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I have been looking at getting into 25 meter and perhaps 50 meter benchrest type shooting. I have been searching the rifle rigs. It looks to me like the basic entry rigs are based off of 10 meter competition rifle specifications. Many appear to be custom built, as I would expect, but for those that are "production" the more traditional 10 meter guns appear the base. However, it appears to to me that some transition taking place in the 50 meter type shooting events where more of the Daystate, FX etc seem to be coming onto favor compared to the more traditional players.

I get the other equipment from rimfire benchrest. The 1 piece stands etc. I understand what I do to do with the stocks and peripherals. What I do not have have clearly in my head is the air rifle profiles. In rimfire I would build of the action (RimX, etc.) or in production look to the likes of Anschutz etc. actions. Using quality subsonic ammo, etc. What is the profile of a 25 and 50 meter BR rifle?

Is this an accurate perception of the air rile profile here? If not, what would be a production entry into 25 meter benchrest look like. How would that be the same of different from a 50 meter air rifle benchrest rig?
 
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I have been looking at getting into 25 meter and perhaps 50 meter benchrest type shooting. I have been searching the rifle rigs. It looks to me like the basic entry rigs are based off of 10 meter competition rifle specifications. Many appear to be custom built, as I would expect, but for those that are "production" the more traditional 10 meter guns appear the base. However, it appears to to me that some transition taking place in the 50 meter type shooting events where more of the Daystate, FX etc seem to be coming onto favor compared to the more traditional players.

I get the other equipment from rimfire benchrest. The 1 piece stands etc. I understand what I do to do with the stocks and peripherals. What I do not have have clearly in my head is the air rifle profiles. In rimfire I would build of the action (RimX, etc.) or in production look to the likes of Anschutz etc. actions. Using quality subsonic ammo, etc. What is the profile of a 25 and 50 meter BR rifle?

Is this an accurate perception of the air rile profile here? If not, what would be a production entry into 25 meter benchrest look like. How would that be the same of different from a 50 meter air rifle benchrest rig?
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I've only been shooting benchrest for the last several months, and all of my experience is based on my club matches (a large/well established club). That being said, I'll give you my take on this, but I'm sure much more experienced AGN members will chime in. I also wonder what you are basing your impressions on?

Most of the folks shooting 25 meter (outdoor) in my club aren't shooting 10m based guns. Instead, they're shooting the typical players (FX, Daystate, Thomas, RAW, Benjamins, etc.) in .177 or .22. Since the max power levels in 25 meter are much higher than 10m, I don't know why one would use a 10m gun. You wrote they're using 10m guns that are heavily modified for 25m, but I don't know why they would do that when they can start with a base platform that is better suited. In my club, the only events where people are shooting 10m guns is in our indoor 50 foot matches, and of course 10m specific matches.

As to 50 yard matches, I still see those same common brand guns listed above, but more commonly in larger calibers (.22, .25 and .30). The commonly held belief is that heavier pellets are less effected by winds, so as the target distances increase, shooters gravitate towards the heavier pellet.

I'm in the US (Arizona, specifically). I wonder if other shooters in the rest of the world are more enamored with the brands like Anshutz, Steyr, Walther, etc., which are more focused on the 10m style rifle, so they choose those and modify them?

Hope this helps,

Todd
 
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I've only been shooting benchrest for the last several months, and all of my experience is based on my club matches (a large/well established club). That being said, I'll give you my take on this, but I'm sure much more experienced AGN members will chime in. I also wonder what you are basing your impressions on?

Most of the folks shooting 25 meter (outdoor) in my club aren't shooting 10m based guns. Instead, they're shooting the typical players (FX, Daystate, Thomas, RAW, Benjamins, etc.) in .177 or .22. Since the max power levels in 25 meter are much higher than 10m, I don't know why one would use a 10m gun. You wrote they're using 10m guns that are heavily modified for 25m, but I don't know why they would do that when they can start with a base platform that is better suited. In my club, the only events where people are shooting 10m guns is in our indoor 50 foot matches, and of course 10m specific matches.

As to 50 yard matches, I still see those same common brand guns listed above, but more commonly in larger calibers (.22, .25 and .30). The commonly held belief is that heavier pellets are less effected by winds, so as the target distances increase, shooters gravitate towards the heavier pellet.

I'm in the US (Arizona, specifically). I wonder if other shooters in the rest of the world are more enamored with the brands like Anshutz, Steyr, Walther, etc., which are more focused on the 10m style rifle, so they choose those and modify them?

Hope this helps,

Todd
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Thanks. When I search mostly stuff from England comes up. All I get are the extreme benchrest in USA and they discuss the 25 yard/meter group being pretty traditional.
 
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If you haven't done this yet, Google various 25m and 50 yard events across the country. Many will post results of the matches, along with the equipment they're shooting.
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Thanks. I have and I get England events and limited extreme BR in USA. The extreme BR talked about different equipment. It was why I asked here. I was just not getting much.
 
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While i agree that most 25 meter and 50 yd bench rest matches are shot with the standard go to rifles such as FX .RAW, Daystate etc.in 22, 177, and 25 cal. you will be amazed what the higher quality 10meter / 6lb rifles such as FWB, Walther, Anschutz etc. are capable of. At out club, we shoot our10 meter rifles out to 50 yds. at a FT with a 1/1/2inch kill zone.{with scopes } and have no problem knocking them down. we also shoot 25 yd bench rest with them shooting 10.34 gr pellets. I personally shoot a 1995 FWB C60 C02 that will shoot with the best of them. But for standard everyday Bench rest, stick to the rifles in the calibers i noted above.
 
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While i agree that most 25 meter and 50 yd bench rest matches are shot with the standard go to rifles such as FX .RAW, Daystate etc.in 22, 177, and 25 cal. you will be amazed what the higher quality 10meter / 6lb rifles such as FWB, Walther, Anschutz etc. are capable of. At out club, we shoot our10 meter rifles out to 50 yds. at a FT with a 1/1/2inch kill zone.{with scopes } and have no problem knocking them down. we also shoot 25 yd bench rest with them shooting 10.34 gr pellets. I personally shoot a 1995 FWB C60 C02 that will shoot with the best of them. But for standard everyday Bench rest, stick to the rifles in the calibers i noted above.
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Thanks.
 
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From what I have found most of the US matches are based on PCP guns of which I have no interest. There are few bench matches in Pa but there is a 10 meter Springer only bench match in my area. I shoot daily at 25 yards with my .177 springer, TX200. I shoot at loose leaf notebook paper reinforcement rings. Good groups, 5 shots, stay inside the hole that is .250. I am trying to get a 25 Springer bench match started here in Blair County, I have a few interested,we will see what happens.
 
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While i agree that most 25 meter and 50 yd bench rest matches are shot with the standard go to rifles such as FX .RAW, Daystate etc.in 22, 177, and 25 cal. you will be amazed what the higher quality 10meter / 6lb rifles such as FWB, Walther, Anschutz etc. are capable of. At out club, we shoot our10 meter rifles out to 50 yds. at a FT with a 1/1/2inch kill zone.{with scopes } and have no problem knocking them down. we also shoot 25 yd bench rest with them shooting 10.34 gr pellets. I personally shoot a 1995 FWB C60 C02 that will shoot with the best of them. But for standard everyday Bench rest, stick to the rifles in the calibers i noted above.
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1 1/2" kill zones at 50 yds. lol (can you hit the side of the barn wit dat?) . 1/4 inch groups at 50 are in the "competitive" aspect, and now your'e running with the rest of the herd. The big dogs are pissed if they dont hit an x every shot .
 
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USRBA targets are the same no matter which class you shoot, Springer, LV (<12 fpe),HV (<20 fpe), Open (<35 fpe), or Unlimited, which is basically Unlimited. We all shoot at the same time no matter what class, and we shoot 3 25 bull targets for an aggregate score possible of 750-75Xs. These targets are tight too... Plugs are used for scoring, which require lighted magnifiers. Must clubs shoot 25M, some also shoot 50 yard, or M. The USARB 50 requires a slightly larger target than the 25. Also very hard. European benchrest is nothing like US Benchrest. European is standing 10M with the rifle rested on a pod. A European "Benchrest" rifle, will not even be competitive in US Benchrest.

Major difference other than distance and target size for EBR is that in EBR you don't shoot 3 targets for an aggregate. If you suck on the first target you're done. Rules of the game, know them before you play.
 
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