The weather is nasty here today so no target shooting for me. I decided instead to test the penetration of a couple slugs my guns like. My Caiman X likes 21 grain H&N slugs and is tuned to shoot them about 920 fps. My P35-177 shoots 12.5 grain Nielsen slugs pretty well. It is tuned to shoot 10.6 grain pellets about 875 fps and shot the 12.5 grain slugs about 800 fps in these tests.

It was raining when I started so I tested penetration in mdf in the garage at point blank range. That was a bit of a mistake because I normally test at 25 yards. The 21 grain went through 3 .25 inch pieces of mdf and the 12.5 grain 2. But I then tried the 21 grain at 25 yards and a 10.6 grain pellet at point blank range. Both tests indicate I get through 1 more layer of mdf with either gun when testing at point blank range. So penetration of the slugs in this hard material is the same as pellets. I will include a picture of a 10.6 grain pellet and a 21 grain slug after going through the mdf. Both are pretty distorted.

I will also include pictures from the side and nose of the projectiles that went into the paper. The 21 grain H&N slugs expanded to about .265 and the 12.5 grain Nielsen did not expand. But the Nielsens left the muzzle at 800 fps and the H&N left at about 920 fps.

I found the 10.6 grain pellets in the 10th and 11th magazine. That's consistent with previous tests or a little less, probably because this test was at 35 yards and prior tests were at 25. The 12.5 grain slugs went through 9, 11, and 12 magazines. The 3 21 grain slugs went through 12 magazines. In prior tests the Caiman shot through 17 to 19 magazines with 18 grain pellets.

I do these tests to see if there is enough penetration for small game. I like to see about 10 magazines or more and got that. I would expect either slug to kill squirrels fine with the 21 grain dropping them a bit quicker.

Could also be they have some kind of holiday, my friend have a parcel from Mundilar, which was stranded in Spain Friday - weekend - Monday - Tuesday according to tracking number.

Right now in Denmark, schools ASO are on winter break for a week. but not aware if Spain have the same deal going at the same time, that would be amazing

Thank you Darkhorse

I have taken so far 550 shots, mix of suitable pellets and slugs. I am still into testing, measuring speeds at the various power settings for my favourite pellets/slugs. I have always payed attention to have the proper pressure for the pellet, usually I shoot from 280 bar down to 150-170 bar, depending on the weight of the pellet/slug. Never did speed shooting. Trigger also adjusted, so I have a defined two stage, not too light. I was shooting last week JSB/Exact Jumbo Heavy/Pellet 18.13 grain, JSB/Exact Jumbo/Pellet 15.89 grain @ 1.25 power setting. 19 shoots each to measure the pressure consumption. I refilled again to 280 bar between strings. As I am doing statistics with all my shooting from the beginning, I overved that with the same power setting I am getting in the mean time more speed. At first tought I had not set the power screw correctly, so I repeated the shots with the same setting. For example, for the JSB 18.13 grain with 1.25 power I had last year at the beginning 217 m/s, now 550 shots later I am getting 228 m/s. Any body out there similar observations? Would be interesting to read from you.

Now to my problem. After refilling to 280 bar I was shooting JSB/Exact Jumbo Monster Redesign/Pellet 25.39 grain @ 1.5 power, which I had done before several times. After two shots, the gun start slowly to loose all pressure. This is what I observed and what I did:

Safety was not engaging, magazine could be turned manually in the correct direction, even when locked. The magazine release arm moved back and forth without resistance. I set the power screw back to zero (fully clockwise in) and removed the magazine plastic side cover to empty the pellets. I had 19 loaded and recovered two, so barrel was clear. Then I put back on the side cover. After opening the back plate I could remove the striker buffer spring. The blue striker buffer could be pushed in until an audible click. Then the safety was working again. Striker buffer I have taken out gently with an allen key, then I could push the spring through the buffer about half way. Then it was possible to re-assemble. During refilling, at approx. 100 bar the magazine indexing "kicked in" (sounded like rattling). Then I filled to 180 bar and dry fired 3x. Pressure still at 180 bar. I know that the striker buffer spring and the striker buffer are in the spare parts set, but the existing parts looked good so I used them again. The only thing I did not do was to put grease back on to the spring, because I had the impression that there was enough inside.

So my question is, why did this happen. I always shoot according to the manual and the good advices from this forum and other experts, like Luchtbuks. Will this happen with GK1 V3 on a regular basis? Is there anything I could do to improve the situation and avoid that this happens again? In the mean time I am back into shooting and the gun performs as it should be. Just wanted to share my experience.

I hope I have better luck with them as I have 3 because I like them and got great deals on them.I hope the great deals were not because of any problems,they are all new.
I going to mount them all on PCP rifles. Now I going to watch over them like a mother hen and make sure they work right.....
Big Companies buy other companies to get well-known brand names and then the qualitites go down Sucks!!

SpindleB said:

Rather than rebuild the Amp in my Bobcat I opted to throw money at the problem and bought a Huma Air replacement. Much better, easy to adjust, easy to maintain.

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I upgraded both regs on my M3 to HUMA regs. The HUMA Reg 1 for the tank seems more responsive and more consistent. The second HUMA Reg is not much different than the newer brass piston version of the FX Amp Reg 2 for the plenum, except the piston seal/seat (Delrin?) on the newer FX Amp is affixed to the end of the brass piston. If for some reason the seal/seat get damaged or dimpled, and needs replaced, the whole piston has to be replaced. On the HUMA Reg, you have a separate tiny seal/disc that you can flip over to a fresh surface and continue with a new seal. After the first flip to reseal, you can replace just the disc if a new part is needed, and the reg comes with a couple spares. Again, well-thought-out serviceability from HUMA.

PolarisRngr said:

What was overall score?

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164 1/2

Call or Email Hatsan. My dealings with them, Jaden to be specific, have always been positive. It sounds like warrantee work and they will send you a label to ship it.

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Come out with a .30 or .35 caliber and I might not it....

DeSoto Airgunner FT (Arcadia, FL) Match Report Feb 9, 2025
Posted by Gary P. for our match director, Ron Z.





Hi Field Target Enthusiasts:

Here is a link to our latest match write-up. It was a fun event held on Super Bowl Sunday and included a surprise appearance by an alligator on lane 2.

See all the details here:

http://www.desotoairgunners.net/id346.htm


Some added pics:

Dennis D. was poised to ONCE AGAIN clean the course. Unfortunately, his last lane and last shot, at a very difficult target to range and read the wind, sailed left a bit to a split at 11 O'Clock. Still, 47/48 ain't bad. Especially considering we have 3 targets per lane on both standing and kneeling forced positions. He obviously cleaned both of those.

Hello

Old-School said:

Any more info on the GX filter?

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The first shipment will be here next month

Well,I guess I should explain the "other" part of "Gorgeous Ugly" there are 18 screw holes on top of barrel. gun was built in 1935. It is a center fire action,so AW Peterson Gunsmith would put the 22 Rimfire bore off to the side to hit the rim to fire cartridge ,just how you do it . So the bore cocks from right to left. THEN you turn the barrel and mill the octagon so everything comes out straight. Quite the machine work. So the scope adjustments on the old Lyman style scopes were running out of adjustment. I took a 1/8x1.0x12" flat stock taped it onto top of barrel.Then set the scope on with the crosshairs centered for full scope adjustment. I bore sighted at the bull 50' away.then slid the scope or canted it so it also was on the bullseye. Marked it then made new bases to mount the Unertl bases onto and everything came out in line, with scope to bore . I have always wondered how all these guys just kept drilling holes and mounting more bases and ran out of scope adjustments and couldnt figure it out!. Like my post I did here on ..."Burris Rings the only way to go" Even thou the crosshairs were centered the bore was off enough to run out of adjustments. SO ...thats really where the Gorgeous ugly came in, cause this barrel on top is a mess ! LOL I could fill the holes file it down and reblue to look good,but does give the gun its character and story . didnt mean to be so long winded...maybe I should take a pic and post it.thanks guys.Pete

imdno said:

ok well Im glad i didnt try to slowly release that goes onto the din fitting of my scba tank... what would happen if i did ?

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That would work fine. You're only dealing with a small amount of air in the hose, the gun has a check valve, so a small pssst, and you're good to go.

I've used both types, a removeable direct mount that has a slot/pin -dicator for re mounting precisely is usually the most stable longterm. Large fixed mounted side wheels are more problematic during storage and not many range bags accommodate a six inch round side wheel...so that's where those magnetic detach sidewheel really shine. The Nautilus or Comma shaped wheels can be a solution for that because they can be low profile when stowed. All that said, setting up a scope, with mounts, eye relief, height, proper moa droop can be quite challenging and then a custom sidewheel... and range bag or caddy.... yeah you have to like a challenge, but I guess that's why we love shooting.

Can't go wrong with a used Brocock from a decent seller. They can be had for less than $1000 and you usually get your money back if you keep it in nice shape and you resell later. I would definetly stay away from the more pricey AEA models. I have owned 6 and they sit in my safe. Most,( not all) have crappy triggers. Whatever you get, buy the most gun you can find for the money. You will be glad you did rather than accumulating a bunch of cheaper guns and losing money on every one when you sell them later on for less than half of what you paid for them. Ask me how I know!

pepper51 said:

Curious, what is the minimum caliber or requirements to hunt the miniature monsters? It has always sounded like a great adventure to me.

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I'm not sure on minimum caliber but I went with a guide last year. I called the local police it's legal to hunt iguanas you don't need a guide you do need to call them and give them to make model and license plate of your car. I also called Florida game and fish and they said the same thing.

I really appreciate all the support from you guys on my 1st product drop. Reg Butter WILL make your gun perform better, especially in the cold! I take a lot of pride in this product and I've been making & using it myself for 20+ years. Now that I have the formula perfected, I'm offering it to the market at large. I already have a post about this in the classifieds, but I just dropped a video on my Reg Butter and here it is:


And here is the product description:

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Pick up a tin today and rev up the performance of that regulator!

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• De-gas your gun and ensure there is no residual pressure remaining before disassembly!
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• Take a dab of Reg Butter between your fingers and apply a modest layer onto your regulator piston head, taking special care to work a little bit of it in the recesses between any o-rings and the piston material. You can also butter up the piston shaft and even the Belleville washers or spring contact points.
• Reassemble your gun, gas it up, and watch your level of performance improve!

daddypaddy said:

should still be 21-24 stock setting shots but with the added fps

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Yeah, with the 15cc plenum MAYBE 1 or two extra. The plenum is regulated air. One shot it's not even at reg pressure.

Avator said:

Curious... had you tried to shoot it without the scope before you tore it down?

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I put maybe 2-3 shots through it and that was it. Sounded horrible. Now we know why - no lube and parts were just dragging and binding

Got the cheek riser finished and mounted today.

OldVet said:

How are doing. OldVet wants to know.

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thanks
I’ll see today , doctors appointment

That's the thing. It's easy to forget that most people do not know how to solder WELL. It is also one of those things that looks easier than what it actually is.
That's why I posted initially, and I too will drop this.
When you don't know how to solder, overheating is a very likely result.