HW 110
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I also have the long version of the 110 ST in .22.I do love mine.Out the box it was shooting JSB 18.13s at about 850ish,now after a few tins of pellets it’s slowed down to a consistent 800ish.As long as it stays there I’ll still love it,but if it drops any more I’ll probably send it back.BUT...it’s well built and ACCURATE so I can handle the slight loss in energy and from looking at the reviews 800ish fps seems more normal anyway.Can hit a cowbell or a frying pan at 123 yards consistently too.
This is because the hw110 hammer adjustment doesn't have a locking grub screw like the hw100 does. Yours has likely slowly shifted with over many shots.
If you are happy and your gun is staying stable and accurate then no worries. Otherwise go in and adjust it back up and put a little bit of thread locker onto it to keep it there.
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Regarding the similarity between the guns they are superficially similar in some ways but very different in construction.
The hw100 is modular and much easier to work on, with pretty much all steel construction, so very very robust.
The hw110 is a single outer plastic/polymer shell with numerous small metal components inside. The quality of construction interally is fine but not anything like the hw100.
The triggers are similar in feel but not design. I think the hw100 trigger is better overall. The hw100 trigger group is also entirely removable and can be set up entirely to preference while off of the gun, which makes things much easier and potentially safer.
The side lever on the hw100 is smoother, at least on my examples and the magazines on the Hw100 are higher capacity, much smoother to insert and lack the sandpapery rough anodizing of the hw110 mags.
The cylinder on the hw100 is removable, so fixing a leak down the road is easier and degassing is a non issue. You can also buy spares for the field if that's your thing.
Power output is no different, so just about the only advantages the 110 has to my knowledge are weight and a relatively small decrease in price
The hw100 is modular and much easier to work on, with pretty much all steel construction, so very very robust.
The hw110 is a single outer plastic/polymer shell with numerous small metal components inside. The quality of construction interally is fine but not anything like the hw100.
The triggers are similar in feel but not design. I think the hw100 trigger is better overall. The hw100 trigger group is also entirely removable and can be set up entirely to preference while off of the gun, which makes things much easier and potentially safer.
The side lever on the hw100 is smoother, at least on my examples and the magazines on the Hw100 are higher capacity, much smoother to insert and lack the sandpapery rough anodizing of the hw110 mags.
The cylinder on the hw100 is removable, so fixing a leak down the road is easier and degassing is a non issue. You can also buy spares for the field if that's your thing.
Power output is no different, so just about the only advantages the 110 has to my knowledge are weight and a relatively small decrease in price
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For me it's the "newness" and design-looks of the 110 that got me hooked and for some reason I just Like their triggers better straight out of their boxes and noticed they were quieter (to my ears) at the same power levels using the same LDCs and very oddly they seem to get more shots at the same power level given similar size air cylinders too. I seem to only get 90-100 shots from one of my 177 12fpe HW100s while my 12fpe 110 gets 120-130 shots given similar air cylinder volume starting from 3000psi. I still don't like the metal scope rings and bubble level biting into the plastic Picatinny 110 scope rails though.
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Thanks for this information. I bought the older HW100 because I knew it was a proven design with certain features I wanted, among those you described. Having confidence in Weihrauch, I assumed the HW110 is also a good rifle, but I had no experience with it, nor enough review information to influence me to buy it rather than the HW100. I probably won't tote it 10 miles through the woods, but its weight is the only potential issue I can mention, and that's only in a hunting situation. The carbine version, although heavy, is very well balanced for me (subjective I know), and feels just right when shooting from certain positions, or using shooting sticks. Yes, power and shot count are not strong points, but both are adequate for my uses. Since Americans tend to want our air rifles powerful and with lots of adjustable bells and whistles, the HW is probably lagging in the market here. But, those preferences result in our missing out on some excellent air rifles. Simple, robust, dependable, not bad features when added to its accuracy.
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I was deciding between the two a few months ago myself. For many reasons that have mostly been offered already, I went with the full length HW100 with thumbhole stock in .177. I couldn’t be happier. I did need to adjust the reg and hs back because it was shooting too fast.
A lot of new guns have tons of adjustability, similar to my Brocock Sniper. That’s all fine and dandy, but sometimes it’s hard to keep track of what pellet shoots at what velocity and what are the hold overs for that particular setup. One of the great things about my HW100 is that I set it up to shoot one pellet at a certain velocity and never worry about it again. For me it was the Air Arms 10.34 at 890 fps. With the long air tube, I get 7 full mags, 84 shots, on reg and fantastic accuracy. I’ve only owned and worked on about 8 or 9 pcp airguns, but it is hands down the best engineered and made of the bunch. I’m sure you would be happy with either the 110 or 100. For me the all metal, tried and true 100 was worth the extra $100.
A lot of new guns have tons of adjustability, similar to my Brocock Sniper. That’s all fine and dandy, but sometimes it’s hard to keep track of what pellet shoots at what velocity and what are the hold overs for that particular setup. One of the great things about my HW100 is that I set it up to shoot one pellet at a certain velocity and never worry about it again. For me it was the Air Arms 10.34 at 890 fps. With the long air tube, I get 7 full mags, 84 shots, on reg and fantastic accuracy. I’ve only owned and worked on about 8 or 9 pcp airguns, but it is hands down the best engineered and made of the bunch. I’m sure you would be happy with either the 110 or 100. For me the all metal, tried and true 100 was worth the extra $100.
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I have been really looking at getting a 110 or a dreamline. The 110 seems like a better choice for someone like myself that likes to be able take a rifle out the box and shoot. From what I have read the 110 will shoot great right out of the box. I don’t like to have to make a lot of adjustments.
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What is the fpe of the carbine version looks lighter how is the bonded moderator is it quiet?
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Is the 100 regulated like the 110? Looking at the descriptions for the 100 there is no mention of a regulator.
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The HW110s seem to be the QUIETEST (mechanical) PCPs straight out of the box. Daystate ELECTRONIC guns are THE!!! MOUSEFART! KINGS BAR NONE!!! My 12fpe 177 HW110s are nearly MOUSEFART QUIET! About half as quiet as a 177 Benjamin Marauder. Maybe even quieter than that...the others are not too shabby as well...
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Need to sell my .22 customer shop Marauder before I can make the jump. After shooting another side lever the marauder just doesn’t do it for me anymore. Now just to decide 100, 110 or dreamline. Decisions, decisions!!!
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Get the HW 11o red trucker I think I'm going to go the same but I'm going to get the carbine version make the hunt more pleasureable
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I don’t hunt anymore. I just shoot in the back yard or the local gun range. At the local range I can stretch it out to 100 yards. At home I’m limited to about 50 yards. I want a side lever regulated rifle. Accuracy and shot count are more important than power to me.
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