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Sharp Shoot-R NO-LEAD Brushless Lead Remover

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It's been through at least two formulations, likely a third. Originally it would produce a pinkish bubbling surface when applied. That formulation is long gone along with the wipe-out electrolysis unit that worked great. In the case of electrolysis, I'm surprised they ever made that unit(I own one), the waste liquid is an extremely hazardous waste and I'm guessing the pink coloration of the patch removal stuff on contact with lead was an indication it to was extremely hazardous(the pink indicates transformation to lead salts in solution, liquid absorbed very easily through skin with the lead salts). Original pink producing stuff was left in bore for an hour by instructions, and then needed to be neutralized using their products. That stuff was aggressive and worked well. Most people I knew just used dawn dish soap in hot water to clean it out, followed by oil/preservative application and never had trouble, other than it's somewhat short time on the market. One person I knew, had a whole shelf of the stuff several deep in his reloading room, hoping it aged well over the years. He also would buy 100 or more lbs of lots of powder that worked very well., he would buy 1lb containers of new stuff to try, if it was great(better than what he used in a cal/bullet specific application) and that lot number was easily available he would buy, buy, buy. Kept his powder stash in an insulated concrete block house with a blow out wall facing away from his house, with an hvac system. Best thing to do if you can afford it, I've suffered through loss of powders that were discontinued over the years, and also sometimes having only one lot of a specific powder work well, same powder when I ran out wasn't even close and back to the drawing board.

The second formulation created dark grey/black sludge and by all accounts worked well when it first came out, only to not work well in short order, neither I nor anyone I knew ever tried it Age, and not that much killed its effectiveness. They changed the packaging to be in two bottles that you mixed what you needed, since pre-mixed lost its ability to work in somewhat a short time, sealed in a bottle didn't matter, new stuff after a few months on the shelves didn't work as well as fresh and just got worse with time.

Third formulation, if there is a third, it is back to one bottle. Same grey/black sludge produced. If it is just saving costs of two bottles packaging and is the same formula, after a few months it will start to not work as well, eventually not working at all. If it is a new formula, hopefully it still works decently and doesn't have a short shelf life, I have no idea.

The version producing grey/black sludge, or both versions if new formula, is to be left in the bore 20 minutes and thoroughly cleaned from bore(no more warning of neutralizing chemicals with their products, but still suggest same products).

In all cases, you needed to clean the bore so there was no chemicals/oils in it for the product to work before using, and after using.
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GX compressor company ?

1900colt
Trucker3573 said:
Yeah I agree with that 👍
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The filters are about here.. should be within the next couple weeks. I'll have an affiliate link posted as soon as available.

As far as new products, I'm not sure if the mention was referring to GX or some other brand or item. There are a few things coming up with GX, but nothing that's going to shake the Airgun world to its knees at this time.
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FX  Fx impact m4 macro does not reduce speed much with 8.5g hammer? Is this normal ?

Boss429
Irish shooter said:
On a previous post I noted I upgraded my hammer to 8.5g humma air hammer.

My reg was at 135 and and was achieving 950fps with zans 37gr. This worked fine for speed but accuracy was just ok.so I looked for a better tune. After some correspondence from zan they said I should be shooting them at 985-1010. So I upped my reg up get to these speeds.

However in both my tunes I found the tune ability with the macro was negligible. For example tonight when my reg was back to 135 I was getting 965fps with my macro on 16. I turned the macro gradually to 4 and there was only 3fps decrease.( I’m confused)

The only way I could get any noticeable drop or increase in speed was using my valve adjustment but that’s not the way to tune according to countless videos on YouTube that iv watched

I presume im doing something wrong if my macros isn’t having much of an effect.

Is my hammer too heavy ? Should I use 7.5g or revert back to 6.5g

Any advice ?
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i have used both those hammers and have the 8,5 now with my reg at 155 bar 600mm .25
not sure if you have a 25 or 22 but the ZAN slugs for .25 are only good for paperweights way undersize .247 .248 no good .249 249.5
you want a real nice soft slug varmint knocker.

with the 8.5 hammer if you notice the shoulder is taller so it adds preload to the hammer spring
mine on 16 1030+ roll to setting 4 970s
proper way to tune these is 1st set your target speed and roll the valve out 4.5 lines out and leave it there.
roll the power wheel to 16 micro-3.5 i use caliper to measure this and the valve adjuster makes it accurate.
gradually raise reg pressure and adjusting the hammer until you hit the end of the rainbow. for every time you raise the reg and retune
you keep adjusting the micro up more hammer few clicks then shoot there will come a point where you adjust the Micro
that your speed does not increase any more it starts to drop.

this is the curve of the rainbow where you start to back off on the Micro until you hit max velocity again.
now roll the micro until it drops 3-4 fps and stop. this is your max speed for this reg pressure with this hammer adjustment with this grain slug
just before the peak of the rainbow is where you want to be.

if your set target speed is say 980 tune the gun 30-40 fps quicker than target speed so tune for 1020.
once you reach 1020 by raising reg pressure and adjusting hammer spring tension, now can start to click the power wheel back.
with the 8.5 you will need to roll it back to 5 or 4 before you see a decrease of let's say 5-12 fps with the huma 8. 5 takes some adjustment away
but power wheel is only a cam lobe the numbers is just the position of the lobe to me.
so, now it takes 2 clicks vs 1 with this hammer.

ok so now we are at 1000 -998 don't touch the micro or power wheel adjustment any more only the valve adjuster.
start turning it in 1/4 turns at a time it will pick up speed as you turn it in, they all do within a couple turns.
once you notice the speed is now slowing. now turn in 1/8 turns like a clock face 1 -12 o clock and yes that little bit can be as much as 10 fps
as you dial it in, as the speed starts to drop from closing the valve listen to the gun, you will notice it getting quiet and also gaining a ping
at this point you should start shooting 4 to 5 shot groups id shoot H&N before Zan's in .25 imo.
as you turn the valve adjuster you will notice your group sizes shrink to hole in a hole once this is done
take notes of reg hammer valve adjuster micro best to use caliper to measure the micro in mm you can always go back to let's say 18,53mm
vs 3 just about a quarter line, or 2-3/4 out on the valve adjuster vs 7.98mm 8mm

this is the best way i have learned to tune these for best accuracy and efficiency any air coming out of the barrel once the slug leaves
is turbulent air and will disrupt flight of the slug. we record at 1 1/10.000 of a sec slow motion you can watch the slug or pellet Tilt
from this burst behind it.
I've tried all different ways up to now, good luck
this is done at 30 then checked at 50 75 100 +
if you run your reg no higher than 135 run the huma. 7.5 i find the 8.5 is good for 140 up
good luck
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.177 slugs from CZ barrels

JaceSpace1369
RabbitofCaerbannog said:
Its still hard to believe, slugs shooting as tight as pellets.. apparently that's blasphemy or witchcraft.

I guess we're witches.
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We must be, my Akela .177 shoots slugs better than pellets at any distance.
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Resources  Gamo field target upgrades

cavedweller
AirNGasman said:
I feel Gamo field targets pretty reliiable design, unfortunately compromised by inferior face-plate and paddle weaknesses (especialy for extensive competition use/purposes). So although well-stocked with (original) replacement Gamo face-plates, I'm constantly repairing beat-up Gamo paddles by reflattenig and/or reinforcing them with bolts and/or washers.

Consequently I was pleasantly surprised to find Quality Targets offers not only replacement face-plates for Gamos, but paddles as well; at very reasonable prices. Quality being my Bench-Rest Silhouette swingers supplier, and the owner Calvin being not only very easy to deal with but his company one of the best I've ever dealt with, another reason (in this case) to not only give him my business but have a conversation with Calvin is his willingness to customize his MANY steel target offerings to specifications. In this case, by making replacement Gamo paddles out of (tougher) AR500 steel. Though apparently not available in 1/8" thickness, and the 3/32" AR500 also requiring heating to twist, I gladly paid the (very reasonable) premium for a dozen upgraded paddles.

However upon receipt, I worried about the considerably heavier paddles falling consistently to clean hits; especially from 12 foot pound AAFTA pistol hits... out to 35 yards. But upon upgrading a few of my most beat-up Gamo targets with the QUALITY face-plates and paddles, I was impressed enough to start wondering about their possibilities for Extreme Field Target use. :unsure:

First things first, I tested the jackalope below at 40 yards with my 10.5 foot pound AAFTA pistol. Much to my relief, the jackalope functioned flawlessly with 7 foot pound hits from 8.4 gain JSBs.

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My first question answered, even if the 1/8" thick, non-AR500 steel replacement face-plates are tougher than original Gamos, no doubt they won't hold up to Extreme FT rifle hits. But not easily deterred, and having ordered all the replacement face-plates with 1.5" kill-zones in order to accept heavy-duty (THICK) reducers I have on hand, by also using 2.25" O.D. steel washers between the reducers and face-plates the face-plates might have some chance of surviving hits from EFT rifles. Unfortunately that question will go unanswered until which time foul weather and other priorities allows testing. :mad:

So for the time being, the prairie dog target above, left 'in the raw' for illustration purposes with the reducer and washer in place, remains 'food for thought'... aka- a question. I'll answer that question soon as weather and priorities permit. Meanwhile,🤞!

Regardless, pretty sure the Quality Targets upgrades described will render them virtually impervious to AAFTA power levels. (y)(y) That, in itself, will be worth the price of admission (upgrades).


Happy Shooting, :)
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Plus 10 in agreement that quality targets is a outstanding resource!
Just received my gamo paddle replacements to replace those damaged by Crosman premier heavies
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Barrel Karma Red Panda Bench

Centercut
Struckat said:
Donny said it’s damaged on purpose to win? I have a hard time understanding that.
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Winning is great. Have there been any wins with stock off the shelf Red Pandas?
That 216 posted above is decent but not going to win anything.
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FX Royale 400 - AoA

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BordertownDevil said:
I have gotten some killer deals on older models/used guns through AoA. I’ve got some older Brococks (pre Daystate) , an HW100FSB, and Walthers for gonga prices! It’s always worth it to peruse their used section. Many times those “used” guns are actually new
Gerry52 said:
Never seen a non ambidextrous stock before on one of these either (no cheek weld on left side)! Custom job originally?
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Here's mine I got from AOA in 2022. The last wood stocked one they had.
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Zelle is no more as a payment method....

zerochance
If your bank is enrolled in FedNow instant payment and so is the seller or buyer, you can get your funds instantly. FedNow is like Zelle but you don't have to use an app for the instant payment. The funds will be transferred from account to account instantly. No more middle man. I think this is the reason why Zelle is going away. Larger financial institution is going away from Zelle and going to FedNow for more control on their end. Zelle is a private 3rd party while FedNow is public. Any financial institution can sign up for FedNow.
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Other  Air Pistol Recommendations

beerthief
Sawney Bean said:
If you've got the money, then get the GK1, and you might want to do it now, given what's going on with tariffs.

The following pistols aren't PCP's, but they're the air pistols I would be shopping for if I didn't already have them...Crosman 600, Crosman Mk1, Webley Tempest, Beeman P17.
The one air pistol I wouldn't buy again is the Beeman P1/HW45. It's performance is disappointing considering it's price point.

I also wouldn't purchase a Hatsan Jet again, but I regard that as more of a carbine than a pistol, which is something that PCP air pistols seem to inevitably morph into. People want more shots per fill and better consistency, so they opt for larger reservoirs and then find that the gun is too large and awkward to be used as a pistol and they add a folding stock and a scope.
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Webley Tempest i would not call a 10 meter gun , Very jumpy shot cycle , i have one for years (1992 )
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