Trying the Aea 50gr at 100y out of a Thomas.

Been asked for a long time to make a 30 caliber gun for 100y. The JSB 30s were never anything to shout about. These are really easy to keep near the middle.

25 shots each.

Mike

Getting ready for my first FT match here soon and had a few questions.

Are the forced position lanes for hunter class too?

Do I need to be an AAFTA member?

Anything you’d recommend I bring other than the obvious (Gun, pellets, sticks, etc)?

Thanks in advance

FX Maverick Compact 30 cal
Regs 160/145
Power Wheel 6

The attached pictures were 859 fps AEA 45 gr pellets @ 40 yds, 5 shot groups. When I speak of POI shift, I'm not talking about shots being randomly scattered. I'm speaking about these groups as a whole shifting randomly and needing to rezero for this (see pics). In my case, my gun came shooting 840 fps and every once in awhile I would need to adjust the scope a couple of clicks and it was good for awhile. To be honest, I thought it was the cheap scope I had. Once I got a chrono, I started adjusting reg pressures for faster fps. After increasing speeds I needed to rezero much more often, just about every day. I replaced the scope, same issues. Then I started looking into this further and discovered other people were having the same problem. I pulled my barrel liner and it had 2 orings. I ordered additional orings from Utah Airguns and the cf sleeve. I put the cf sleeve on and lost my tight groups. I did not epoxy it, and it felt a little loose, not a tight play free fit. At that point I wasn't ready to glue my liner in, so I went back to the orings. I ended up using 10 orings evenly spaced with a double in the middle, using Teflon tape beside them to help keep them in place. Same result, good for a couple days and then off 1/2". I couldn't find a solution on the internet so I decided i needed to rethink this. Something has to be moving, but what.

Here's my theory I came up with. In a perfect world a perfectly straight barrel would be ideal. In this system the liner is between the jamb nut and the block. When tightening that jamb nut, if the distance between where the liner touches it and the block is less than the length of the liner by even a mm the liner has to arc. Under tension with an arc in it is force that could cause it to rotate slightly, or arc in the opposite direction. Either of these would change the poi. My jamb nut was fairly snug but not too tight. I loosened it to what I would describe as 1/4 snug. Finger tight then just barely tightened with a wrench.

It's only been a week now but it is shooting like a laser and I have had no need to rezero. I think the 10 orings is probably overkill, but i would use at least 3 or 4. I also think the cf liner may work if epoxied. I hope this helps someone, i know i spent countless hours trying to figure it out.

Full disclosure, I am not a certified technician, just a hillbilly striving for perfection.

Hi all. does anyone know if STO is still active? I place an order that showed in stock and received a message that the order was placed, but it’s now been a few days and it is still showing that it’s awaiting fulfillment. Was just wondering if anyone has gotten anything from them lately?

For sale is a buddy tank valve with bleeder block item is as pictured. Has all new seals, however it needs a new main valve costs $25 to buy.
Selling for $75 obo Paypal includes shipping CONUS

Hello shooter’s, anybody else dealing with Parkinson’s ?
Can’t seem to be able to hold still, getting excited makes it worse, dang-it .

Thanks Lester

Anyway I guess I have WTB listing in the classified section and then one of the members on here contacted me telling they have what I am looking for. So any we proceeding in contacting each other and so forth and he gave me his price and I agreed but when it came to the form of payment I wanted to use PayPal goods and services cause I am not willing to just send money to a complete stranger than has next to no history on here and hasn't been on airgun nation for even a month. The seller refused using all sorts of excuses which just raised red flags so in the end I just said if it's not through PayPal goods and services I have no interest and I haven't been contacted again since. Did I do it wrong or overreacted? Just curious on how you people deal with purchasing from a somewhat new member with almost no background so that your covered if you're scammed.

I was reading the WFTF and AAFTA rules regarding chronograph use. It states that you need to chrono your rifle during training/sight-in day and daily chrono during the match.

What happens if you suspect a gun failure during the match and you want to chrono your rifle but you are nowhere near the official chrono station?

For example You have missed the last 4 (easy) targets. Are you allowed to use your own chrono when it's your turn to shoot? and does that count as part of your total time on that lane?

I know some of the PCP have built in chrono. and it would be as easy as looking at the LCD screen to get your velocity. But what happens if you are shooting a springer?

At the risk of subjecting myself to some scolding for even considering such a thing, I have a 18 year old AIr Hog 68 cu ft bottle that I am reticent to throw out just because it is outdated. The carbon fiber on the outside is pristine, no dents or cuts. Endoscopic examination of the bottle's aluminum interior shows shiny aluminum with no corrosion or pits. Obviously, I have no idea if there is galvanic corrosion at the interface between the inner aluminum bottle and the carbon fiber wrap. The SCUBA or "safety store" will not even look at it because it is out of date. They would be happy to sell me a new replacement.

Would you use it and enjoy it or toss it and replace it?

Mike

For sale is a slightly used Edgun Eazy Fill quick fill trigger as pictured works fine.
$100 Paypal includes shipping CONUS

I don't have any PCP moderators, really don't need them where I live, and my Taipan Veteran Compact, I feel is quiet enough (though even quieter may help for my hunting). I am curious as to whether adding a moderator on your PCP's has resulted in an increase in accuracy, or Not?

I've got three different suppressors for my .22 rimfire rifles. I've shot them with and without, there is no consistent clear advantage/disadvantage accuracy wise. Some guns/loads may shoot a barely measurable bit better or worse, no one gun or suppressor makes a significant improvement. Overall I would say they tend to shoot a little better suppressed... and I assume this is probably due to the weight of the suppressor affecting the barrel harmonics. Just to be clear there is a definite change in point of impact due to the suppressor weight (mine run 5, 8 & 9 ounces)... a larger change in POI on lighter barrels (of course).

But I wonder about PCP's... Since we're talking about a blast of air coming out the barrel, a much lighter projectile, and it seems the pellet skirt may be more susceptible to any air turbulence than a solid base.

So, those that have added a moderator on their PCP's, have you had a noticeable increase in accuracy? Or Not

Thanks,

Jerry

I have panthera. 700 with 600mm barrel. At 150bar my fps drop Like hammer is not opening the valve. I have 26 gram hammer,and blue tuning spring. I tried 20gram hammer with oem spring,and tried 13 gram hammer. At 150 bar my gun shoots 60gr atp slugs 888,but if I try to go up on reg it slows down. Spring tension maxed. Why will my valve not open past 150 bar? Done exact same with all weights and springs ,past 150 for some reason fps drop like 100fps,but as tank pressures decrease the fps raise up 5 to 7 fps a shot, any ideas or if you know why please let me know. The slugs um shooting seem to shoot better faster. The 49.5 gr atp slugs cut a hole at 100 yards at 974 fps. Also my first shot seem slow most time after sitting a while.

Up for sale is a very nice atman 25 cal compact bullpup. It shoots the aea 25 grain and 29 grain Aea pellets very well. I have factory box , donnyfl adapter for ldc and mags. I will add photos tonight . $750 pp you pay fee ...no scope and I have the thread protector not in pic

I had some lumber lying around from other projects and built a “Stealthy “ Target stand. “Box actually”. It blocks visibility of the target from the sides. The target is just a piece of cardboard and can be dressed up however you want. Pizza boxes came to mind when I built it. They slip right into place and it is very easy to switch the cardboard. One actually has to come into My yard to see what it is. What other ways of disguising a target do you use? Here are a couple pics.
There is nothing in the back of it, only a piece of cardboard. I can use pieces of cardboard up to 20 inches wide. This one is 30 inches deep. 🫸Just thought I would share.

Hello everyone

I've been reading for a while and have learned a lot from you. So, I'm writing to you from beautiful Austria, and like most people here, I come from the firearms sector. Unfortunately, reloading in Europe has pretty much hit the wall. People just avoid things instead of buying the products of their choice. So last year, while on vacation, the virus got the better of me and I bought a Diana 54 Airking Pro in .177. I was amazed at the accuracy at 50m. The vacation was over, but the virus remained. I tried an FX Wildcat MK 3. But without a bottle. The sniper version with the tube reservoir. Well, I didn't shoot with it for long, but I fell in love with the package, and I bought an Agt Uragan 2, which made life difficult for me with its leaks. Luckily, I had a Hills compressor by now. To cope with the frustration, I had to get an FX Maverik in .22. The tuning measures took what felt like weeks, if not months. It put up with everything. No air loss like with the Uragan 2. Nothing. And I wouldn't have held it against him given the procedure. I probably won't be able to get rid of the virus anytime soon

Thomas

Hi, i am new in this forum. I am not en expert when it comes to Airguns. Had some AIR rifles in the past (Evanix sniper cal 35, AEA Terminator cal 35, Hatsan bullbos 25) but sold whole collection some years ago due to financial issues. I now have the change to pick-up my old hobby again and would like to buy a good quality and powerful AIR rifle.
I live in Europe and by coincidence come across a brand i had never heard of.. Jefferson State Air Rifles. I could find only 1 single dealer selling these in the whole of Europe.
So i am wondering if anybody has experience whith this brand ? I am tempted to buy the Raptor in cal 30 or 35.
Is anybody able to give me advise to go for it or not ? My other choice is FX Dynamic but the latter is a whole lot more expensive....

1979 with beeman markings worth these days?

hello,
sucks this has to be my first post here but here goes.
i purchased a umarex notos a couple weeks ago and have had nothing but problems with it.

first off the fill probe was missing a o ring and after being told false information from an airgun depot customer service agent where i purchased it, that i could simply go to ace hardware and get a replacement NOT i wasted a few days going to different ace stores looking for one with no luck.

so then i called umarex usa and was told that the orings are proprietary and i wont find one unless from them which they were out of stock.
but they did have a probe they could send me which they did.

today 7 days later i received the probe which works fine filling the gun but as soon as i let pressure off my compressor or remove the probe the air just leaks out of the same end the probe goes into.

so a quick call to umarex customer service a agent to me to check a screw in the pressure chamber cant remember the name but he told me the location, and the screw was tight and it still does the same thing.

im pretty sure the gun is going back to airgun depot tomorrow but in the meantime does anyone have any suggestions on what to check before i send it back.

thanks for any suggestions.

I've been chasing the slug gun for a while now. Never was happy with the fx stuff, despite it having a lot of potential.
After finding sweet love with the gk1, I talked to Kelly and swapped my older synthetic k1 for a new 2024 k1 limited in .22, to sort of match the gk1. I was really hoping the excellent experience I had with the gk1 and slugs would translate to the newer k1.

Well, it was a bit of a journey too - what we found was the newer k1's are liking MUCH higher reg pressure and power wheel clicks to produce power - but it still does! We also swapped the magazine for a 2018 12 groove model to match the barrel grooves (the new mags are apparently 6 groove).

After all that, and a few shots to help settle it in, I have it shooting pretty well! Shot it at 50, 75, and 100 yards, hitting steel on almost every shot. Below is a 5 shot group from 50 yards, and a shot of the siblings hanging out together!
Reg pressure: 170 bar
power wheel: 29 clicks
ammo: AVS 36gr flat base slugs
velocity: 900fps
fill pressure: 350bar
shots per fill: 3 mags (57 shots)

My Weihrauch springers all favored the H&N FTT 5.53 pellets. Now that they have gone to new homes, I have four tins of 500 each and one tin with approx 475 available.

$55 shipped within the continental US. PayPal F&F.

Thanks for looking.

DZ

I took months to research all the options. My initial thoughts were there was no way I would spend more than a few hundred dollars on an airgun, no matter if it's a PCP or a springer. As I read more and more, the motto buy once cry once became more evident. I narrowed down my choices and ultimately decided on the Brocock Sahara XR. A few reasons for my decision: excellent shot count, excellent reputation of a no fuss PCP, excellent deal at AOA, external regulator adjustment, power wheel adjustment, picatinny rails for scope and bipod included, excellent barrel, and lastly, a unique color .

I also researched moderators and landed on an STO Sarissa. Not knowing what to expect from this combination, I mounted the scope, screwed on the moderator and proceeded to get a rudimentary zero. AOA sent the Sahara with a little under 240 bar, which was nice so I could play around with it.

Being worried about the first shot POI due to being in my backyard, I decided to zero at 15 yards into a huge box with a bag of soil as a backstop. I used the JBS 18.13gr as this was what AOA used to test the rifle. First shot low, but on the box. Using the hole as my new POA, I shot 5 more.


OK, that's awesome. Now to try 10 shots at 30 yards.
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This thing is a sweet shooter! Next order of business was to try different pellets and get some chronograph data.



After realizing how sweet of an airgun this is and wondering why I hadn't got into this way sooner, I shot more groups and did one dot drill.


I decided to try the JTS 18.1 gr again bc they gave me the best results when testing a few different pellets.



Unbelievable!

I realize this is only 30 yards, but I do plan on testing at 50 and 100 soon.
I've only had this thing for a week, but man PCPs are fun! My recommendation for anyone who is wanting to get into this is to do your research and don't let the fact that it's "just an airgun" keep you from buying quality. These things are so much more fun bc you can get trigger time in your backyard and they're super accurate. A big thank you to the people of this forum and others with the wealth of knowledge that is shared.
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I was killing time in my basement and found an almost empty tin of AA 10.3 gr pellets. I started shooting them at 10M with my AA HFT 500 and every once in a while got a flyer. So, out came my scale and I started weighing. I weighed about 15 of them and most were etween 10.1-10.3. BUT, one was 10.6 and one 10.7. So I shot 5 of the 10.3 and as you can see, they all went in the same hole. I took the 10.7 and aimed at the same spot and voila, a flyer, big time. Just to prove again that sorting pellets, at least by weight is a good thing.

I've ordered .25 dynamic 700 and plan on using a portable 12v compressor surely the better ones have acceptable built in water striping, I dont see the point in buying a purpose built tool and having to spend heaps more customising it . My questions are does anyone know if the dynamic block and internals are made from all stainless and alloys that are non corrosive , if so then how much problem is some moisture in the air as from what I see no filters remove 100% anyway ? Also has anyone had problems with this set up directly attributed to water?

Selling one of my FX Mavericks. This one is in .177cal with 500mm barrel.
As you can see from the pics it has:
- upgraded gauges
-3 mags
-standard FX moderator with aftermarket internals
-Upgraded AirMarks 300cc carbon fiber tank than can be filled to 300bar unlike the factory one
-Huma-Air blue laminate pistol grip
Comes with factory long case, not the short one.
The Bipod is optional, which is. UTG Pro. Price is $90 extra if you want it.
Price is $1150 shipped, double boxed and insured. PayPal 3% or FF, MO accepted as well.
*I can tune this airgun any way you want it and can also show you how.*
Call, text or PM with any questions. I have been in airguns for a long time and love to talk airguns and will try to be as helpful as I can.
Thanks,
Jason (865-776-3850)

Hello. New to the forum. I've been a firearms shooter most of my life. I had bb guns as a kid and only recently discovered the advances in air gun technology so I decided to jump in. I like the relative low cost of the guns but more importantly, the ammo.
My air rifles:
Craigslist find Ruger Umarex Airhawk Elite II .177. It wasn't taken care of very well but it was cheap and shoots straight at 25y.
Gamo Swarm Whisper 10X .22 w/ 4x32 Gamo "optic".
I like the idea of small game hunting (rabbits and birds) without the attention getting BANG! and .50 cents to a dollar per shot of my long guns if SHTF.
Looking for people close by to join forces.

Thanks,

Pavelow