Is it a bad move getting a strong water pump when outlets are not the best Yong already eats all the watts. Outlet cut out 1 time at 30 mins.

[MarksmanPete]

So im in between a water pump of around 200 gallons an Ive got this one,https://www.amazon.com/Aysoner-Submersible-Fountain-Water-Pump/dp/B09QFS1BWY/ref=sxts_rp_s_a_1_0?content-id=amzn1.sym.3432eb1a-1558-4445-9430-9bb3e7f7b9b7:amzn1.sym.3432eb1a-1558-4445-9430-9bb3e7f7b9b7&crid=LHV0FOGZLZV3&cv_ct_cx=water+pump&keywords=water+pump&pd_rd_i=B09QFS1BWY&pd_rd_r=dbd0796f-5eac-4d01-bf6c-2e35231a409d&pd_rd_w=pSOKy&pd_rd_wg=fUVq2&pf_rd_p=3432eb1a-1558-4445-9430-9bb3e7f7b9b7&pf_rd_r=9QNPTZZF0FBNTSYQKXDF&qid=1684394554&sbo=RZvfv//HxDF+O5021pAnSA==&sprefix=water+pum,aps,176&sr=1-1-5985efba-8948-4f09-9122-d605505c9d1e My yong heng one time shut off 40 mins in when I first got it like a week ago I was running the 550 gallon pump and was filling my bottle and just at about 2000 psi It shut off, Outlets are not too strong older house, Should I go for lower gallons per hour on my water pump it must have been taking up a bit too much voltage an I dont notice increase in flow when I adjust it , Is it harmfull to the motor if im taking away power from the outlet it says the yong heng runs at 1800 watts thats a good and I dont know about adding on a pump thats overkill maybe I should downgrade? if it dont get all its power out of it anyway as the tubes have a limited inner diameter, I did notice with this one it pumps like crazy, its a little steady stream even when the bucket is below compressor, But it didnt shut off any more after that one time at like the 40 minut mark.

 

[steve-l]

So im in between a water pump of around 200 gallons an Ive got this one, My yong heng one time shut off 40 mins in when I first got it like a week ago I was running the 550 gallon with the pump under 2000 psi It shut off, Outlets are not too strong older house, Should I go for lower gallons per hour, Is it harmfull to the motor? if it dont get all its power I did notice with this one it pumps like crazy little steady stream even bucket below compressor, But it didnt shut off any more after that.

WOW. Your comment is really hard to understand. First, water pumps are rated in volume over time at a certain pressure (head). Second, if you run a Youg Heng for 40 minutes, you will kill it in short order. Third, I don't know what you mean "if the motor does not get all its power" Is line voltage low? Are you popping a fuse? Is the motor overheating? Perhaps I am assuming incorrectly that the reason the compressor is not shutting off is that it is not reaching shut off pressure. If so, you have probably already killed the compressor.

Here is a tip, if you compress a gas, you have to dissipate the heat that allowed the said gas to occupy the original volume it occupied. Just as compressed gasses must absorb heat to expand to a greater volume. Ultimately the difference between a professional compressor and a Chinese special is its ability to shed that heat and its duty cycle or lack of it.

 

[delooper]

Are you hooking your Yong Heng up to a pressure washer? A 2000 psi water source sounds a little extreme.

 

[MarksmanPete]

WOW. Your comment is really hard to understand. First, water pumps are rated in volume over time at a certain pressure (head). Second, if you run a Youg Heng for 40 minutes, you will kill it in short order. Third, I don't know what you mean "if the motor does not get all its power" Is line voltage low? Are you popping a fuse? Is the motor overheating? Perhaps I am assuming incorrectly that the reason the compressor is not shutting off is that it is not reaching shut off pressure. If so, you have probably already killed the compressor.

Here is a tip, if you compress a gas, you have to dissipate the heat that allowed the said gas to occupy the original volume it occupied. Just as compressed gasses must absorb heat to expand to a greater volume. Ultimately the difference between a professional compressor and a Chinese special is its ability to shed that heat and its duty cycle or lack of it.

My bad for the wording okay I fixed it check it out

 

[MarksmanPete]

WOW. Your comment is really hard to understand. First, water pumps are rated in volume over time at a certain pressure (head). Second, if you run a Youg Heng for 40 minutes, you will kill it in short order. Third, I don't know what you mean "if the motor does not get all its power" Is line voltage low? Are you popping a fuse? Is the motor overheating? Perhaps I am assuming incorrectly that the reason the compressor is not shutting off is that it is not reaching shut off pressure. If so, you have probably already killed the compressor.

Here is a tip, if you compress a gas, you have to dissipate the heat that allowed the said gas to occupy the original volume it occupied. Just as compressed gasses must absorb heat to expand to a greater volume. Ultimately the difference between a professional compressor and a Chinese special is its ability to shed that heat and its duty cycle or lack of it.

I dont know its an older house an the outlets aint the strongest the power on the outlet blew for a few minutes I had the yong heng an the 800 gallon water pump plugged into that outlet, Should I downgrade maybe on the pump would it be beneficial for the unit as the pump motor draws a good bit of power id think the wire is pretty fat not as fat as the yong hengs I aint no electrician but im wondering.

 

[MarksmanPete]

Are you hooking your Yong Heng up to a pressure washer? A 2000 psi water source sounds a little extreme.

No my bad for the wording I mean I blew a fuse for a few minutes due to me pluggin in the yong heng an the pump to the same outlet, But that has not scince happened in over 1 hour of run time, But I want to possibly add a fan an that will take up a bit more wattage Im in between a usb to extrnal power source fan an a ragular plug fan in in between I dont know which to get, as well as my pump might need a downgrade I aint tryna blow a fuse at 4000 psi dat would be asss id have to start up all again.

 

[madeintheuk]

Ok, so let’s tackle one part at a time. First, if you’re that close to the output of your outlet, you’re using a 15amp circuit, and this could prematurely damage the motor on your compressor. I would worry about that before worrying about a larger water pump. Find an outlet in your house that is on a 20amp breaker. This will guarantee not to overheat that little electric motor that pulls so much juice. Then use a different circuit for your pump if you can. Run an extension chord if you have to.

I use my washing machine plug because I know it’s a 20amp breaker. There could be others, but the washer is usually a definite unless you have a stackable washer dryer that only used 240volr

 

[rcs9250]

I’m not an engineer, nor do I have a background in thermodynamics. But a long time ago I learned something very dramatically about cooling. I had an AMC Gremlin that was overheating. I did not know the root cause of the overheating so I thought a logical fix was to remove the thermostatic valve to increase the flow of coolant. Wrong. I learned that the water needed a dwell time of sorts to absorb (the proper word is probably adsorb)the heat produced by the engine.
Just wonder if the same applies to the water cooled compressors. Is there a limit of how much water should be forced through at velocity?

 

[MarksmanPete]

I’m not an engineer, nor do I have a background in thermodynamics. But a long time ago I learned something very dramatically about cooling. I had an AMC Gremlin that was overheating. I did not know the root cause of the overheating so I thought a logical fix was to remove the thermostatic valve to increase the flow of coolant. Wrong. I learned that the water needed a dwell time of sorts to absorb (the proper word is probably adsorb)the heat produced by the engine.
Just wonder if the same applies to the water cooled compressors. Is there a limit of how much water should be forced through at velocity?

I mean when I run this pump it cools the thing down bigtime I run a 5 gallon bucket with very soft tap water and I just got like 20 purified water bottles popped the cap just to let the air out so the plastic would have contact with the water at all time its like those freeze packs an I just dump like 8 water bottles in an I got 12 more in the fridge I aint ever used my yong heng to that extent yet but I think its best to run as much as you can the cylinder shaped part under toe top nut gets cold like 30 seconds aftrer I stop the compressor just cuz the water pump is running. But I might downgrade the pump this house is old I cant even find a single 20 amp outlet I got washer an drier but Im not tryng to go there every time to fill.

 

[MarksmanPete]

Ok, so let’s tackle one part at a time. First, if you’re that close to the output of your outlet, you’re using a 15amp circuit, and this could prematurely damage the motor on your compressor. I would worry about that before worrying about a larger water pump. Find an outlet in your house that is on a 20amp breaker. This will guarantee not to overheat that little electric motor that pulls so much juice. Then use a different circuit for your pump if you can. Run an extension chord if you have to.

I use my washing machine plug because I know it’s a 20amp breaker. There could be others, but the washer is usually a definite unless you have a stackable washer dryer that only used 240volr

Here is the thing I dont got any 20 amp ones I checked all around kitchen even bathrooms Nope, it says it runs at 1800 watts but 110 volt 15 amp outlet can handle just that it says online

 

[MarksmanPete]

Ok, so let’s tackle one part at a time. First, if you’re that close to the output of your outlet, you’re using a 15amp circuit, and this could prematurely damage the motor on your compressor. I would worry about that before worrying about a larger water pump. Find an outlet in your house that is on a 20amp breaker. This will guarantee not to overheat that little electric motor that pulls so much juice. Then use a different circuit for your pump if you can. Run an extension chord if you have to.

I use my washing machine plug because I know it’s a 20amp breaker. There could be others, but the washer is usually a definite unless you have a stackable washer dryer that only used 240volr

Thats bad news prematurely damage my motor, Hope I didnt already but then I got 3 year plan an il know what to do on my next yong heng right, in the house you can run a computer an some other stuff an someone in the kitchen can be using the air fryer or toaster an the fuse blows you have to hit it on the circut breaker turn it back on old ass house, Well I ran it over an hour after no problems I will defnatly get the water pump downgraded I turned off all lights an everything that used high electricity an turned off all lights used a headlamp cuz I knew the house is not the best with power its older home. Should I be good as long as I turn off all the surounding stuff an lights even and run the pump from a diffrent outlet, can I get off with 15 or what,

 

[Stubbers]

I’m not an engineer, nor do I have a background in thermodynamics. But a long time ago I learned something very dramatically about cooling. I had an AMC Gremlin that was overheating. I did not know the root cause of the overheating so I thought a logical fix was to remove the thermostatic valve to increase the flow of coolant. Wrong. I learned that the water needed a dwell time of sorts to absorb (the proper word is probably adsorb)the heat produced by the engine.
Just wonder if the same applies to the water cooled compressors. Is there a limit of how much water should be forced through at velocity?

Yes, thermal exchange rate is low with increased flow, if you take a pot of water on your stove and constantly exchange it, it will take much longer to come to a boil than sitting water, now of course we dont' want sitting water in our compressors, but the concept remains. Slow flow is far better at extracting heat than fast flow.

 

[madeintheuk]

15amp outlet is pushing it. Even with everything turned off. 1800w at 120volts is 15amps. A 15amp circuit is designed to run at 80% for constant draw. That’s 13amps. The compressor needs more power than that. The breaker/fuse will hold for a little bit, but eventually overheat and low. You have to ask yourself, if you’re overloading a circuit in a house with old wiring and already overpowering the circuit, what do you think is happening to the wires in your walls? Keep it up if you want a house fire. At the very least, you’ll damage your yong heng. It sounds like it’s a convenience thing for you. If you don’t want to run it in the washer outlet, you need an electrician to give you a designated outlet in the area you want it running.
That’s my 2cents as a residential electrician. Take it for what it’s worth!

 

[rcs9250]

I mean when I run this pump it cools the thing down bigtime I run a 5 gallon bucket with very soft tap water and I just got like 20 purified water bottles popped the cap just to let the air out so the plastic would have contact with the water at all time its like those freeze packs an I just dump like 8 water bottles in an I got 12 more in the fridge I aint ever used my yong heng to that extent yet but I think its best to run as much as you can the cylinder shaped part under toe top nut gets cold like 30 seconds aftrer I stop the compressor just cuz the water pump is running. But I might downgrade the pump this house is old I cant even find a single 20 amp outlet I got washer an drier but Im not tryng to go there every time to fill.

Would a quality 12ga extension cord from the drier work so you don’t have to drag your compressor to the washer ?

 

[Gerry52]

AQUARIUM PUMP my friend, NOT fountain pump. Reminds me of Tim Taylor/Tool Time, MORE POWER! Maybe you're lucky your outlet cut out at 30 MINUTES!! How long, at a time, do you run your YH? 15-18 minutes at a time with a cool off break is kind of "rule of thumb" for these compressors if you want them to last!

 

[MarksmanPete]

AQUARIUM PUMP my friend, NOT fountain pump. Reminds me of Tim Taylor/Tool Time, MORE POWER! Maybe you're lucky your outlet cut out at 30 MINUTES!! How long, at a time, do you run your YH? 15-18 minutes at a time with a cool off break is kind of "rule of thumb" for these compressors if you want them to last!

I did 15 mins cap yea let cool for a hour or so and then switched outlets to a diffrent room still a 110 volt 15 amp outlet but other one blew a fuse just that one time,.

 

[MarksmanPete]

AQUARIUM PUMP my friend, NOT fountain pump. Reminds me of Tim Taylor/Tool Time, MORE POWER! Maybe you're lucky your outlet cut out at 30 MINUTES!! How long, at a time, do you run your YH? 15-18 minutes at a time with a cool off break is kind of "rule of thumb" for these compressors if you want them to last!

Wait so I got the wrong kind of pump? Im suppose to get an aquarium pump not the one I got?

 

[MarksmanPete]

15amp outlet is pushing it. Even with everything turned off. 1800w at 120volts is 15amps. A 15amp circuit is designed to run at 80% for constant draw. That’s 13amps. The compressor needs more power than that. The breaker/fuse will hold for a little bit, but eventually overheat and low. You have to ask yourself, if you’re overloading a circuit in a house with old wiring and already overpowering the circuit, what do you think is happening to the wires in your walls? Keep it up if you want a house fire. At the very least, you’ll damage your yong heng. It sounds like it’s a convenience thing for you. If you don’t want to run it in the washer outlet, you need an electrician to give you a designated outlet in the area you want it running.
That’s my 2cents as a residential electrician. Take it for what it’s worth!

If I get a house fire at least I dont own I rent screw the landlord he dont wanna upgrade the power its gonna cost him but thats landlord work for ya. Imma grab my good shyt an carry it out real quick im strong an fast so id get all I care about only got 2 bottles my yong heng BAM BAM BAM Land lord dont seem to wanna upgrade the power in the old house it will cost him a good bit an its not an issue for a ragular person who dont own couple strong computers or compressors it will be a hefty costs for him , Already had fuses blow an elctriciants came in couple times before yong heng just running computers an some stuff upstairs like an air fryer or something an a water heater and 2 computers simontaniously it sometimes cut out this one switch an youd always just click it back on an deal with all the progress you lost on whatever work you did on the computer. but thats if you run 2 computers next to each other not on the same outlet just same area one was in hallway one was in the room, But Man this compressor really takes up POWER Okay let me see what I can do I got a portable yong heng setup but im looking for a plug Should I get a 220 volt extension one, Other time landlord was fixing a blown wire in my room the outlet that I run the yong heng on for over an hour with the pump no problems I had so much stuff connected I was running a blowdried I was running a computer and I was running an a air purifier an that blew but they fixed it.

 

[JimD]

Several things may not be clear. The Yong Heng is rated to run at 1800 W which is all 15A of a 15 amp circuit. It leaves nothing for other things like a computer and air purifier. If you want to run it on a 15A circuit it may work but it won't if you hang several other loads on the same circuit. If the breaker doesn't flip (or the fuse blow) the voltage will dip and that can damage everything powered by that circuit.

The dryer should be 220V if it's electric but the washer should be 120V. An advantage of this circuit is it should be the only load on that circuit - and it may even be 20A.

The water cooling is only for the second stage of the YH. The first stage and the electric motor are cooled by the fan on the end of the motor. The pump should be small like an aquarium uses and should be a minimal load. Fraction of an amp. If you want to add a fan to help the one on the motor, it should be plugged into another circuit unless the circuit is 20A. Then it should be fine but check the amp requirement. I run my YH on a 20A circuit with the coolant pump and a couple very small fans behind the radiator for the cooling water and I just ordered a small fan to help the one on the motor. A 20A circuit can do all this but the loads other than the YH can't exceed 5A - shouldn't be a problem with the right "extras".

Most of us keep our YH runs to 20 minutes or less but the bigger deal is the temperature. You cannot exceed 70 C safely and I try to limit it to 60 C.

Any time you flip a breaker or pop a fuse you need to figure out why and not do it any more. The protective devices are to avoid you overheating the wire in the house and starting a fire. You don't want to keep flipping a breaker and hoping nothing bad happens.

 

[Mr_Potatoes]

15amp outlet is pushing it. Even with everything turned off. 1800w at 120volts is 15amps. A 15amp circuit is designed to run at 80% for constant draw. That’s 13amps. The compressor needs more power than that. The breaker/fuse will hold for a little bit, but eventually overheat and low. You have to ask yourself, if you’re overloading a circuit in a house with old wiring and already overpowering the circuit, what do you think is happening to the wires in your walls? Keep it up if you want a house fire. At the very least, you’ll damage your yong heng. It sounds like it’s a convenience thing for you. If you don’t want to run it in the washer outlet, you need an electrician to give you a designated outlet in the area you want it running.
That’s my 2cents as a residential electrician. Take it for what it’s worth!

I'd like to clarify for others, as you would agree, the 13 amp you are referring to is "continuous load". A 15 amp circuit can be run at 15 amp draw for less than 2 hours. a 13amp draw on a 15 amp circuit can run indefinitely. In an older house the problem isn't the wiring itself, it would be each connection between the utilization equipment and the panel. These connections loosen over time and this is where the risk of fire comes from. If the wiring is from the 1940's I would suggest not using these circuits entirely if they are Knob&tube. My home is knob&tube wiring and my solution is to run my yongheng off a receptacle on the side of my electrical panel on its own breaker. My domestic water line is in the same vicinity so I tapped into it with a refrigerator ice maker kit. this gives me 55ish degree F cooling water for the yong heng.