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Panthera Hunter Compact .22 Slugs at 25 yards & 50 yards

Hello,

Not sure where to post this but I'll post it here. I found a slug that my PHC likes. The H&N Slug HP in .218 21gr going at 900fps. I think I'll try the .217 and see how well those do. This is a 50 yard shot. My first group was at 25 yards and I shot 6 slugs. Everything else was at 50 yards and a 5 shot group. I can definitely get a tighter group if I I put a better scope on with higher magnification. Right now it has the DiscoveryOpt HD 2-12X24SFIR FFP. I'm pretty impressed with this 300mm barrel gun.

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Maven RS.5 4-20x50 SFP w IR

Maven is a manufacturer direct to consumer. An other manufacturer direct company to consumer is Tract Optics, that uses Schott glass as opposed to the Japanese glass used in Maven Optics. Any one here have compared the two brands?:unsure:
I’ve tried the Maven on a few different airguns now. A Ghost, a Blackwolf, and a TM1000X.

It’s a beautiful scope, almost sexy and it functions flawlessly and I really like the mil reticle SFP for HFT use - right amount of thickness.

Like most scopes, at 16X It doesn’t range well much past 35 yards and if using a 6” wheel on the parallax knob, it only spreads the #’s out 110 degrees.

If I were to buy one or keep this one, I probably would put it on my HFT or EFT pistol 🤪
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Other  HW45 Love

I really enjoy the pistol, still need to try a stock on one of mine.

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I am not a pistolero, so I struggled with it. Add the springer characteristic and it was a real challenge. After adding the stock, things got WAY easier for me. There are still physics to deal with, but they are much more easily adressed with a stock.

FX  FX King or FX Continuum 30 cal.

I am shooting 30 cal FX Crown mk2, 600mm barrel. upgraded hammer, 150BAR reg I am getting 890fps with 44gn NSA slugs and 850 fps with 50gn FX Pellets, both come down to about same FPE. Getting crown to shoot above 900 with heavier slugs will take some work, heavier hammer, and by then you'll run out of planum, 50gn 900FPS is probably a limit for crown without going in to some crazy upgrades.

There are lighter pellets than 44.75gn !

So your saying you generating 55 ft lbs with 37 grain pellets. 🤔

I’d have to see that to confirm it.
Yep, 54.9fpe out of a break barrel hatsan 130S and 135QE .30, with hatsans new 160 BAR gas piston. Both 30's have been gone through for friction reduction, barrel lapping, Crown re-cut, pellet port modification and on the .30's the moderator internals have been modified and so has the barrel shroud, that's just with the 10.6" barrel, If the barrel was 17.7" like the 125 .25 the 45gn .30 pellets would come out at around 820fps/67fpe and the 37gn would be about 925fps/70fpe, yet, as it stands 45gn at 724fps has 30.4fpe at 100Yds., 37gn is 32fpe. -- I haven't done the pellet 'splash' test (Flowering) with the 37gn Alloy pellets because they are $35.99 for 154 of them, P.A. has them at almost double that price, here is a picture of what my .30's did to 4 pellets fired into 2" thick steel for effect, they 'splashed', came apart instead of turning into the pellets that 'flowered'. IMG_0353.jpgpellets.PNG

N/A  Marauder vs HM 1000x First PCP

Hello to all,

I am new to the PCP world and have already acquired a compressor. For the last three months I have been shooting a GAMO swarm viper out to about 50 yards. I had no idea how much I would enjoy this sport! I can shoot PB on my property but being able to sit inside next to my wife and talk to her while shooting has been a top notch 10/10 experience. Not to mention shooting an air rifle is much cleaner than a PB! Also, worth mentioning how much quieter it is.

That being said my GAMO break barrel is starting to diesel... I think... I typically will have a fairly long shooting session on the weekends. about 150-400 pellets in one sitting. However, lately if I'm shooting my GAMO a lot it starts to..diesel? smokes.. smells.. I set it down for a while and let it "cool off" and it'll shoot fine again for another 10-15 shots. That being said I've come to the conclusion that I want more accuracy out of my rifle. Which has led me to the PCP rabbit hole.

I typically bench rest shoot and would like something capable of shooting 100 yards fairly consistently. I THINK I want to be able to shoot slugs too. Reason being is that I live in Illinois out in the corn fields and the wind here is relentless. Shooting out of my GAMO I'm shooting 11.75 gr predator GTO pellets and the wind tosses them around a lot. It doesn't stop me from shooting though but between the springer being hold sensitive and the wind it can be frustrating.

SO I am in a bit of a dilemma.. I currently have $800 saved for a PCP air rifle. I would like to stay local as far as branding for fear of not being able to receive parts should I need them (USA)

OPTION 1: Benjamin Marauder
I really like this because of the price point and legacy. My buddy who got me into this sport has two P-rods he has built with CF bottles and completely transformed it into a work of art.
However, I like the traditional wood stock rifle look.

Pros:
good parts service/aftermarket availability
price
nice wood stock
accuracy
Quiet!
good trigger (better than my GAMO)
adjustable cheek riser

Cons:
I think this is the biggest for me. SHOT COUNT seems TERRIBLE and I can't find the parts for a bottle conversion...
a 20-30 shot count is a killer for me. the field and target model seems great with 80-90 shot per fill but I'm worried that you're trading shot count for power... so would the field and target just be a pea shooter? How would that affect it at say 100 yards...would the field and target be capable of shooting slugs? Or does it lack the power...
not regulated (unless field and target or I regulate it myself)


OPTION 2: RAW hm 1000x
This seems to just check all my boxes and is just a beautiful looking rifle. Not to mention USA made as well.

Pros:
nice wood/laminate stock
seems to be more accurate on reviews than m rod
more FPE
more fps
Good trigger
I believe it's slug capable?
local and from my understanding RAW is a great company to get in contact with.
Regulated
higher shot count 50-60

Cons:
Price. Is it too much air rifle for my needs? maybe a little pesting but nothing my current GAMO couldn't handle. mostly shooting paper, spinners, etc.

no cheek riser unless you go for the tactical chassis

I've heard it's relatively loud. which would mean the Mrs. would kick me outside with it lol. I have seen you can attach a donny fl silencer to it. I do prefer the look of the non shrouded version but have seen the pressed on threads come off on a review while shooting it and that has REALLY made me question whether or not it's worth it. But if it has to be shrouded so be it. still a nice rifle.



BONUS Daystate Wolverine R HP in either .177 or .22
I know it's across the pond but the price is just right. great shot count and power. I would love to shoot .177 seems you can get so much more ammo per dollar but I have a feeling the winds out here would really break my heart :( how is it dealing with parts and service from daystate? they seem to have reasonable reputation.


I know I could get more of a mid range like the avenger x but I try to stay clear of Chinese products with my hobbies. I am also a huge knife nut and only buy American made knives. I just don't get the same satisfaction buying Chinese goods. (I'm not saying they can't make a great product)


I'm open to any suggestions and advice anyone could give on the matter or any other rifles that I could be overlooking. Thank you!
The RAW is the best choice especially with a moderator - check classifieds for used
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HW/Weihrauch  New look for an old friend.

After 3 + days of rain (6+") the sun finally came out today and I finally got to play with my Baby BB gun. Had a blast knocking a Gatorade bottle 40 yards up the driveway. Almost couldn't miss. Started aiming for the orange cap and I blew it off. Then I started knocking that up the drive. Then I made the mistake of trying for my smallest pistol plate. I hit the belted rubber hanger and the pellet came whizzing back and hit the house hard. Luckily it missed the windows. I won't try that again.
Your gonna shoot your eye out!

Results  PSA Long Range FT 4-5-2025 Results

Than ks to Bryan W, Mike B, and everyone else that helped.

It was my first shoot and I think LRFT is a "HOOT"! LOL!

Match was not too difficult and it was very enjoyable. It also helped that winds were light. In that range winds can de devilishly hard to read.
In many ways it reminded me of BPCR shooting where you let go of the shot and you can count the seconds till the projectile gets there, LOL!
It was also interesting to compete with top $ equipment with an AvengeX and a bargain basement scope. I do have to say that the misses were almost all mine, there was only ONE errant pellet, but that one I would attribute it to the unsorted and unlubed pellets I was using.
Some pictures for your enjoyment are posted in the AirgunWarriors forum:

https://airgunwarriors.com/communit...rtsmans-association-long-range-ft-2025-04-05/


Keep well and shoot straight!




HM

FX  Officially an FX owner now.

ONE OF US, ONE OF US, ONE OF US!!! JK, honestly I shoot pellets mostly cause I don’t want to spend the time, money nerves needed to get (very good) pellet accuracy out of slugs at 75y and in. That said, I have dedicated sluggers in .177 (my only .177 lol, let’s see whether I ever try pellets), .22 and .25 just so that I also have something that’ll do great further out and or in the wind. The only gun I have that is truly great at both is my P3. And maybe the m4, but that’s because it shoots 34gr AEA as if they were slugs :)
I may try slugs at some point, but for now I'm just really enjoying how the M4 is slinging the pellets. And I'm not saying I won't try a heavier pellet in the future, but for now the 18.13 gr pellets are doing just fine. Who knows, that may fall apart at 40-50+ yards later on and I may have to tune a bit or try a different pellet weight. I've really not shot seriously past 35 yards other than testing out the data I've entered into my Kestrel 5700 against the solutions it co.es up with at known ranges. So far I'm thinking I'm going to have to play with my BC number because there's about a 3 MOA difference between what the Kestrel says to dial in at 65 yards, and what I actually have to dial in. The Kestrel is telling me to dial in 3 MOA higher than I actually need to be...if I remember right.

Can you fill past 500cc

They are really just telling you that it's for filling rifle size cylinders and not scuba or scba cylinders. 580cc are fine, it'll never know the difference.
The big concern is heat. If you run a small, rifle filling only, compressor for long periods of time it will overheat the seals an toast them. Keep your runs to less than 10-15 minutes, shorter if possible and you'll likely be fine.
I have three or four GX CS2 compressors and I fill almost everyday with one of them, only guns and the runs are less than 10 minutes. I even fill 700cc cylinders, so if the runs are short, the compressor is fine. I do try to keep my hand on the head if it's a long fill, say from empty to 700cc @ 250 bar, and give it a rest when I think it's getting hot. No problems yet.

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