I own a MA2 but don’t have a zelos or m60 I would say the better buy would be the Zelos…
To me it’s a better platform with more options and capabilities and I’ll add that all 3 of the SPA guns I do have will outshoot my MA2!
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Snowpeak Zelos-M60 Side By Side Comparison, Specs & More
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I own a MA2 but don’t have a zelos or m60 I would say the better buy would be the Zelos…
To me it’s a better platform with more options and capabilities and I’ll add that all 3 of the SPA guns I do have will outshoot my MA2!
Solid timing Firewalker! This was one of the mid range guns I was looking at!I just got my Zelos in .25 today for a special project but before I start working on it, I wanted to do a real side by side comparison of the gun, the barrel, special features and any differences.
Cocking handles, selector switch and trigger are the same but the selector switch on the Zelos has some new paint. The Zelos also has its name on the lever side. The trigger guard was aftermarket on the M60 from AGRF and does fit the Zelos if you order one from Wes. There are no other differences
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The very first thing I saw was the barrel and shroud. The Zelos sports a 650mm barrel while the M60 sports a 600mm barrel while the shroud on the Zelos makes the gun much longer overall. While that's not a lot of difference, it can have an impact on portability while hunting and pesting as well as backpacking.
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The left side of the receiver is where all the fun is. The Zelos gets a degassing screw! YEA! Also present is a new 5k burst disk for safety. I guess I dont see the need for 5k this far after the regulator but hey, SAP, thanks for the effort...
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I spoke of the barrel length differences and the Zelos shroud length already but the engineers didn't stop with dropping easter eggs on this gun, we have a 3-3/8" unfilled space for.... something?
Was it going to be a baffle stack? An Insert? A secret hiding place for cash and prizes? Dunno but other than an expansion chamber, it fails as a moderator where about a buck worth of baffles may have sucked but it would have been an attempt at sound dampening.
Opportunity missed....
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If you got all this way into this post and missed the first sentence, I'll fill you in on the special project but first, let me ask you all looking at the Zelos and thinking about purchasing one this question. Is there any interest in a 500mm compact version?
Yupper, 500mm, barrel threaded to 1/2x20 UNF at the end, no adapters, no extended shroud. Look at the above measurements, the barrel would end at the 19.6" mark, 2-1/4" past the picrail. Add a 200cc CF bottle, you have a nicely compact Zelos.
I'd like your feedback, good or bad.
FWA
P.S. More to be added as I get into the gun more, like why are the tubes and bottles missing?
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@Firewalker how are these barrels designed on the breech end? Similar to an FX with the separate transfer port piece, or are they the typical hole in the barrel/o-ring at the end setup?
Curious if an FX barrel would go in one like the notos.
I'm also liking the compact idea! Mine is a 30 cal, so cutting it down would kill the power, but a 22 or 25 would be schweet.
Curious if an FX barrel would go in one like the notos.
I'm also liking the compact idea! Mine is a 30 cal, so cutting it down would kill the power, but a 22 or 25 would be schweet.
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It just so happens that cfs916 (a member here at AGN) has developed something you may be interested in.
PM me for details.
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I'm in chat with him right now, he's just cranky.
Chan (c88machining) is making an FX barrel kit for the Zelos/M60 and I'm evaluating it.
He's not going fast enough for me and others don't want a liner so I'm still doing a solid barrel version of a compact.
Chan (c88machining) is making an FX barrel kit for the Zelos/M60 and I'm evaluating it.
He's not going fast enough for me and others don't want a liner so I'm still doing a solid barrel version of a compact.
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Who’s we ?? 
I’m super pumped to see your first iteration of the Zelos compact.
I’m super pumped to see your first iteration of the Zelos compact.
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I'd say they're in the neighborhood of 16mm, at least it looks like it on the 30 cal.
I watched a video on the porting job and it confirmed for me that the barrel is standard style with the transfer port and 2 o-rings, it's not like an FX setup.
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But they WILL be!
*Someone is working on a barrel kit as we speak, I'll get a copy and work out the bugs then it will go live.
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But they WILL be!
*Someone is working on a barrel kit as we speak, I'll get a copy and work out the bugs then it will go live.
I got my .25 FX barrel kit and installed it. I'll get speeds this week.
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The Barra 250 looks just like the snowpeak m30b. I bet they are same gun,with different name also.I just got my Zelos in .25 today for a special project but before I start working on it, I wanted to do a real side by side comparison of the gun, the barrel, special features and any differences.
Cocking handles, selector switch and trigger are the same but the selector switch on the Zelos has some new paint. The Zelos also has its name on the lever side. The trigger guard was aftermarket on the M60 from AGRF and does fit the Zelos if you order one from Wes. There are no other differences
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The very first thing I saw was the barrel and shroud. The Zelos sports a 650mm barrel while the M60 sports a 600mm barrel while the shroud on the Zelos makes the gun much longer overall. While that's not a lot of difference, it can have an impact on portability while hunting and pesting as well as backpacking.
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The left side of the receiver is where all the fun is. The Zelos gets a degassing screw! YEA! Also present is a new 5k burst disk for safety. I guess I dont see the need for 5k this far after the regulator but hey, SAP, thanks for the effort...
View attachment 505402
I spoke of the barrel length differences and the Zelos shroud length already but the engineers didn't stop with dropping easter eggs on this gun, we have a 3-3/8" unfilled space for.... something?
Was it going to be a baffle stack? An Insert? A secret hiding place for cash and prizes? Dunno but other than an expansion chamber, it fails as a moderator where about a buck worth of baffles may have sucked but it would have been an attempt at sound dampening.
Opportunity missed....
View attachment 505404
If you got all this way into this post and missed the first sentence, I'll fill you in on the special project but first, let me ask you all looking at the Zelos and thinking about purchasing one this question. Is there any interest in a 500mm compact version?
Yupper, 500mm, barrel threaded to 1/2x20 UNF at the end, no adapters, no extended shroud. Look at the above measurements, the barrel would end at the 19.6" mark, 2-1/4" past the picrail. Add a 200cc CF bottle, you have a nicely compact Zelos.
I'd like your feedback, good or bad.
FWA
P.S. More to be added as I get into the gun more, like why are the tubes and bottles missing?
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