.22cal 18gr Pellet Comparison Test for 3 Brands
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^Good question^ speed difference would speak to bore fit. I am going to have to try JTS though.
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I spent well over thirty tins last summer during several months testing couple of my liners from a .25x700 MK2 also .22x600 L2 platforms.
Started with straight from tins and finished with washed-lubed and resized.
I built a one-piece rest for myself and really like to use it at the bench as much possible.
What I figure - and this is my own opinion, no need to initiate a drama - for testing pellets I like to shoot them further, 40 meters or 50 meters at least, the .25 cal 100 meters. luckily I have these distances available most of the time at my gun club.
In pristine outdoors conditions during my testings up to 40M the 15.9gn AAF Field beats the HN 15.85 as well the HN 18.3gn.
At 50 meters the HN 21.14gn beats the 18.3gn almost even score with Monster MRD 25.38.
At 70 meters the MRD's, and at 100 meters is a gamble so that distance I dedicated to .25.
As I said in pristine outdoors conditions.
I would give a Krown and Kingdom for an indoor hall with 100 meters range.
Started with straight from tins and finished with washed-lubed and resized.
I built a one-piece rest for myself and really like to use it at the bench as much possible.
What I figure - and this is my own opinion, no need to initiate a drama - for testing pellets I like to shoot them further, 40 meters or 50 meters at least, the .25 cal 100 meters. luckily I have these distances available most of the time at my gun club.
In pristine outdoors conditions during my testings up to 40M the 15.9gn AAF Field beats the HN 15.85 as well the HN 18.3gn.
At 50 meters the HN 21.14gn beats the 18.3gn almost even score with Monster MRD 25.38.
At 70 meters the MRD's, and at 100 meters is a gamble so that distance I dedicated to .25.
As I said in pristine outdoors conditions.
I would give a Krown and Kingdom for an indoor hall with 100 meters range.
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ThomssT - Thanks for testing the JTS at these distances. Just ordered 3 tins of the JTS 18.1g from PYA. I have three 28- 30 FPE rifles to try out for JTS. HW100, Revere and FX Royale; all .22 calibers. If you/anyone try theJTS 18’s at 50y, please post here. Tx Tom
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Great thread Thomas, thanks for sharing with us. Looking forward to seeing your longer range results.
It is always interesting to see people getting different results with the same pellets in different guns.
I have not shot any JTS pellets yet but I am looking forward to doing so.
With my primary shooter, a .22 Akela shooting 18s at up to 932 fps depending where I am in the curve I have found the following:
At 30 yds rested-
JSB 18.13 - a sloppy dime 5 - 10 shots
AA 18.13 - Well under a dime 5 - 10 shots
Baracuda 18.13 - pretty much the same hole.
I have not shot all three on the same day, it has been a progression. After shooting JSBs for a while I found AAs to shoot better, then after shooting AAs for a while I found the 'Cudas to shoot better.
I am not a great shooter, decent at best and I can't always get these results but more often than not this is what I see.
Some flyers and I pull my share of shots. I can't help but wonder if the JTS will shoot better but I have 10 fresh tins of the 'cudas so that will have to wait.
It is always interesting to see people getting different results with the same pellets in different guns.
I have not shot any JTS pellets yet but I am looking forward to doing so.
With my primary shooter, a .22 Akela shooting 18s at up to 932 fps depending where I am in the curve I have found the following:
At 30 yds rested-
JSB 18.13 - a sloppy dime 5 - 10 shots
AA 18.13 - Well under a dime 5 - 10 shots
Baracuda 18.13 - pretty much the same hole.
I have not shot all three on the same day, it has been a progression. After shooting JSBs for a while I found AAs to shoot better, then after shooting AAs for a while I found the 'Cudas to shoot better.
I am not a great shooter, decent at best and I can't always get these results but more often than not this is what I see.
Some flyers and I pull my share of shots. I can't help but wonder if the JTS will shoot better but I have 10 fresh tins of the 'cudas so that will have to wait.
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Hello @superchikn
In the past with various .177 rifles, I also found to have very good results with the H&N. I was a bit surprised when the H&N did not do as well as the JTS. However, as we have all seen, no two guns like the same ammo.
I hate to mess with the settings on my scope to shoot any 50 yard targets until next week. I have everything "dialed in" on 30 yards for now.
ThomasT
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What I have found is, when we talking about a speed of per say ballpark of 900 fps.
For a specific pellet (same grain weight in different Brand) if I lower for 15fps for example - groups better then the ballpark, if I raise for 15 fps again groups better... my chart shows the tight groups follow something like this... 885 - 915 - 930 - 950 and in between the numbers is opening 900 - 920 - 940... like a sinus wave. From here move a target just one meter closer or further you see the pattern of five (for example) changes.
Easier to read with longer distances.
For a specific pellet (same grain weight in different Brand) if I lower for 15fps for example - groups better then the ballpark, if I raise for 15 fps again groups better... my chart shows the tight groups follow something like this... 885 - 915 - 930 - 950 and in between the numbers is opening 900 - 920 - 940... like a sinus wave. From here move a target just one meter closer or further you see the pattern of five (for example) changes.
Easier to read with longer distances.
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Really looking forward to your testing at 50y. I had a tough day today at 50Y with the HW100 .22 Carbine with the 410 MM barrel. Shot five 5-shot groups with .76” CTC group size. Not bad, but the 20 and 30 yard groups also could have been better. Have my HW 100 at approximately 815-820 FPS.
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Re. .22 Akela
Ray - will be pretty tough for the JTS 18’s to beat shooting the Cuba’s for one hole at 30 yards. If 30 yards is your desired distance and you just bought 10 tins of Barracuda 18’s, you have your best pellet already.
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Thanks Tommy,Re. .22 Akela
Ray - will be pretty tough for the JTS 18’s to beat shooting the Cuba’s for one hole at 30 yards. If 30 yards is your desired distance and you just bought 10 tins of Barracuda 18’s, you have your best pellet already.
Yeah 30 yds benched at home is great. I can also shoot 50, 60 and 70, but that is across a big deep creek bed which makes it a lot of work to hang paper so I just shoot dead trees and logs on a pile. Hard to keep track of groups and bullpups don't make great longer range bench guns so I only do that for fun.
More importantly, i pest and hunt with the Akela. At our dairy permissions, some pigeons and starlings are inside of 35 yds but most are 50, 60, 70+ yds. While some of the closer shots are off hand, everything else is done standing with non trigger hand rested against a building corner, tractor tire or something else.
With the Cuda's I have head shot two pigeons in a row at 72 yds lasered atop a silo.
The rig has also head shot a few groundhogs at 80 yds and then some.
My skills are a work in progress, but my Akela definitely holds its against my buddy and his .25 Taipan Vet. My .22 is affected by wind drift much more than his .25 is.
Bottom line is, for me will JTS prove to shoot even tighter at the longer distances? We shall see... In a few thousand shots.
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Not a pellet comparison, but speed.
This is whyI asked about the speed....I did a test Sun pm at 28 yards. Was testing the 600mm battle on my 22 Mk2 Crown (I normally use the 380, purely because I don't have to change barrels to put back into the case). Saber Gen 2 chassis and bag on the way, so trying to decide between 500, 600 and 700 barrels.
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