HW/Weihrauch HW50 bad barrel?

[doninva]

I bought a HW50, from AOA, about 18 months ago. Shot it some but could never get it to shoot well. My HW97 and Tony Leach TX200 kitted gun got most of the attention as they both are great shooters. I decided to put a Vortek kit in the HW50. Gun was much smoother shooting but accuracy just not there. Shoots about 3 inch groups at 30 yards and 2 inches at 15 yards. Tried about 15 different pellets. All shoot about the same. 30 shot strings over chronograph are within 15 fps. Decided maybe l just can't shoot a break barrel. Got my brother in law to shoot it for a month. He handed it back and said "there is something wrong with that gun, it shoots like crap" . So, after testing, polishing, trying every pellet l can get my hands on, l am declaring l have the only bad .177 HW50 barrel in existence . Anyone have .177 or 22 barrel they would like to sell. Thanks,Don

 

[doninva]

Scoped with Athlon Helos 4-20x50, 6-24 Hawke Airmax, 6-24 Discovery and a 8-32 Discovery. Switched scope rings twice also. My brother in law only tried the Helos and Hawke.

 

[Sqwirl57]

Contacted AoA. Their service is pretty solid. If you send it back they'll go through it and see whats going on

 

[beerthief]

is this 3 inches' a shotgun pattern centered around the POA you might try getting the barrel recrown ?

 

[xindaris]

Look at the muzzle crown. Even the slightest defect there will cause problems.

 

[doninva]

Crown looks great, polished barrel. Lockup smooth and solid. With a one year warranty and a the new spring kit, l would be surprised if AOA would want to fool with it.

 

[doninva]

It strings up and down, then right and left and then up down right left in same group. Have owned about 30 pcps and springers and with the exception of an Akela, that Crosman replaced the barrel on, worst gun l ever owned.

 

[jccams]

Have you pushed a pellet through the barrel to see how it feels, tight, loose?

 

[Sqwirl57]

It strings up and down, then right and left and then up down right left in same group. Have owned about 30 pcps and springers and with the exception of an Akela, that Crosman replaced the barrel on, worst gun l ever owned.

Sounds like the barrel pivot bolt is too loose

 

[doninva]

The pivot is VERY tight. There is zero play and takes good pressure to break barrel for cocking. Pushed pellets thru, very light rifling marks and firm but not heavy pressure in choke.

 

[Sqwirl57]

The pivot is VERY tight. There is zero play and takes good pressure to break barrel for cocking. Pushed pellets thru, very light rifling marks and firm but not heavy pressure in choke.

Very tight isn't great either. With the gun cocked CAREFULLY tighten the left side screw just until the barrel doesn't drop under its own weight and then loosen a hair. Then tighten the nut on the right side until the barrel stops swinging free again. I dont even know if mine are tightened beyond 15inlbs. It really doesn't take much.

Its safer to do this with the spring out but I'm lazy so I don't unless its already apart. Just be mindful of the trigger and you'll be alright.

 

[PEP3]

My HW50 shot exactly like that when I got mine and scoped it. The new HW50's have terrible barrel droop and there is a surprising amount of recoil in that little gun, if you are not near optical zero in you scope that's the way it will shoot. I bent the droop out of mine and tuned it myself, now it's one of the best shooters I have.

 

[Windmill01]

Have you shot the rifle using just the iron sights?

 

[doninva]

Took the iron sights off, right out of the box.My dad tried to teach me how to shoot open sights 50 years ago. I was a terrible pupil. Mine has terrible droop also but l use a drooper mount to keep the scope very close to optical center. I agree, the gun has a fair amount of recoil for 11.5 foot pounds.

 

[maxtrouble]

Contacted AoA. Their service is pretty solid. If you send it back they'll go through it and see whats going on

This right here. Call AoA and speak with the Service Department. Have Kip take a look at your rifle, He is a wizard.

 

[Sqwirl57]

For what its worth, if you JUST polished that barrel you may want to give it time. I went nuts on my 35E barrel and it didn't settle back in for probably close to 200 pellets. It gradually got better as I shot it more and it fouled up.

 

[Mycapt65]

I have seen bad Weihrauch barrels but it's very very rare. What's your velocity for each pellet? Also newer 50s suffer from tremendous barrel droop and any scope run maxed out won't group.