compressor for air tanks

Do you feel lucky? Good luck with that. Even the $2000 Daystate LC110 good luck with that.

Go big or go home. Ask COOTERTWO.

Coltri MCH6 or Alkin at the bare minimum or a used Bauer JR2.

What makes you think the Yong Heng wouldn't cut it? There are lots of guys on here who top off their 96 cu ft tanks with Yong Heng's. If you were filling from zero in the tank, it would take a while. You'd probably need to knock it out in 3 sessions. But to go from say, 3300 psi to 4500 psi isn't an issue. Even on a tank that big.

But to address your original question, the answer is yes. The Omega is good. My buddy Dale (Varmint Knockers) owns one, and he seems to like it a lot.

I rolled the dice on the Yong Heng, currently working like a charm filling three guns and three bottles (we split the cost to try it). 

When it blows up, we are going to tear it apart and figure out what failed. We might build a better part and sell it for others. Or end up building a better unit with what we learn on this one. We definitely see the market for a US made compressor that doesn't stink, isn't slow, and is standalone (no additional compressor, or water cooling).

Bought my first yong heng in March, and I have topped off my 100 Omega tank (200bar to 300bar) 35 times as of today. I was paying the dive shop 10 bucks a fill, and driving 30 miles round trip. So the yong heng has already paid for itself. I also purchased the $140.00 coalescing filter and use the cheapo black cotton filter that comes with the Yong Heng, and the air is bone dry. If she blows, I would buy again.

Like another said, you'll probably only fill the tank from 0 - 4500 once. After that, as you charge you airguns with your tank, don't let the tank drop below 3000-3300 and you'll not be working your compressor to death. I have an Omega Air Charger 4500 psi Air Compressor and that's what I do.

https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/omega-compressors/

One year warranty for Omega. If there's 3 major failures needing to buy new ones in 5 years there's your $3300 Alkin (SHIPPED!) right there.

Rangur1, I have an Omega Air Charger and I love mine. They are user rebuildable, and while there's only a 1 year warranty, Todd from Raptor pneumatics supports the Omega compressors, and from what I hear, he is the man and knows his stuff. Mine works great, is very quiet and not overly complicated. Yo had a bad experience with Omega, so he'll keep telling people to go big or go home (or buy a walmart compressor with a 4 year warranty), but there's a lot of Omega owners who will tell you different. The Omega Air Charger can run 8 hours continuously, also, it fills my 18 cu ft CF bottle from 3200 - 4500 psi in 8 mins, not too bad at all. start it up under no load, and shut it down under no load, it's easy on the internals. Mine was $1250 delivered give or take a couple $$.. Southern Gunner has had his for 6 years and he said he lost count of how many hours it had after he had 500 hours on it. I put an hour meter on mine, took all of 10 mins.

Rangur1, I have an Omega Air Charger and I love mine. They are user rebuildable, and while there's only a 1 year warranty, Todd from Raptor pneumatics supports the Omega compressors, and from what I hear, he is the man and knows his stuff. Mine works great, is very quiet and not overly complicated. Yo had a bad experience with Omega, so he'll keep telling people to go big or go home (or buy a walmart compressor with a 4 year warranty), but there's a lot of Omega owners who will tell you different. The Omega Air Charger can run 8 hours continuously, also, it fills my 18 cu ft CF bottle from 3200 - 4500 psi in 8 mins, not too bad at all. start it up under no load, and shut it down under no load, it's easy on the internals. Mine was $1250 delivered give or take a couple $$.. Southern Gunner has had his for 6 years and he said he lost count of how many hours it had after he had 500 hours on it. I put an hour meter on mine, took all of 10 mins.

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I've heard the same about the Omega compressors. And many of the other touted "best compressors" when introduced have failed for people. I have used a Yong Heng for over two years topping off to 4400-4500 and it still works. Keep it cool and use quality HPA compressor lube and it can work well for a long time. The Yong Heng compressors have had their share of failures for sure but since many other "superior" compressors have failed as well, trying one doesn't seem like such a stretch IMO. Each persons situation will allow a different "best" solution to the problem of air.

well said bandg.

I wonder how many of the Yong Heng failures are due to operator error vs actual manufacturer defects/failures? I guess the bigger question is, how many guys would actually have the humility to own up and admit that they were the cause of breaking it? I will admit that I've broken my compressor several times. Always broken in the same spot. My compressor is a DAVV 2 stage compressor. The part that always breaks is the head of the aluminum piston where the brass rod with the teflon seals seats. It's for the 2nd (high pressure) stage of the compression process.

There was a gentleman who posted on here asking about the necessity for the holes in the piston head of the 2nd stage piston on his Air Venturi compressor. Well, on my compressor, there was 1 hole (see the other thread for the explanation of why the hole/s are there and necessary) and the hole was located about 1/4" from where the brass rod threaded through the piston head. So when I pushed the compressor to 4500 psi, or maybe a little higher, the down force on the brass rod would cause the piston head to crack, ALWAYS where the manufacturer had put the hole. And it always took 3-4 weeks to get a new one from China. So this is what I did to fix it.....

I ordered 4 pistons from Ali Express. The pistons were designed for the HP side of the compression stroke, so they had the hole in the middle for the brass rod to be threaded through. But they had no holes for the lubrication and release of pressure for that portion of the stroke (again, you'll have to read the other thread as to the functionality of the holes). I order 4 of them because I wanted spares if they ever broke again. But I drilled my own holes on my drill press. I mimicked the design of the Air Venturi 2nd stage piston, and I added 4 holes near the outer walls of the piston head since this would be the strongest point for this. Then I buttoned the compressor back up. Never had a problem since. 

But I guess the point I'm trying to make is in my case, I pushed the compressor too hard. But the piston also had a flawed design. The pistons are cast aluminum. If they milled the pistons from bar stock aluminum, they would be 5x's stronger. So if an American company wants to make a better part, then mill the pistons from bar stock aluminum on a lathe or CNR. That will make a HUGE difference.

Opinions are like butt holes. Everybody's got one. I have to agree with O'Doyle about one compressor brand. Omega compressors are cute looking with nice bells and whistles but they are essentially a motorized hand pump in a box. They have one huge design weakness in using rubber o-rings as pressure seals. Omegas are nice when they work, but once those o-rings get tired and start leaking, they are brain surgery to replace. Don't take anyone's word for it, watch the 30 minute rebuild on Youtube posted by Airguns of Arizona. I'm mechanically competent but I'd hate to remember all of the steps you must take just to reach those o-rings. Omegas also contain lots of electrical wiring and components. It's overly complicated and costs a bundle to ship if you can't fix it yourself.

The new Tuxing compressor that can be shipped from a U.S. location for approximately $1,000 looks like a winner. It has lots of filtering upgrades compared to the Air Venturi or Hatsan models that it competes with. It is not as difficult to repair and should last longer and fill your tanks much faster than an Omega $2,000 Turbocharger. 

Here's a link to the Tuxing: 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001515056880.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.2.601828f6zdg0Cu  

The 110V model from the U.S. shipper is the one to get. $971.10 + 31.58 shipping.

It will last much longer if you use quality compressor oil. Filtertechs.com sells Secolube 500, which is the same as Anderol 750. It is a premium oil at $59 a gallon which will last you for years worth of oil changes and save on repairs from using inferior lubricant.

Humdinger

"Opinions are like butt holes. Everybody's got one."

Agree totally. And yours are just as valid as any others.

Right I agree everyone has an opinion. BUT some are more educated informed experienced and there fore worth more to you. How do you determine whose opinion is worth listening too.. READ THE INFORMATION POSTED and then make up your own mind. It's all there for you take a day and read it and then YOUR opinion might actually be worth something.

Here is the problem with the money. Guys repeatedly say they can't afford to spend the the $2200 to $3200 for a compressor and WE GET that. What we are suggesting that it might not make sense to spend $1000 or $1500 on the mid level compressors. Some say it is as well. What those without compressors need to do is to read the information and decide what makes sense to them.

Im in the camp buy the Alkin or buy the YH. That's my opinion base on may personal experience and following along with what other experiences have been.

IF you are certain the omega can be repaired easily and inexpensively and IF you can and are willing to do it then it might be worthwhile.

I do not agree with the thought of not letting the tank fall below 3000 psi to reduce the load on the compressor. The very hardest job ANY compressor has is the push from 4000 psi to 4500 psi. I killed my Daystate 110 topping off from 4000 to 4500 routinely and had I filled from 3000 to 3500 I'd probably still be using it. That and changing oil often and running a warm up and cool doing cycle. If you learn anything from this learn that pushing the compressor to 45000 is what "hurts" them. The YH is cheap and easy enough to fix apparently and if you keep it cool running ice water you probably will do OK. I'm with Hummdigger and Odoyle on this.

Having said all that my Daystate was rebuilt and I sold it to a friend who has as far as I know been entirely satisfied with it. For what it's worth. 

IMO this entire consumer grade HPA world is new enough that few if any have "educated informed experience". Some have tried certain types and had bad luck. Others have tried the same types and had good luck. You can read it here at any time. Who is correct? Hard to know, no matter what you read. I agree generally with the above on the price issue-if one isn't going to buy a "dive" compressor then it seems buying a Yong Heng is a good alternative. But many simply do not want to deal with the Yong Heng "inconvenience" (external water and filtration among others) and are willing to go to the mid range types and can afford it. More power to them and it seems to be a perfectly viable decision. It's not what I have done. I used a Yong Heng for over 2 years and then purchased an MCH6. The Yong Heng is still functioning perfectly filling my very large tank from 3000 to 4500 when asked to do so and that is how I filled the tank the entire time-around 3000 to 4500. I always did and still do use ice in the cooling water for the Yong Heng along with a later added external ducted fan to increase cooling which I believe helps as much as anything. Others say that such additional cooling is not necessary. Who can know for certain who is correct? And while I agree that higher pressure means higher load, how does one know exactly what "killed" a compressor? Such is an opinion and may well be correct. But such may also be incorrect. It has certainly been incorrect for the length of time my Yong Heng has been in use and how I used it.

As to the Omega-to me it does seem expensive for what it is but many have claimed excellent service from them. I considered one strongly before I bought the MCH6 because of its very useful features and the fact that I thought it would work well inside the home in a better climate controlled situation. Cant use many of the "dive" compressors in such a situation. Some say the rebuild is very difficult and others have said it isn't particularly hard. I don't know because I don't own one and haven't rebuilt one.

One thing I certainly agree with-read all you can before making any purchase in this sector and try to make the best decision for yourself. I don't believe that any individual can tell any other individual what that best decision would be.

. Certainly those of us who have been at this a while and who have owned several different compressors deserve a little more consideration with regard to our opinions I've spent enough money on this that I should at least have received an honorary degree in COMPRESSOROLOGY. LOL

. Certainly those of us who have been at this a while and who have owned several different compressors deserve a little more consideration with regard to our opinions I've spent enough money on this that I should at least have received an honorary degree in COMPRESSOROLOGY. LOL

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I agree in general and to a degree. The problem seems to be that the bad specific experience of any one person is often matched by others who have had excellent service with the same type unit. Simply read the other Omega thread near this one to note that. Like so many things, all relative to the individual.

You and I agree bandg. It's one side or the other of the same coin. I very well could be wrong and I very well may change my tune in a year or so. BUT I do have more experience then the vast majority on this subject. As does O'doyl and Centercut and humdinger to name a few. A good example is right now there are two threads on the new TUX compressor. Pretty different experiences. The real problem is a lot of these people want to be spoon feed the information and don't seem to want to read what is already there. And I get that too. Sorting thru this stuff when it get off track like it is right now is challenging. My goal is to help guys NOT spend the fortune I've spent. So right or wrong my not so humble opinion is being expressed at least for the right reasons.