Snowpeak Zelos-M60 Side By Side Comparison, Specs & More

I just got my Zelos in .25 today for a special project but before I start working on it, I wanted to do a real side by side comparison of the gun, the barrel, special features and any differences.

Cocking handles, selector switch and trigger are the same but the selector switch on the Zelos has some new paint. The Zelos also has its name on the lever side. The trigger guard was aftermarket on the M60 from AGRF and does fit the Zelos if you order one from Wes. There are no other differences

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The very first thing I saw was the barrel and shroud. The Zelos sports a 650mm barrel while the M60 sports a 600mm barrel while the shroud on the Zelos makes the gun much longer overall. While that's not a lot of difference, it can have an impact on portability while hunting and pesting as well as backpacking.

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The left side of the receiver is where all the fun is. The Zelos gets a degassing screw! YEA! Also present is a new 5k burst disk for safety. I guess I dont see the need for 5k this far after the regulator but hey, SAP, thanks for the effort... :rolleyes:


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I spoke of the barrel length differences and the Zelos shroud length already but the engineers didn't stop with dropping easter eggs on this gun, we have a 3-3/8" unfilled space for.... something?

Was it going to be a baffle stack? An Insert? A secret hiding place for cash and prizes? Dunno but other than an expansion chamber, it fails as a moderator where about a buck worth of baffles may have sucked but it would have been an attempt at sound dampening.

Opportunity missed.... :cool:


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If you got all this way into this post and missed the first sentence, I'll fill you in on the special project but first, let me ask you all looking at the Zelos and thinking about purchasing one this question. Is there any interest in a 500mm compact version?

Yupper, 500mm, barrel threaded to 1/2x20 UNF at the end, no adapters, no extended shroud. Look at the above measurements, the barrel would end at the 19.6" mark, 2-1/4" past the picrail. Add a 200cc CF bottle, you have a nicely compact Zelos.

I'd like your feedback, good or bad.

FWA

P.S. More to be added as I get into the gun more, like why are the tubes and bottles missing?
 
I just got my Zelos in .25 today for a special project but before I start working on it, I wanted to do a real side by side comparison of the gun, the barrel, special features and any differences.

Cocking handles, selector switch and trigger are the same but the selector switch on the Zelos has some new paint. The Zelos also has its name on the lever side. The trigger guard was aftermarket on the M60 from AGRF and does fit the Zelos if you order one from Wes. There are no other differences

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The very first thing I saw was the barrel and shroud. The Zelos sports a 650mm barrel while the M60 sports a 600mm barrel while the shroud on the Zelos makes the gun much longer overall. While that's not a lot of difference, it can have an impact on portability while hunting and pesting as well as backpacking.

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The left side of the receiver is where all the fun is. The Zelos gets a degassing screw! YEA! Also present is a new 5k burst disk for safety. I guess I dont see the need for 5k this far after the regulator but hey, SAP, thanks for the effort... :rolleyes:


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I spoke of the barrel length differences and the Zelos shroud length already but the engineers didn't stop with dropping easter eggs on this gun, we have a 3-3/8" unfilled space for.... something?

Was it going to be a baffle stack? An Insert? A secret hiding place for cash and prizes? Dunno but other than an expansion chamber, it fails as a moderator where about a buck worth of baffles may have sucked but it would have been an attempt at sound dampening.

Opportunity missed.... :cool:


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If you got all this way into this post and missed the first sentence, I'll fill you in on the special project but first, let me ask you all looking at the Zelos and thinking about purchasing one this question. Is there any interest in a 500mm compact version?

Yupper, 500mm, barrel threaded to 1/2x20 UNF at the end, no adapters, no extended shroud. Look at the above measurements, the barrel would end at the 19.6" mark, 2-1/4" past the picrail. Add a 200cc CF bottle, you have a nicely compact Zelos.

I'd like your feedback, good or bad.

FWA

P.S. More to be added as I get into the gun more, like why are the tubes and bottles missing?
I like the idea! One I had myself.
 
Can you tell us if the snowpeak m60 and zelos barrel are exactly the same? Like material and twist rate? Is barrel made by same maker/company? Have you tested both barrels for accuracy? Any difference?

Let's settle this once and for all: SPA is the manufacturer and parent company. SnowPeak is the non-USA distribution company and Umarex is the USA distribution company.

Yes, there is overlap, yes you can buy a SnowPeak from Wes, there are some incongruity but they are made in the same factory by the same people.
 
Can you tell us if the snowpeak m60 and zelos barrel are exactly the same? Like material and twist rate? Is barrel made by same maker/company? Have you tested both barrels for accuracy? Any difference?

Testing and twist etc. Are next on my list but at first blush, yes, these are the same barrels just shorter/longer.
 
The unused air space, dampens the noise level considerably.
My .25 was loud with no shroud!

I threw my Tanto on an adapter and attached it to the bare Zelos barrel and as expected, the hollow can type moderator was about the same as the air space but did cut the more pronounced "crack" more.

I spun on my Tango Sierra / Long John moderator and was tickled that it hushed the noise to Notos sound levels.

A wasted opertunity for sound reduction but I'm working on a solution.
 
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First test shoot for the Zelos, looks to do a bit better at 50 yards with JSB 25gr pellets than the M60. Cant do paper for comparison today but I'll try to get targets posted by Monday night at the latest.

I'm using Tango Sierra's Big Air slug mags, the open face is SICK! Turn all the way till it stops and fill the mag. No cover, no backwards pellets, no spring-back and no loosy-goosy fit in the breach.
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First test shoot for the Zelos, looks to do a bit better at 50 yards with JSB 25gr pellets than the M60. Cant do paper for comparison today but I'll try to get targets posted by Monday night at the latest.

I'm using Tango Sierra's Big Air slug mags, the open face is SICK! Turn all the way till it stops and fill the mag. No cover, no backwards pellets, no spring-back and no loosy-goosy fit in the breach. View attachment 505600
Who is Tango Sierra? I would love another option for mags. I can't find anything on this outfit.