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New manufacturers PCP airgun pricing trend...

Seems like about 10+ years ago only a few major manufacturers ruled the PCP market, especially at the high-end. Since then it was nice to see some smaller unknown ones enter the market and make a name for themselves by quality or innovative design changes and proven performance in competition. They had smaller production numbers on the market but were able to gradually move up their prices comparable with the big boys' guns due to a growing devoted following base.

But in the last couple of years I see unknown and unproven "manufacturers" with a web-distributor presence only, with no actual manufacturer shop details disclosed, etc. putting products on the market that are near the same price as the high-end big boys products. What makes you want to buy a little known "company's" $1500-$2800 PCP that is priced only $200 below the big boys? Word of mouth reputation here on the airgun forums? Special personal insight?

SOLD scope for sale (price dropped)

-Cabela’s Multu-Turret Rimfire 3-9x40 .22LR, standard rifle reticle, came off an FX impact, light use, comes as seen- $70
(Please forgive the bugbuster also in the picture, it was previously attached to this thread as well but has since been sold)

All is price +ship but can be negotiated depending

Can contact me, [email protected] to discuss



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NLA [WTB] Field Target Rifle

Let me try this again and see if anything happens this time.

I am looking for something with a little more power than the Anschutz 8002 S2 that I have sitting in my safe. I thought the short range would be fun, but there really isn't anyone shooting them here in my area. So looking at moving it down the line and getting myself something else. The rifle has quite a few upgrades and additions to it. I received the rifle from the shooting coach down at the University of Mississippi. Gun has two cylinders and of course is a tack driver. The gun has been used of course and it does show some wear, but nothing extreme. The previous coach left the rifle set up for the previous shooter with all the lead weights installed to help balance the rifle.

Just looking what is out there and seeing if there is anyone that is looking at moving from the WFTF side of things to 10m.

Just a shot
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SOLD Selling FX 480cc bottle that I got from FX…practically new

So I had a bottle that I couldn’t do an o-ring swap on…I sent it to my friend to take it the valve off…he couldn’t. So he sent it to FX and even they couldn’t take the valve off. They sent him another bottle they had on hand so you can consider it brand new. $225 shipped…this was sent to my friends’ house (Brawler1588) so he will be shipping it and not me.
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SOLD WTS- Crosman 1720T .177 Pistol with Optisan scope

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WTS Crosman 1720T pistol with Optisan Mamba 3-12 scope setup for Pistol Field Target. Transfer port enlarged to up power to 11 foot lbs. Excellent condition, used only a few times for competition. I am no longer shooting that class, got old. $300 by PayPal to [email protected] with free shipping to Conus. Feel free to contact me for more info.
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The history of FT rules?

So with all the discussions about combining classes or adding classes, I realized I need to know more insights about the history of the current rules and classes. I read the book “Airgun Field Target Shooting” by Les Herridge and Ian Law, 1989. Granted PCP’s were discussed as the ‘future of airguns’, but there were no bipods, buckets or harnesses then. Nearly every shooter uses a sling, and looks like they are either prone, sitting, kneeling or standing, kinda like how I was taught to shoot as a kid with a chimpmunk 22. So how did that sport of FT turn into what it is today, rules and class wise? What was wrong with the way it was with a simplistic ruleset? Seems to me the FT I read about is much more of a challenge than any of the classes now. So when i mentioned a Purist class in another thread this is what i meant, going back to the original rules where it was more like actual hunting or 3 Position shooting. (Not the topic of this post, but wanted to mention it for clarity)

So for the FT shooters that have stood the tides of change, what really prompted the rules to become what they are? How did we go from a sling and a knee to bipods, harnesses, etc? I guess one could argue that equipment changed the sport and thus rules followed, but i would only agree to a point, harnesses and seats and sticks had to have more reason than the rifles are more accurate or the scopes are better. I also understand physical limitations, but that doesnt apply to all the rules and classes either. So whats the backstory on the FT rules? Im not complaining about any rules in FT, just trying to understand how they came about.

My opinion for first PCP (FOR YOU).

Are you looking/considering getting into PCP airguns? Here is one members opinion as I've had quite a few and shot them a lot since 2004. If you have deep pockets and want to jump all in with the top PCP brands/models fine, however if you are a bit more cautious, say you want top tier accuracy, performance, good trigger, nice looking, proven performer for years...easy to fill, AT A MORE REASONABLE PRICE POINT, read on. I did a test of all my PCPs I owned at the time (first 5 shots of the day with each) one after another...including Taipan Veteran .22, a Daystate Wolverine r .177, an FX Streamline. 22, a Theoben Rapid 12
20, an FX Bobcat Mk2 .25, and last but most notable, two Daystate Huntsman Regals one a regulated .20 and and a NONREGULATED .177. Although it was close the unregulated Huntsman won...a third hand Huntsman I got in a trade, BY FAR THE LEAST AMOUNT OF MONEY IN IT, went toe to toe and held it's own against those other examples. This Huntsman has EARNED my admiration over three years and about 15 tins of pellets (shot it yesterday) with ZERO ISSUES! Performance and reliability not withstanding...consider lighter weight, nice looking wood stock, been around for years, EASY TO FILL with a hand pump (I love this) tunned to about 15fpe 90 shots are possible, getting almost one shot per pump with a Hill Mk4 from 200b to 100b. I like the older bolt actions but a Revere side action would be OK too...nonreg. Another plus they are available used more often available than not...not CHEAP but not 1500 to 2000 either, good used one are way under a grand. I never had an inaccurate or a problematic PCP...but I prefere the Huntamans AND at a slightly higher price point the Taipan Vetetan (a man among men IMHO) nice used ones available quite often also. If I was starting new to PCPs these two would my choices...both are just OUTSTANDING...at around 800. bucks a Huntsman is hard to beat by anything! Both my Huntsmans and Veteran were used. Pictured is my Huntsman & Hill mk4 after a shooting session yesterday...this setup COULD NOT HAVE BEEN USED HARDER the last 3 years, the pump requires cleaning and lubeing periodically way more trouble than the gun. This setup is the perfect intro PCP IMHO!
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Uragan 2 .30 review

I just saw the review of the uragan 2 .30 in carbon fiber.. what a beauty of a gun ... but the reviewer man that guy really sucks .. all you hear is I have not tune the gun this is a review therefore the gun is not turned to their best .. the gun gives the show of a lifetime with a standard div- of 1 .. an he still managed to do a awful review showing the wrong pellets.. I he had taken the time to see what worked before he made that review..it would had been way different ending.. I really don't know why the same dealer send him a gun to review , again

Having fun trying to improve my shooting

So I finally moved to a place where I can shoot outdoors. I am really excited to get a chance to develop my own shooting skills and to more meaningfully work on finding the perfect projectiles and tunes for my guns.

I’ve been doing some off hand shooting with a 9 mm Rex P using iron peep sights. Took me a while to get it set up… I started at what seemed like a reasonable distance, about 35 m with a large target (8” gong)

At that range, the front post on the peep sight basically covers most of the gong and the post is a little blurry with my eyesight (too close to my eyes) so to some degree it’s hard to tell when to pull the trigger. A very different feeling from putting the center of a crosshair on the center of a bull’s-eye.

I’ve been able to get the gun zeroed enough to consistently hit the gong so I sketched a smaller target (traced electrical tape roll) and shot nine .360 round balls at it. The first shot was dead on by freak chance, and the photo shows where the following shots landed.

Between my unsteadiness, poor vision, lack of practice and the somewhat blurry looking front post, I was surprised the shots weren’t more scattered. This is probably an awful group, but it’s a step up for me. Looking forward to trying to improve on this. I mean issue is that “aiming for the center” is weird when the front sight / post is a bit blurry and larger than the target.

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NLA Taurus LR .357

Taurus LR 357 Built by Varadium Air.
This 357 is pure insanity. just under 400fpe. I Blast golf balls and chicken eggs at 200 yard with no effort. Super accurate. Custom tensioned barrel, custom tuned muzzle brake, valving, whole 9 yards. There realy isn't another 357 that can compare. Also come with a variety of slugs. Mr hollowpoint 167 and 185 and 207, krs 120, pro slug 166 and 171. and a couple boxes a nossler and benjaminflat nose which are Meh. they shoot good but nothing comparedto the premium slugs listed. so around $800+ in ammo.all shoot exceptional. has Element Helix 6x24 Moa ffp with fx no limit rings on it and utg bipod. selling as a package as I have my eyes on something.
Asking $3,000 Plus shipping. add it up. it's a value at that price. for any further info or pictures call or text 413-834-1925. for

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"Edgun Leaky" Rifles DOA Out of the Box

I am a former Marine and familiar with firearms, but new to airguns. I run a pest control business and bought some airguns to dispatch groundhogs and other pests. We gathered what we thought was reliable advice, and purchased three Edgun Leshiy 2 and one Lelya 2 from an outfit called "Edgun West".

Two of the four brand new Edguns arrived DOA, i.e., not holding air at all. Wouldn't take a charge.

This is probably a simple matter of O-rings, but we have no interest in working on these two DOA rifles, and neither does Edgun West. In fact, when I reported the problems to Brian Meckler himself, the response we received was a link to Edgun West's "Terms and Conditions".

I have contacted most of the larger airgun businesses in the U.S., in search of someone who can get the two rifles up and running. Most of the responses have been a read-between-the-lines slam of Edgun West, and they just aren't interested in working on that brand of rifle.

Interested in hearing any advice you may have. Again, we aren't interested in being rifle techs, beyond keeping them clean, filled, and lubricated.

P.S. We subsequently purchased some FX Crown Continuum and Brocock Sniper XR rifles, and our shooters never opt to take the two functioning Edguns on calls.

Offhand accuracy

I've been shooting a bunch with my Matador and the accuracy has been impressive at about 23 yards when resting on a perch (size of my yard). One thing I have noticed, however, is how hard it is to shoot offhand. My best guess is it is the weight and it's balance being toward the barrel since my scope is mounted pretty far forward so I get proper eye relief. Anyone else experience this? When I shot as a kid, air rifles weren't nearly as high quality but also heavy as these so offhand with iron sights was easy.

48 hours with the Ranger XR in 22 cal

Tuesday i received the Ranger XR, minus the grub screw for the trigger blade to keep from moving on the trigger post, but AOA is taking care of me by sending out a grub screw priority mail.

However, I can still use the gun and I have been looking at some shot to shot consistency and how many actual shots I can get fro a charge within the “optimal” shot curve. AOA says up to 20 shots, well yup it is 20 in the rated range from a full charge, maybe 22 before the FPS of the pellets starts to dive.

Pellets I have been toying with between Zoom work meeting today are as follows:
  1. JSB Jumbo Heavy
  2. JSB Hades
  3. H&N 18s
  4. Crossman Premier HP
I have been mostly concerned about shot to shot consistency in FPS for the optimal power band. I have 8-9 yards to use for my endeavor. I mounted a Athlon scope, the one that was on my Ranger XR in 177, which will then move to the Prophet II comes later in the year. Anyways, for now it works great, though yes big for the platform.

I tapped in the pellets so they were snug. I am not factoring which one the gun likes most, i can determine that with 9 yards, this will come Saturday.

Also, my Accushot Atlas bipod showed up, the knock off is now forgotten. Anyone want a free bipod? You only pay shipping PM if interested. (Yes to me I notice a difference).

So here is my findings: Power range hovered in the 15 FPE for the Crossman and 16-17 FPE for the JSB and H&N pellets.

The JSB Jumbo Heavies were the most consistent with STD for 20 3.7 FPS. Hades and 18s 5-6 ish FPS and Crossman a STD 12 FPS. Will this match up on the target grouping Saturday, NO IDEA. I am praying the gun likes the hades because I like using them so much in the field.

The ranger with its new digs. Also, can’t remember but I swear the cocking handle on 22 ranger is longer than the 177 ranger. It is super nice too having the length.

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SOLD WTS FX Wildcat Mk2 30cal 700mm Sniper ( Price Reduced )

FX Wildcat Mk2 30cal 700mm Sniper with smooth twist X barrel ..Shoots Absolutely Mint . It's shooting JSB 44.75 880-885. Has a Real nice stock on it, Dovetail to Picotini Rail adapter goes with the gun. 2 mags and fill probe. Gun is Mint. Shoots Mint. I'm Asking $850 Plus shipping
So feel free to Make a cash offer .call or text me at 413-834-1925. thank you can send more pics or information as needed

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Rekord Trigger Frustration

Hello, I am new to the forum. I recently purchased a Beeman R7 . It has about 500 rounds through it. Most of the time the trigger will have the slight bit of creep before let off but sometimes there is no creep and then it lets off somewhat unexpectedly. I prefer the creep beforehand and I notice when I am shooting groups that if there are a couple of shots in the group without the creep my groups seem to open up, maybe due to the element of surprise. I used to own an R9 built in the early 2000's and I don't recall ever having any issues with it's trigger. Does my R7 have the same trigger in it or has something changed over the years? Or am I possibly expecting too much out of a $400 airgun? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Help. Not sure what to do at this point.

Weihrauch wrote me back and said the HW100BP is still in production however AOA and Krale (Anne) tell me they are not restocking the gun or taking preorders.
I found it in stock at other UK stores but none of them are willing to ship stuff to the US.
Any help on whats going on or how to get one much appreciated.
Thanks

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