he says it is what you need to know..
yes one pin and you remove the auto safety,I haven't yet.. it's still got manual safety and on top of that with auto safety you cannot decock the rifle but with it removed, then you can decock the rifle just by opening the breach and pull the trigger and ride the breach closed slowly.. it's how all the new ones come from the factory, probably a lawyer thing.. I prefer manual safety and being able to decock it.. unfortunately if you remove the auto safety it voids the warranty... which is lifetime.
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I've had multiple AF guns in the past and currently including a couple Texans.

Some thoughts, and likely echoing what many others have said.

They are simple and usually very reliable. They have great support both manufacturer and aftermarket.

All airguns have their fan boys and their haters. I think a couple reasons the AF line of guns is so polarizing is that 1. they require holding them more like a springer. Cant gorilla them when shooting. Also, for those who have been around a while, you may recall when the Condor first came out, there was some issues. It was advertised as a 3kpsi fill and often, doing so would result in quite a few soft shots. Many of us tried to modify our guns for more power, etc and the 'spokesman' for AF at the time would often scoff at the modifications and would say that they were unnecessary. Caused a little mini war between the old TOG forum and this individual. The funny thing is that many of the modifications we came up with back in the day ended up being used in later versions of AF guns.
At the time of their release, there wasnt many 'Mr. Potato Head' airguns out there. This allowed for a LOT of user tinkering and a lot of damaged guns due to the tinkering. Nowadays, aftermarket parts and various modifications are readily available for many guns out there. The industry has evolved.

Specifically with big bores, ammo selection is key. We as seasoned airgunners know this, but with the name recognition of AF guns, this put big big bores more firmly on the map than before and people figured they could just use whatever would fit in the bore. Not really the case with big bores as many people have since figured out.

I went through a spell of selling off many of my AF guns, but recently have had a bit of a resurgence in interest and have picked up a TalonP to go along with the 5 or so others that I still have. They are great guns for what they are and infinitely moddable.
 
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I love my big .510 Texan..It does shoot one hole very quiet..But it does break and eat some parts up . Today the Aluminum carrier tube screws stripped out when I went to cock in the hunting shack.. Mine is stock setup.I guess I'm going to have to get African air ordinance metal carrier tube.. The screws stripped out carrier tube definitely ends a hunt lol ..I think I'm going to buy another used Texan to have 2 so I have a back up when one break s
 
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