My M3 is underperforming…

So I’ve noticed that my M3 is underperforming compared to a friends M3 at the range. I’m at 121 bar and pushing 24.8 .218 NSAs at 1002 FPS but my hammer spring is at 4.8ish.


My friend for comparison is pushing 27 grain .217 NSAs at 990 and only at 110 bar.

What’s weirder is that I have the power block and tungsten hammer and he has neither.

What’s goin on here?
 
Tungsten hammer weight might be too heavy for 121Bar. What barrel lengths are you comparing? We had some issues with my buddy's M3 trying to use the Tungsten hammer weight. Took it out for the factory heavy hammer and re-tuned the rifle from square one and speeds landed right where we wanted with single digit extreme spreads. Are you using a chronograph? Have you tested velocity at different hammer settings to verify you have control of the hammer system? We found we were hitting the valve waaaay too hard at any setting with the tungsten even at 160Bar.
 
Tungsten hammer weight might be too heavy for 121Bar. What barrel lengths are you comparing? We had some issues with my buddy's M3 trying to use the Tungsten hammer weight. Took it out for the factory heavy hammer and re-tuned the rifle from square one and speeds landed right where we wanted with single digit extreme spreads. Are you using a chronograph? Have you tested velocity at different hammer settings to verify you have control of the hammer system? We found we were hitting the valve waaaay too hard at any setting with the tungsten even at 160Bar.
It’s a 700mm barrel. But wouldn’t the velocity be more if I’m smacking the hammer really hard?
 
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I dont totally understand why but you can actually slow down if you over extend the valve. It can also cause wild fps swings. The FX tungsten is like 13.7-14 grams and the stock FX is like 6-7 grams. I have the Huma power kit in mine and it comes with a 6.6 and 7.5 gram or something close to that. Id be willing to bet 500 internet points that your speeds are erratic and you wont be able to change your fps much using the power wheel. I would try swapping in the stock weight or something in the 7-10 gram range. The tungsten is really good if you want to max your regs out and only shoot heavy slugs. Otherwise its too much hammer for middle range reg settings.
 
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I dont totally understand why but you can actually slow down if you over extend the valve. It can also cause wild fps swings. The FX tungsten is like 13.7-14 grams and the stock FX is like 6-7 grams. I have the Huma power kit in mine and it comes with a 6.6 and 7.5 gram or something close to that. Id be willing to bet 500 internet points that your speeds are erratic and you wont be able to change your fps much using the power wheel. I would try swapping in the stock weight or something in the 7-10 gram range. The tungsten is really good if you want to max your regs out and only shoot heavy slugs. Otherwise its too much hammer for middle range reg settings.
Well my speeds are fairly consistent actually. 1002, 1004, 1002. But you are right about the macro wheel not changin much…


This is from power 11-16 on macro.

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Well my speeds are fairly consistent actually. 1002, 1004, 1002. But you are right about the macro wheel not changin much…


This is from power 11-16 on macro.

997 1000 1004 1002 1004 1007
That's a problem I'm sure. Like others have mentioned try going to the lighter hammer first and see.
 
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Well my speeds are fairly consistent actually. 1002, 1004, 1002. But you are right about the macro wheel not changin much…


This is from power 11-16 on macro.

997 1000 1004 1002 1004 1007
You’re all out of gas at #11 on the wheel. I hope you have your gun set on #9 or #8 when you are actually shooting.
 
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I'm running a 8.85 gram hammer on my .22 impact 700mm and it opens the valve sufficiently at 170 bar on the regulator shooting 24.8 gr. Slugs . I run a 9.3 gram hammer on my .25 impact 700mm at 170 bar with 33 gr. Slugs. The only guns that required a tungsten hammer (14.5 grams) were my .30 and .35 Impacts with the regulators set at 170 bar using heavier projectiles. The tungsten hammer is way too heavy and not needed for what you are doing. You want the valve to shut right before the projectile leaves the barrel. If it closes late because of the extra hammer weight, the extra air can cause your accuracy to suffer. And you waste air on top of that.
 
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What happens is that the super heavy strike immediate opens the valve fully and then crashes back off the frame, allowing the valve to shut an instant later, releasing little air. Sooner, rather than later, that much hammer with so little reg pressure will damage the valve. As other said, Tungsten is only needed to open a valve that has a wall of 170+bar air keeping it closed. With a long barrel and such light slugs you should be running a pussy cat tune. With stock hammer (still way more than enough for your goal!), I’d go for 130 reg, open the valve knob fully and set the macro at its highest (then forget about it). Chrony shots starting from 2.0 on the micro. Click micro up 2 at a time till you reach your desired speed +10fps. Then incrementally close the valve knob (clockwise) until you lose that extra 10fps. That ensures that the valve is providing a short burst of air). Now, lots of folks are confused about this: The macro simply jogs the micro 5 clicks at a time. Play with it and watch the micro! Its utility is to find “presets” to use for different ammo at desired speeds. It allows the use of one tune to shoot different projectiles. You find their desired speed via trial and error and note the macro settings for each ammo (like macro 16 for your slugs and macro 5 for hades at 890fps). A bit like using channel presets on an old car radio. You can simply slip between slugs and hades by turning the macro, then go back to slugs, etc. The catch is that your primary tune (which is associated with the necessary reg pressure) should always be developed for your heaviest projectile. You can’t use this method to macro click to heavier/faster (more power; because that might require more reg pressure). That why I recommended tuning for the slug on the highest macro setting.
 
I’ve got these 4 hammers. Which shall I use? Goes from .177 to .30 cal. I’m thinking .30 cal hammer

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