700mm CZ barrel in Taipan Long .22 - testing different ammo's

( updating this thread as I'm actually testing a variety of ammo - not just the H&N's . . . )

. . . and a tin of JSB KO's. ( .217's ) I've already tried some .216 KO's and the barrel didn't seem to like them.

I've currently got a known tune at my 40 yd zero with FX Hybrids that gave me a 10 shot group yesterday smaller than a penny. See this link here.

My H&N sample packs showed up in the mail today and I'm thinking just shoot with the (known good) existing tune at given targets - where they actually impact is where they impact - we're really looking to see what ammo has the best consistency with respect to repeatedly hitting the same spot - yes? I have 30 of each weight - I figure I'll do 5 shot groups at each one, and take it from there - those that group the best make it to the next round of 5 shots and obviously making note of which of the candidates looks to be the most promising.

I just went out in the barn and found this big cardboard box - I'm going to park it out at my 40 yard mark and see what happens.

Re-reading this - I'll run each of the 5 shot groups over my chrony too to record that data also ( speed per weight - heavier ones will likely go slower, possibly the .218's too )

Does this sound like a good approach? What is a "best practice" for narrowing down a good ammo?

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I was reading up on the Altaros slugs last night on their site and I believe they said to start with the larger diameter and work your way down. For what reason I don’t know. I did the opposite figuring it’s be cleaner for the barrel but it might lead the barrel more evenly. All I know is they know more than me.

I had targets at 30, 50, 75, and 100 when testing mine but did a quick “on the paper check” at 30 and went straight to 100 trying to save time with 100 plus being the goal.

Looks like you have a solid method going.
 
20 October - so the last two days ( like literally - 48 hours - ugh ) have been dreary, drizzly, rainy, damp and cold - non-stop. ( OK - not *cold* per se but - you know - upper 40's to barely 50* when raining - not exactly comfy ) {sigh} Needless to say - not a lot of shooting or testing happening but I was determined to get *something* done with these sample packs I got. The range where I'm able to shoot at - fortunately the tables we shoot off of are all under a roof - one can stay dry. My car isn't terribly huge either so I was able to back it up practically right into the area where the tables are - so I did. No one else there so no one would care . . .

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I figured I would at least capture a 'snapshot' of how fast each of these ammo's are going to go based off of a 'reference' tune that I have the rifle set for at present. The numbers proved interesting and leave me with a question - that I think I already know the answer to (?).

Check this out:

The gun is really good right now with FX Hybrids @964fps - most of ya'll know - 22 grain weight-wise. The H&N sample packs only come with 30 of each weight - so I kind of want need to be a bit frugal for now . . . without making any change to the gun at all I fired two of each size (.217 and .218) in the weights that I'm interested in (25, 27 and 30) then taking the two speeds from each shot and picking a number in the middle to call it an "average". Ie; shot 1 = 850fps, shot 2 = 846 - call it 848 avg fps. Yeah - not super scientific but again - I've only got 30 to play with. ( 28 now . . .  ) I kind of expected the .218's to be slower as they should be a tighter fit yet . . . they were all FASTER. In all three weights.

.217 / 25g - 919fps
.218 / 25g - 926fps

.217 / 27g - 884fps
.218 / 27g - 891fps

.217 / 30g - 823fps
.218 / 30g - 836fps

. . . which leads me to my 'self answering' question: Because the .218's are tighter fitting - yet seemingly flying FASTER . . . are they the better choice for this barrel? Tighter fit, no - or at least less - air getting past them as they make their way out of the barrel after pulling the trigger?

It was miserable out - this was literally all I did was just shoot two of each to record speeds. I didn't shoot at any target looking for accuracy / consistency but I think (?) I may have gleaned something useful from this - that was also surprising. I fully expected the .218's to be slower - but they weren't. I'm wondering if I can already just rule out the .217's and just test with the .218's. What do you guys think?

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I'm really enjoying following along, please keep us updated as the testing progresses. 

There's a 24 inch non choked LW barrel machined for my Vet Long at my machinist buddies house, just need to have some time for doing exactly what you're up to. I also recently added the plenum. So, I likely won't gain as much oomph as you did (going to 23.75 from 21.75 vs going to nearly 27 inches like you did), but I'm still finding it interesting to see your power gains and other results. 

Anyway, finding your results quite relevant to what I'll be getting to play with in the near future (hopefully). 
 
My guess is It looks like you are gaining velocity with the 218's because they get a better seal in the barrel and usually a better fitting slug will center in the rifling better which usually provides higher precision.

I say "usually" because the proof is in the targets, good not just at medium distances but farther out too. I think part of that has to do with elements of a slugs design, etc. 

A friend of mine made his own swage dies and has been testing for months with various configurations of match grade barrels, chambers, slug designs, etc, and is narrowing this stuff down! He sent me a pic of 25 shots on target at 50Y with approx 1/2" vertical and not much wider, this done in 8mph winds. That's right on the heals of the best 22rf's money can buy using $25 a box ammo!
 
Hey all -- ok - an update to this. Work has been crazy and by the time I get home from work I *might* have 45 minutes to do some shooting at the range which hasn't allowed for me to do a lot - when I'm even able to get there lately.

So . . . I've changed the gun some since my last post. I was not happy at all with results I was getting with the sample packs - maybe I was feeling "rushed" due to lack of daylight (yep), slapping in ammo straight of of the package not cleaned or lubed at all like I normally do (possibly) - reg pressure way to high - I'm kind of guessing possibly. Long story short - I pretty much ran out of the sample packs of the H&N's and was NOT happy at all with the results of ANY of them - this was a major bummer. Some reading in here and elsewhere on the web led me across a couple of messages re: reg pressure being to high (esp with a power plenum installed) and potentially messing with harmonics. (?) Now I don't know about all of that but I did know that my reg was set at around 140 bar and that perhaps with this new longer barrel + the add on plenum - maybe it was in fact a bit "hot". I decided to tear the gun down and throttle the reg back. Turns out that it was actually at 145 . . . whoa ... it was "hotter" than I thought. I dialed it back to around 128 ( it's a HUMA so relatively easy to do ) and since I've got the thing all apart I may as well clean the barrel too. It was FILTHY!!! Holy crap was it dirty . . . . 

Fast fwd'ing a couple of days. Friday after getting home from work I managed to get in 20 minutes or so of time with it since the complete rebuild and barrel cleaning. I figured that I'd start out really basic and just see how it would handle JSB 18g pellets. After shooting some sighters and roughly dialing in the scope I got this - that'll work. :) It was cool'ish and WINDY - but this was MUCH better than what I'd previously experienced with it - I was happy with that and went home.

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I planned on spending some time with it today but hey - it's getting cold out now and guess what decides to take a s@#t? The pellet stove that I heat the house with. {sigh} wonderful. ( if any of you know anything about clearing error codes, specifically "H" msgs - Hi Temp trigger - I'm all ears - the tech I had out to the house today and myself - we cannot get the damned thing cleared and the stove is a brick. Fortunately it's not terribly cold - yet . . . I may be in the market for a new pellet stove. {sigh} ) ANYWAY . . . lol - sorry about that. I did manage to get out about an hour before sunset and do a little bit more testing with some light nsa slugs I have kicking around here - some 20g and 23g's - both in .217. Between yesterdays test with the 18g pellets and the slugs today - so far it looks like this gun seems to come into it own in the lower 900's speed-wise. The 20g's as you'll see in the picture below could probably have been tightened up but it was starting to get dark, and again - windy and temps in the lower 40's - "good enough". ( it's squirrel, wood chuck accurate . . . ) The 23's on the other hand - they really came into their own when I got them up into the 921'ish range - I'm pretty happy with those.

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I'm hoping to get out tomorrow and test some more - and some heavier ones - we'll see. So far with the little bit of testing that I've been doing it's all short at just my 40 yd zero but I've found that if I can get decent results with "X" ammo at that distance then it'll usually hold up well out to 70-80 yards Some even 100 yards or more - but . . time and daylight have been my bigger challenges for the time being.


 
Maybe it doesn't like .218's??? :( :( So far - granted in limited testing to this point - the .217's are winning hands down. I've got a couple of sample pack NSA's inbound in .2175 that should be here in a day or two . . . and some .218's too. I'm losing faith in that size though (.218). We'll see how the .2175's do. @robr indicates that he had good luck with middle weight .217's over here. He measured the FX Hybrids at .2175 and I had really good luck with those. I want to find something "heavy" in the 27-30g range weight wise, find a good tune for it and then "put this baby to bed" - ie; never work on it again - just feed it air and ammo.

More to come . . .