So Many Different Rifles

[Weste]

I posted this comment over a week ago and have not received any comments.

"We are all prisoners of our experiences. My first air rifle was a springer Winchester/Daisy model 1000. I inherited it from a dear friend who passed away from cancer this spring. I put a scope on it and it is working well. I then purchased a Ruger Blackhawk/Umarex springer. The scope didn't work so I put a Hawke 2 X 7 scope on it and it is coming along."

How is an air gun newby supposed to understand the myriad of makes and models, especially when most of the posts give a model number but not a manufacturer. Or is confusion the intent?

 

[Sqwirl57]

Sorry to hear about your friend. I'm not understanding your question(s) though. What exactly are you trying to figure out/understand?

 

[houston]

Research & Research.

 

[baranjhn]

….. How is an air gun newby supposed to understand the myriad of makes and models, especially when most of the posts give a model number but not a manufacturer. Or is confusion the intent?

Believing that people are purposing trying to be confusing is the wrong way to look at it.

Airguns have been around for over 400 years. In the last century to now there have been myriads of them produced. Some models are so ubiquitous that there in no need to mention the manufacturer.

The best way is to research. Read the forum, watch YouTube, ask questions.

Try going to the retailers and manufactures linked sites here on AGN.

 

[Long_Gun_Dallas]

Basically do your homework. As thoroughly as you can. And once done, if you still have questions, ask.

Most people see no need to list manufacturer because most people that are into the hobby know what it is. Also, it's pretty rare any make is shared with another manufacturer...

Brocock atomic is a bit confusing because there are at least two of them. Same manufacturer, same model name. Nothing about the two is remotely the same besides being an air gun with the same names. I guess it's like a continuation of the name in a completely new model.

 

[ctshooter]

How is an air gun newby supposed to understand the myriad of makes and models, especially when most of the posts give a model number but not a manufacturer. Or is confusion the intent?

There is no intent. 7-8 years ago when I got back into airguns I was just as confused as you. Read threads and browse airgun store websites. It can take a few months but you catch on to the models and the lingo.

 

[WorriedMan]

Weste,
Hard to improve on the excellent tips offered. Suppose any hobby is confusing in the beginning, Matt Dubber's video series, "Air Gun Ballistics, 101," was a help to me, might be worth a look. WM

 

[marflow 777]

so, i am going to suggest something different
now most of us don't know it all, we know what we call rabbit hole, a model or make of a certain gun and there are a thousand rabbit hole or more
so, the learning curve is impossible
read as many forums as you can some are rather dead and some like this one are not and there is one in the UK that is very good
now my suggestion is buy the currant Blus Book, it is a short 1000 pages and has picture and info and i could not do without mine
go to Pyramyd Air and see what is for sale and what is now for sale will be replaced with new offerings and over time you will learn
if you see a question and have no idea what it is about try to find out, google is your friend
there is no right way or wrong way but you have to work at it
i am learning every day and i am 73

 

[Northwoods22]

I posted this comment over a week ago and have not received any comments.

"We are all prisoners of our experiences. My first air rifle was a springer Winchester/Daisy model 1000. I inherited it from a dear friend who passed away from cancer this spring. I put a scope on it and it is working well. I then purchased a Ruger Blackhawk/Umarex springer. The scope didn't work so I put a Hawke 2 X 7 scope on it and it is coming along."

How is an air gun newby supposed to understand the myriad of makes and models, especially when most of the posts give a model number but not a manufacturer. Or is confusion the intent?

We tend to abbreviate things this way, and it can indeed be confusing. Here's what I do.

I was shooting my D48, and my HW98 yesterday. Some people will know what I'm referring to immediately, others not. Go to whatever your preferred online search engine is, be it Google, Bing, Duck Duck Go, or whatever. Type in "model D48 airgun", or "model HW98 airgun", and hit enter. In nearly every case, you'll find that this specific word combination with the model # in between will give you your answer.

In this case, you'll see I'm referring to a Diana 48 and a Weihrauch HW98. Then once you have your answer, you can read up on the gun at a retailer website or the manufacturer's site, or select images from your search engine menu and you'll get plenty of photos of what said model looks like with site links as well, including info on out of production guns. It's simple, and it works nearly every time.

I've been into airguns for the better part of 4 decades, yet I still have to look things up this way, and I discover some airgun or variant I never knew existed on a regular basis. And if you still get stumped, just ask hey, what the heck is a D48?

 

[cavedweller]

I posted this comment over a week ago and have not received any comments.

"We are all prisoners of our experiences. My first air rifle was a springer Winchester/Daisy model 1000. I inherited it from a dear friend who passed away from cancer this spring. I put a scope on it and it is working well. I then purchased a Ruger Blackhawk/Umarex springer. The scope didn't work so I put a Hawke 2 X 7 scope on it and it is coming along."

How is an air gun newby supposed to understand the myriad of makes and models, especially when most of the posts give a model number but not a manufacturer. Or is confusion the intent?

Most importantly is your intent - what will the gun be used for? Form follows function and more power or a bigger caliber isn’t always the answer

 

[Kilmouski]

I did not see the original post. In response, I would say that the problem with getting into air-gunning is that there are so many different types of airguns and a distinct lack of comprehensive books about the subject. So, most of us resort to reading anything and everything, we can find to learn about the topic. In addition to the many different types of airguns one may also need to learn about compressed air, and how to manage it, if they choose PCP rifles and pistols. (Or perhaps even bulk CO2.)

Interestingly, many of the existing books about air-gunning are decidedly out of date....many from the early 2000's, and back- way back.

Protek lists 54 of those older Airgun books for sale...

54-airgun-books

There is an old post on Airgun Nation, called the Airgun guide for dummies...

Airgun guide for Dummies. A comprehensive reference if you are getting started

The following post is intended as a detailed general guide to categories of air guns and how they function to help those who are curious but know next to nothing. This post covers the many conversations I’ve had with powder-burning acquaintances at my club who marvel in disbelief at the...

www.airgunnation.com

I would suggest reading anything, and everything you can find about the sport of Airgunning. Even the older books can be helpful. To illustrate how much I read about the topic of competitive shooting, I spent several minutes gathering some of the
shooting books (which includes airgun competition) in my home that were readily at hand. Essentially, I read everything I can get my hands on....

 

[Chuck-in-Ohio]

Most importantly is your intent - what will the gun be used for? Form follows function and more power or a bigger caliber isn’t always the answer

This is good advice.

Research conducted along the lines of what you intend or expect out of your air rifle will invariably narrow the search for you.
Local conditions, type of airgun preferred, expected prey or pests present, caliber or power restrictions, expected range of shots taken, etc...........

 

[KatoKevin454]

let's just admit it, We are Lazy and don't want to type all those letters, so we just give a model number expecting everyone to know what we are referring too.... at least I am...

 

[AirNGasman]

I posted this comment over a week ago and have not received any comments.

"We are all prisoners of our experiences. My first air rifle was a springer Winchester/Daisy model 1000. I inherited it from a dear friend who passed away from cancer this spring. I put a scope on it and it is working well. I then purchased a Ruger Blackhawk/Umarex springer. The scope didn't work so I put a Hawke 2 X 7 scope on it and it is coming along."

How is an air gun newby supposed to understand the myriad of makes and models, especially when most of the posts give a model number but not a manufacturer. Or is confusion the intent?

There are gizmos called computators nowadays that are kinda like televishuns that let people dial up some kinda networth called Syburspaced where you can find almost as much information as a large town library contains. Apparently you can type in words then pull a lever marked 'Goggly' and the screen will show stuff relating to whatever word you typed in. I've heard it works pretty good sometimes; but people that use it a lot are all pretty geeky.

Correction- REAL GEEKY!

Not as geeky as airgunners, mind you...

But I wouldn't know. I'm too busy finishing up my perpetual motion machine and documenting what makes women tick to waste valuable time on such silliness.

Welcome to the forum.

 

[Stubbers]

Experience trumps google, lots of misinformation, subjective opinions and in same cases *cough* youtubers *cough* downright lies just to sell you something.

-Matt

 

[Farmplinker2]

Honestly, a few books like people have said. And reading the threads here helps. Also, the Pyramyd Air blog has a ton of info.

 

[R_M]

Shoot as many airguns as you can get your hands on. I didn't know anything about airguns for the first 20 years I shot them. Only had my Diana 25 springer to play with. When I joined a shooting range, I had the chance to shoot guns from my fellow range members, started learning from them and forums, and finally understanding how springers and pcp's worked. Once you're in the world of airguns, knowledge about them starts pouring in. Everything is confusing when you're just starting out.

 

[Filnez]

Keep reading and never be shy of asking questions. Sometimes people will skip right on by threads because they just don't have any good answers so don't get discouraged, try again.

Sorry to see that you lost a friend but good that he got to pass something to you that got you involved in airgunning.

 

[beerthief]

Very confusing at first , i would read a post and the gun was referred to as a XX178 ???????????? , even now i highlight the gun and search Google for it , right while i am reading so i see what they are talking about . IT takes time so you just have to look up what gun they are talking about .

 

[orangeokie]

I posted this comment over a week ago and have not received any comments.

"We are all prisoners of our experiences. My first air rifle was a springer Winchester/Daisy model 1000. I inherited it from a dear friend who passed away from cancer this spring. I put a scope on it and it is working well. I then purchased a Ruger Blackhawk/Umarex springer. The scope didn't work so I put a Hawke 2 X 7 scope on it and it is coming along."

How is an air gun newby supposed to understand the myriad of makes and models, especially when most of the posts give a model number but not a manufacturer. Or is confusion the intent?

All of the knowledge in the world is contained in your iPhone. At 70 years old, even I know how to find anything.