Vincent is spot on....Sportsmatch.

If I understand correctly, you shoot fine through a square hole but your group starts to open (drift) when trying to just shoot a group at a spot on the paper.

The only difference I can tell between the two scenarios is that the appearance of the target changes when you shoot at just the paper. With the square hole, the appearance of the square stays the same between shots.

Sometimes when I’m shooting just to see how well the gun will group, I will move my point of impact (with the scope) away from my point of aim. This keeps the target appearance the same throughout the group.

I’m no coach by any means and I may have misunderstood what issue you are having so take the above with a grain of salt.

Good luck and have fun,
Dave

Franklink said:

Yep, that's the one. The guy with the vision and gumption to turn EBR's yearly "American Field Target" into what long range/high power field target is today.

Extreme BenchRest liked the name Ben was using enough to fight a big nasty custody battle for the the legal use of "Extreme Field Target" and won at least in part by way of ability to pay more for lawyer fees. The summary of the legal battle was that Ben was actively using and had trademarked the name first but EBR claimed to have had an unused website with that phrase that dated back to 2014 or so. Muddy legal waters certainly. Of course, as anyone involved is aware, the actual use and notoriety of that name started with Ben's monthly matches at Phoenix Rod and Gun Club. For anybody that'd like to dispute the timeframes, just do a YouTube search for "American Field Target" and pay attention to dates. And then do a search for Extreme Field Target here on Airgun Nation, again paying attention to dates. You'll find a whole lot of match reports for Ben's Extreme Field Target matches that I wrote that occured prior to the first Extreme Field Target at EBR.

Anyway. Yeah, Ben Spencer. That man has done a lot of good for field target that not many are aware of. He shared his newest vision for field target in the second post of this discussion. Ultimate Field Target, and again, essentially a vision of inclusivity.

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Awesome background info! American LD FT or UFT or AFT or Arizona style FT or HP FT, they all work for me (the letter E is overrated) heck BS FT rocks just as well.
IMO - It’s the big moolah and sponsorship thing and the associated sales and investments that put the sand in my panties.

AEA pellets are better than anything else these days IMHO. All my guns love them. Thinking that I spent hours and countless different tins to find “the” pellet for every individual gun. Just for AEA to come around and start producing the ultimate pellet apparently. I’m not buying any other pellets anymore. All calibers. They also make slugs and people seem happy with them, I couldn’t make their slugs work yet…

Hello Fellow Shooters!
The next scheduled field target match of the Boerne Field Target Club will be held on Saturday, Nov 9th. Weather that day is forecasted for a perfect 75 degrees, and partly cloudy. We hope you can make it! A Silhouette match is scheduled after field target around 1 pm.

The usual:
33 Shooting Club Rd, Boerne TX
Sight in is 0800
Match starts at 0900
Water and air provided

We hope to see you there!
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Hello everybody before I buy I want to make sure…I want to add rear 300cc bottle to my hunter compact which has the front 480cc already. Friend Is sending me some spare part such as:

saber tactical front bottle adapter st0056
The silver one the picture. He told me that this should also work to put in the rear I just need to remove black plug in the rear stock.

HOWEVER, should I buy FX dynamic/Panthera double air adapter kit m130 the picture with the black pieces???? Or should the silver one work for what I want to do.

ThomasT said:

Hello everyone,

Here is my entry, too much wind for 25-yards so I shot this at 10-Meters outdoors using my Custom PP-800R .22cal Pistol from a bench rested front and rear on bags.

ThomasT

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SkeeterHawk said:

You're right, I should have called that out. I think 25 yards is hard enough, and most people can "reach" out that far.

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So the best is 27,a lot of 27. Maybe we should do 50 yards

JaceSpace1369 said:

They are blanks correct? I've checked them up before. I had a 450mm long, 1:14.6" twist that I just sold to @weevil Bought it from airgunheaven.com cost me about $420 Never really got to use it, so it's definitely going to a better home.

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Yes, blanks. Around 110 euro and 8 euro shipping.
Definitely worth the experiment.

drsquall said:

The only 2 pellets that do better if your gun shoots them is the polymags or H&N hornets.

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The H&N hornets are awesome pellets to have if you've hunting iguanas with a .177 even at lower powers it will penetrate and break through bones. You're right about them being great IF you guns likes them lol

Just ordered a .177cal with mod adapter, carm magazine and a Vector Veyron 3-12x44. I’ll probably being going the Buck rail direction here soon, I absolutely love yours A.J great job.

Does anyone know what bar to set the reg at in a 12ftlbs 10" barrel .177 as I'm getting all different settings when I've asked

goldsmith001 said:

RTI says it can shoot pellets as well as slugs, have you found this to be true? I just ordered a .25 w/600mm barrel.

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Yes shoots both very well indeed !

Zesty said:

Exactly sir there is such a thing as a "good miss"...A good man must understand his limitations yes?

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I would say that a good miss is a clean miss, a wise man knows where he may be limited, but strives to do better without putting himself down.

Age has close to zero bearing on product longevity. In many cases older vintage products are more desirable and valuable than the brand new stuff. And then there are polymers, plastics of course.
Damn few new semi auto shotguns I would trade for my 40 YO Winchester SX1 for instance. The HK VP7 was the first polymer pistol, so far so good, will the next half century be as kind? I've yet to see a Polymer material that does not change with time. Time will tell.

well i got like 4 hrs in today shot 7 different slugs ranging from 26.5 to JSB 33.49 and AEA 33.9 .
also got to try the huma-air pin probe along with swapping from the pellet port to the slug port.
the huma air pin probe was good for 15fps with either port if you're going to use pellets i found you have to use only shallow skirt depth 2.5mm and less
otherwise, they won't load as smooth. I'm going to shoot both pellets and slugs, so the stock pellet probe is just fine. 33.43 gr 1015 fps I'm good.
however, swapping to the slug port 30 fps so there it stayed re indexed the liner and back on track
out of all the slugs BIG thanks to HogKiller AEA 30g and 33.9 970-980 1/4 in @ 50 yds
JSB KO 33.49g 970-975 just shy of 1/2 group @ 50 yds
the H&N 22g just like the AEA 30 g no adjustments shot the same reg was at 120 went to 125 pw 10 -12 micro 3-1/2 600mm 1/18.
started to get dark chrono was no longer reading so called it a day.
funny when comparing the jsb H&N and AEA there all within a few cm in length side by side they look the same taper and measure the same o.d.
AEA and JSB pellets seem to work the best 29-25g aea 25 and 33g jsb 900-940fps seem to work best
i will say once you get into fine tuning with that knob for hammer travel the shot strings get very consistent.

i will say big change going from a notos to modified notos to this m4 or for that matter any of the higher end rifles.
this is still a new hobby 6 months roughly after drag racing for 20 years i needed something other than my 4x4 atv to tinker with.
powder burners i have but something about these air powered guns got my attention...
well guys figure id pass some info along here is a couple 4 shot strings.

atwong said:

I wish this was minimum of 10 posts was lower.

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I wish it was higher. But our wonderful mods and site owner get to make those decisions through lots of time, effort, and hard work to keep this site a nice place to be.

I think it depends on when you got your Alkin which pressure switch you have on it. Also maybe the auto and manual have different pressure switches.

Mine has a pressure switch which is the same one which my F10 Shoebox had on it. IMO this pressure switch is not super accurate and can/will change a bit over time. I noticed my fills were only going to 300 bar instead of 315 bar so I made small adjustments testing each time. As with the OP you just need to go in small adjustments and test the cutoff each time.

This time, I had the opportunity to test some .308 caliber slugs. However, just before testing, I needed to replace my scope with a new one. It was previously mounted on my AEA Big 9, and now that it's on the Texan, I require a riser mount. Nevertheless, I managed to achieve a two-shot group twice. For one group, I marked the shot with tape. The slug is a 150gr flat nose and flat base with a knurled design, providing very accurate shots from 100 yards with my .308 Texan. Once I have the .308 dialed in, I might attempt 200, 300, and 400-yard targets.

All good ideas. I believe that those are metal (aluminum?) pucks, but a plastic just might work well. Just be sure that the plastic is not oil base as it will 'melt' with the lube/grease in the bolt/housing.

mike

I got one from him last week along with a couple 12 round mags. Very happy with the result. Even got the wife's seal of approval, dry firing in the house. Shooting pellets outside is very quiet even though I shoot between 2 stone walls.

hotrodduck said:

Nice. I have the tactical version X and wish they would have used a reg buffer tube like this saber does. I might have too upgrade mine now. Lo,

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Yeah not sure why the choice was made to use some hollow and oddly threaded tube on the tactical version but I imagine it was to comply with anti human rights (AKA gun rights) laws or something. Perhaps they were worried about shipping it with "aSsAuLt wEaPoN" parts. It should have been a standard old milspec buffer tube. At least Saber includes an adapter for ya, that was a nice touch

MikeVV said:

Hmm - Per the thread title.

How does one "check" the pellet speed (FPS)...without...shooting ?

Sorry...had to say it !

Mike

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LOL, sorry about my "chinglish". Yes, shoot you gun over the chrony and see what the speed is.

My apologies please move this to hunting forum if possible thanks!

10-4, thanks!!!!