Your ultimate versatile set up?

[donz]

@donz Huben is a great all around gun if you want a wide range of power that is easily adjustable and the ability to shoot slugs and pellets long-distance, but understand its drawbacks from a maintenance perspective. I think the Brocock Atomic would come in second in terms of adjustability. It has a transfer port adjustment knob that makes it easy to adjust the velocity up/down on the fly within a specific range. I wouldn’t expect anywhere near the power of a Huben from this little carbine pellet slinger. If you want a well balanced and durable air rifle that can shoot pellets with great consistency, has a proven track record, is compact, and has great product support and parts availability - I’d be looking at the AAA Evol mini. You may also want to consider the EDgun Leshiy 2. It’s foldable so it fits in a backpack well, can be set up for some pretty good power, has the ability to swap calibers, among other features. There are plenty of setups and configurations for the L2. I can’t say there’s a best or "ultimate" here, it really is a matter of preference, budget, and depends upon the spectrum of your intended use.

What are you seeking to do with an “ultimate versatile setup?”

What is the Huben maintenance like? I'm in San Diego with no repair places around...everything is shipped. That atomic and Evol look nice and compact. What do they shoot like? My usage will be plinking, small game, pesting up to a yote(rare)

 

[donz]

Just my experience but whenever I get something “versatile”, I end up not really using the versatility. For one, it’s not as simple as changing the barrel. Often needs the hammer weight changing, esp. if the caliber switch is big. Then there’s the retune and zeroing again. Then after changing to 30, some situation will arise where I need the 22. At some level, I thinks it better to go for one caliber (say 25) and change projectile/speed. Or just plan on having 4 PCP rifles, or 8 if you have separate slug and pellet guns, plus a few pistols, a couple big bores… and an arrow shooter (or two). Of course, if you’re on the road, thats not gonna work. Of all mine the Leshiy classic is the easiest to flip but they’re as rare as hens teeth. Tough as they come for the rigors of traveling too. FXs not so much IMHO.

Very good real world info to consider, thanks

 

[donz]

ultimately versatile...
No air needed
Pellets
Slugs
Scope
No scope
LDC available
Able to regulate velocity
Rifled barrel
Can shoot bbs...
No recoil...
....around $30 beginning...
...
The 880
What? Am I wrong?

Back to the ole slingshot

 

[donz]

Yea stuck at .22 caliber ... but what a range of output power is a few trigger input bumps away when in program mode.
@ 14 fpe to a tad over 40 fpe made in 12 programmable steps.
Rifle is quite light and easy to handle, accurate to a shooters fault, quiet & a high shot count.

Enter the realm of the DAYSTATE RED WOLF with a Heliboard

That looks trick!

 

[donz]

I like the Wolverine. I like the Vulcan 3. I like the Bantam Sniper….. But up to now, my preference, because all inclusive advantages, are the Sidewinders.

Wow, full auto in the sidewinder!

 

[donz]

As has been mentioned, the power versatility of the Huben is pretty much unmatched. Mine is a .22 and I've run it from about 5 FPE to about 60 FPE, and it is easy to adjust on the fly. Right now I have it set to max out about 35 FPE via the regulated level (only 95 bar) but it can do anything between that level and around 5 or so. I keep it loaded with 18.1s and it loves those. I dial it down to low power when taking out chipmunks close to the house, and simply adjust my holdover which I have tested out and know.

I have seen somebody that had their mag laser engraved with numbers for each slot, and I would like to do that at some point. With that, you could easily keep track of your mag slots and have 1-10 loaded with one pellet and 11-19 loaded with another and easily spin the mag to whichever you needed at the time. Then one could easily have a long distance high energy slug and short range low energy pellet loaded up and ready to go - flip the lever, spin the mag, and set the power wheel in just a few seconds. That would be really versatile . . . .

I for one don't think having to go back to the workbench to change out parts or retune is really that versatile . . . for me those guns all get set up one way and left alone for months before any changes get made.

That makes sense about the hassle of retuning and to have something ready to go. Does your Huben require much work?

 

[donz]

I would favor a wildcat mkIII tube over a dreamline/power pup all day long IMHO . But then you are a lil closer to the maverick compact haha.

As far as your Title = Your ultimate versatile set up . == I am still looking for this one after multiple years haha. I have not found it yet.

Just to throw this out there I actually like the brocock bantam hi-lite .22 unregulated better than any of the five dreamlines I have owned. If you do get a dreamline anyway and it is the bottle addition do not change the tanks out often, I have seen this on 4 of the five I had that the bottle adapter threads will Gaul/ fold rather quickly when switched under pressure I have one left that has started and will be buying a new adapter again. I received it in a trade of course haha. The way I have gotten around this through out the years is to very carefully bleed out the air and remove the bottle while there is no pressure at all on the threads. This takes care of the issue. Good luck on your hunt !

I will add a picture of another bottle adapter later to show this in a few I still have two old ones for parts in a junk box haha.

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Great info, thanks. The Bantam is dialed in, trouble free and shoots well, just a little low on power to be going more than 18gr jsb's.

 

[donz]

I would favor a wildcat mkIII tube over a dreamline/power pup all day long IMHO . But then you are a lil closer to the maverick compact haha.

As far as your Title = Your ultimate versatile set up . == I am still looking for this one after multiple years haha. I have not found it yet.

Just to throw this out there I actually like the brocock bantam hi-lite .22 unregulated better than any of the five dreamlines I have owned. If you do get a dreamline anyway and it is the bottle addition do not change the tanks out often, I have seen this on 4 of the five I had that the bottle adapter threads will Gaul/ fold rather quickly when switched under pressure I have one left that has started and will be buying a new adapter again. I received it in a trade of course haha. The way I have gotten around this through out the years is to very carefully bleed out the air and remove the bottle while there is no pressure at all on the threads. This takes care of the issue. Good luck on your hunt !

I will add a picture of another bottle adapter later to show this in a few I still have two old ones for parts in a junk box haha.

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Great info, thanks. The Bantam is dialed in, trouble free and shoots well, just a little low on power to be going more than 18gr jsb's.

Btw, what makes the Wildcat a better platform over the powerpup?

 

[swNCsw]

Btw, what makes the Wildcat a better platform over the powerpup?

JMHO The wildcat has a substantially more rigid platform , band a whole lot better / more natural feel to most shooters freehand is so much better when pesting. These are just my personal opinions here and can differ from shooter to shooter. Also in my opinion you will also suffer less instances of POI shift in the wildcat platform again due to the rigidity difference.

Milage may vary LOL. Just an honest opinion from my personal experiences . Best wishes in which ever you decide is more suitable for your needs.

 

[cavedweller]

I'm in search of more versatile set up, currently a Brocock bantam hi lite .22. and a HW80 springer. I travel alot and don't have much storage for multiple guns. Was thinking in terms of selling the bantam and picking up a Fx Power Pup in .22. This would give me the ability to shoot slugs plus the ability of adding a 30 cal.....something along those terms.

Or if you really want versatility buy a delta or alpha wolf used - have two calibers .177 and .30.
You can swap the calibers and tune in under 10 minutes! Ask me how I know.

 

[Ezana4CE]

What is the Huben maintenance like? I'm in San Diego with no repair places around...everything is shipped. That atomic and Evol look nice and compact. What do they shoot like? My usage will be plinking, small game, pesting up to a yote(rare)

@donz Huben maintenance is different. They shoot like PCP airguns. Do you have a specific caliber that you'd like? Have you ever hunted and killed a coyote?

Read through the threads in the links below.

Huben https://www.airgunnation.com/threads/all-things-huben-k1.1284752/

Atomic https://www.airgunnation.com/threads/the-atomic-goes-nuclear-first-kills.1213740/

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[iAMzehTOASTY1]

Back to the ole slingshot

I have one

 

[john8]

The K1 is the answer, easily adjusted, quiet, reliable, robust, good looking, great service from Kelly. I've got 3 of them, one in .177, .22 and .25, the .177 is a custom by Kelly. The .177 is my favorite but if I could have one it would be in .22. All three of the rifles are not ammo picky. Hammerless is the wave of the future and it's now with the K1s.

 

[Trucker3573]

Just my experience but whenever I get something “versatile”, I end up not really using the versatility. For one, it’s not as simple as changing the barrel. Often needs the hammer weight changing, esp. if the caliber switch is big. Then there’s the retune and zeroing again. Then after changing to 30, some situation will arise where I need the 22. At some level, I thinks it better to go for one caliber (say 25) and change projectile/speed. Or just plan on having 4 PCP rifles, or 8 if you have separate slug and pellet guns, plus a few pistols, a couple big bores… and an arrow shooter (or two). Of course, if you’re on the road, thats not gonna work. Of all mine the Leshiy classic is the easiest to flip but they’re as rare as hens teeth. Tough as they come for the rigors of traveling too. FXs not so much IMHO.

This is really truth here. I have a Maverick compact and really like the tune I have on it for 25 cal JSB 25.39 and hades pellets. Have thought many times about getting a 22 cal compact barrel and probe but just can’t get myself to pull the trigger. I don’t think I would have to make any drastic changes to the tune and still would rather just have another gun. If I were you and you went FX I would get a Maverick or wildcat BT over the power pup. You can get the vp model for about the same as the power pup and I just think they are a better bullpup platform.

 

[Arzrover]

It's a close contest with my Red Wolf + Heliboard or my Delta Wolf. I have 177 standard, 177 poly, 22 standard and poly, 25 , and 30 barrels for both plus a 20 for the DW. It is 2 screws to change caliber on the DW and 4 on the RW. The RW needs the scope removed to change barrels, the DW...not.The tune change for caliber or projectile is under 1 minute... really it's under 30 seconds most of the time. I change them regularly and the zeros are never far off from one caliber to the next. We're talking 10 ft lb in 177 to over 100 in 30 in a couple of minutes. I can fine tune velocities at any point in a few seconds. They are both as accurate as anything I've shot in most of the setups... depending on ammo, of course. They're both reasonably light, depending on scope choice and well made/durable and have few orings.

I guess the most versatile would be the DW, as it has an onboard chrono to ease the setup and is also more compact.

All are fun, even if they're not versatile...
Bob

 

[qball]

Versatility depends on what is the range of use cases you need the versatility to be and how much work to achieve the versatility. If you don’t want to change a thing and just shoot around your back yard then a springer might be the ultimate, literally nothing you need or can do for the most part besides shooting it.

FLEXIBILITY on the other hand the crown I say goes to impact still with the Crown being second. They can go long, short, high or low power, it can be just about anything you want it to be with some barrels and tuning. I’ve literally had mine configured in more ways than I can count, all the way from my backyard squirrel killer to 300 yard long range slinger.

 

[donz]

How can the power output be stabilized at 900FPS?
I adjusted the second pressure gauge to 14MPa, the power wheel to 22, using .22/14.3gr particles, the output range is always between 870FPS ~ 910FPS, I want to stabilize at 880FPS ~ 900FPS, has been debugged for a long time, not yet Stablize.

Heads up, think this got posted to the wrong thread

 

[Long_Gun_Dallas]

16, 33, 50, or 92 fpe or anywhere inbetween depending on settings and barrel. 380mm stxsl 22 cal pellet barrel, 500m St 22 cal pellet barrel, 500mm stsxsl superior 22 cal slug/pellet barrel, 600 stx superior 30 cal pellet/slug barrel

Another form of versatility.
Packs down small. Unlimited shot count. 585fps with 14.3gr @ ten pumps

Or ~ 100 shots @ 15fpe, integrated moderator, extremely accurate. Also has carbine stock.

Not sure what kind of versatility you're looking for, but there are many kinds.

 

[iAMzehTOASTY1]

16, 33, 50, or 92 fpe or anywhere inbetween depending on settings and barrel. 380mm stxsl 22 cal pellet barrel, 500m St 22 cal pellet barrel, 500mm stsxsl superior 22 cal slug/pellet barrel, 600 stx superior 30 cal pellet/slug barrel
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Another form of versatility.
Packs down small. Unlimited shot count. 585fps with 14.3gr @ ten pumps

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Or ~ 100 shots @ 15fpe, integrated moderator, extremely accurate. Also has carbine stock.
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Not sure what kind of versatility you're looking for, but there are many kinds.

@markhooper check out that pistola!

 

[jetpopt]

ultimately versatile...
No air needed
Pellets
Slugs
Scope
No scope
LDC available
Able to regulate velocity
Rifled barrel
Can shoot bbs...
No recoil...
....around $30 beginning...
...
The 880
What? Am I wrong?

Only thing wrong is that they cost more than $30 now. Like a whopping $60!!!!! BEST $60 I ever spent!