Airforce Did I make a wrong decision

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I told myself that I am done with pcps. Majority of them or delicate, expensive, a pain in the butt in regards to things needed to be sending pellets down range. But on the other hand they are powerful, quite accurate, nowhere as finicky as Springer's, and a tinkerer's dream.

The reason why I brought this post up is because I never touched physically seen in my presence nor have I ever shot a Air Force Condor or Air Force escape or Air Force Talon And I'm doubting myself about should I have purchase one just to get the feeling of shooting it out of my system. They say condors are very powerful and with the LW barrel they are pretty accurate. But then I also read that it takes a lot to get them to be as good as some of their owners claim. Basically just doubting myself about leaving them alone or should I have at least purchased one and get a 50/50 of a waste of my money or money well spent. Just late night babbling
 
Ergonomics are very similar to the AR platform.

It's an inline rifle. It's not made for shooting off of a bench. It's made for carrying around the woods and putting 60 or 70 or 80 ft lb on a tree squirrel or a groundhog or a raccoon at normal hunting ranges.

They excel at that purpose. They are a "franken rifle". You take it apart you swap a barrel in you have a different rifle. It's an exceedingly simple system to work on. Very predictable. I like mine a lot.

When mine is running right which is most of the time I can put most of my pellets on a penny at 40 yards. I'm sure some of them shoot better than that I'm sure some of them shoot worse.

I've got four barrels for mine. I've got two different hammers and a hammer weight, two different sets of valves for the bottle. They're all adjustable with different apertures.

It's a darn fine rifle. I should also tell you what it's not. It's not a .$2,000 or $3,000 rifle made in Europe with two bottles and regulator do dads all over it that you have to tweak and tweak and tweak. It's not going to win any contests, but it will bring home meat as good as anything that cost three times as much.
 
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OldSpook said:
Ergonomics are very similar to the AR platform.

It's an inline rifle. It's not made for shooting off of a bench. It's made for carrying around the woods and putting 60 or 70 or 80 ft lb on a tree squirrel or a groundhog or a raccoon at normal hunting ranges.

They excel at that purpose. They are a "franken rifle". You take it apart you swap a barrel in you have a different rifle. It's an exceedingly simple system to work on. Very predictable. I like mine a lot.

When mine is running right which is most of the time I can put most of my pellets on a penny at 40 yards. I'm sure some of them shoot better than that I'm sure some of them shoot worse.

I've got four barrels for mine. I've got two different hammers and a hammer weight, two different sets of valves for the bottle. They're all adjustable with different apertures.

It's a darn fine rifle. I should also tell you what it's not. It's not a .$2,000 or $3,000 rifle made in Europe with two bottles and regulator do dads all over it that you have to tweak and tweak and tweak. It's not going to win any contests, but it will bring home meat as good as anything that cost three times as much.
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At my begining I bought three. I do not keep anyone.
 
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Many moons ago they were somewhat revolutionary but Airforce has done little to improve them, just rescaling the design for different applications. I guess the big uns are still somewhat competitive but the small stuff is really dated and they suffer in competition through absence of a mag, reg, stock and pic rail. The crude trigger with annoying auto safety is unforgivable in this era. Most folks spend at least the cost of the gun, getting them to an acceptable state. Then they buy a Taipan.
 
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I needed something in the .45 range for feral hogs and the AirForce LSS CF I use is perfect for the task. If there was something better that would fit my purpose, I would have purchased that instead.

Thankfully, the rifle is very accurate at hurling 298 grain NSA knurled slugs at 50 yards with a thermal scope. As mentioned, if you don’t need a cannon like I do, I would definitely look at some of the more refined rifles available in the smaller calibers. I agree that the ergonomics with the stock rifle is poor, but after I added an extended buttstock, the shooting position is now perfect.

Airforce - Upgrading the Buttstock on the AirForce Texan LSS CF

I purchased a AirForce Texan LSS CF in .457 a few months ago and have hunted with it quite a bit. During that time I took note of where AirForce cut corners and the Mickey Mouse buttstock on the rifle was one such item. As the Carbon Fiber bottle is shorter than the steel bottle, the shooting...
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In order to be accurate you have to have always the position of you eye in regard of the scope in the same place.
Having your cheek resting in a round bottle makes it really,really difficult to achieve.

Air force make rifles really powerful.

On .30 Cal there are MANY excellent option in the market.

In .357 some.

If you can achieve your purpose with a .30 Cal, then forget about the Air force.
 
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gendoc said:
i have been through just about everything AF has made..... the escape, talon, then condor, then texan in .257, .30, .357, 2- .457's and now i just have a corrupt talon-p carbine thats quite a handful !!
my big-bore hunting whitetail experience has moved away from AF guns.....just my 2cents.. :sneaky:
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I’ve struggled to not order a talon p. It’s kinda still very cool
 
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There are better rifles to be had (at twice the price). One can say that about almost any rifle out there, unless it costs three or four thousand bucks.

Like I said. It is a hunter's rifle. If you are punching paper you will want something else. If you are shooting competition, you will want something else. If you want to slap the "Be Jesus" out of a groundhog a Condor in .25 will do that just fine out to a hundred yards maybe somewhat further if yours shoots slugs ok.

Has AF been somewhat remiss in not upgrading the thing and fixing the obvious flaws, darn right they have. There is ZERO excuse for attaching that end cap on the SS models with only one screw and then LEAVING it that way for years. The only reason for that kind of mistake is profit margin. It's not a real problem unless you want to add a silencer on the shroud (and if you don't you ain't backyard friendly when you crank up the power).

The gun is worth what they charge for it and shoots well enough for ANY hunter to pull it out of the box, adjust it for power, select a pellet and go hunting.
 
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First about ergonomics really easy to solve .you will need a angled adapter it inclined the bottle down for a perfect sight aviable at pcp tunes ..$45.. and a wockguard aviable at talon tunes..$85 ..this will alow you to use your preferred ar grip .. ad one last solid bushing on the end of the frame ..and a 11mm to picatinny adapter..... But
if you have the money to buy something else .go and buy it .. they are better regulated options for the same amount of money..I have taipans n AGT guns.. but I still own 4 heavily modified AF ..mine shoot awesome for my use .. that maybe everything else could be gone some day except my 4 AF .. easy to work on easy to modify..but it gets ridiculously expensive pretty quick..like only the valve + angled adapter + 1000cc carbon bottle + shoulder rest where $760 per rifle..that did include the cost of the rifle + the cost of custom barrels, bipod ..etc ..
 
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In looking for a long range, heavy hitting sniper rifle I've been watching the AirForce products for almost a decade and they haven't changed much over the years. Guess they partnered with Rapid Air Weapons to get some fresh blood and modern technology into the company.

A sniper rifle was low priority the "airguns to get" list so I was in no hurry to make a purchase and have been bidding my time. I finally found what I was looking for in the FX Panthera and I'm very pleased with it.

I'd say that if you have that itch to try one of the AirForce products look around for someone within driving distance who has one; get a second hand one or buy new. You can always sell it through satisfying that curiosity will cost you some money.

I still look at the unique design of the AirForce products but know that I'll never own one. There's lots of more modern choices available.

Cheers!
 
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