Thanks. I wasn’t prepared to clamp it down, wasn’t sure, makes sense what your saying. Crow
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HW/Weihrauch Which is your favorite front sight or insert?
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I like the factory sights on the HW 55T. Any idea where one can get a replacement rubber eye cup for those?
Mike
Mike
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They show up on eBay now and then. Usually listed as a Walther eye shade/cup. The “dude” from Bulgaria lists them. Around $30.
I buy these Nikon eyecups on Amazon. They fit perfectly. $7 for two. This is a good brand. Some brands are rough.
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Not too crazy about the post or lollipop. My favorite is that plastic insert, I use them for both bullseye shooting and plinking. For plinking I just center my target in that aperture, no problems at short to moderate ranges, I really don't have a location for long distance shooting but do not think it would be much of a problem there. I was first introduced to that type sight back about 1963 when I was on a ROTC small bore rifle team, and never looked back. Of course in those days it was steel with the crossbar to hold the aperture, An advantage of that is that it would help to notice any rifle canting. My FWB300s which I got back in the early 80's came with the plastic type and I quickly decided that I preferred it. Several of my rifles now have that type sight. I replaced the factory post on my FWB 124d with one with that accomadates interchangeable inserts so I could use one of those plastic inserts.
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Diana and Weihrauch nominally use the same 9mm rail spacing on the front grooves. BUT...the machining / stamping of them is sufficiently different that interchanging them is rough - better to go for the original. The Walther groove spacing is altogether closer and not compatible.
I like to use old Anschutz front sights. Again 9mm groove spacing, but clamp via a small sliding steel "foot," instead of flexing the sight base like the others. This is pretty tolerant of minor variations in groove spacing - they drop right on, perfectly centered, to HW's or Dianas. Plus they take larger inserts for which MANY variations are available. Here's one on an HW 55.
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If you aren't too picky about having a perfect match to the factory original, the OEM eye disks for older Diana, FWB, Walther, Anschutz, or HW sights are all the same diameter. So a rubber cup made for any of them will fit.
For what it's worth (not much LOL), modern top-level match shooters seldom use those any more. It's considered less fatiguing to the eye to NOT be looking through a big jet black hole.
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Exactly. This is why I like this so much. Not looking into a tunnel but blocking glare. Looks good also. IMHO
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That IS a gorgeous set up! I'm glad you got the fabulous Gehmann sight...but I also kick myself for passing on it, LOL!! 
And here's what your sight would look like outfitted for a high-level 10M match these days. No big rubber cup, but an adjustable iris (here with a colored filter module), a slightly enlarged dark rear face, and a blinder strip to allow shooting with both eyes open (dimensions of this limited by ISSF regs).
And here's what your sight would look like outfitted for a high-level 10M match these days. No big rubber cup, but an adjustable iris (here with a colored filter module), a slightly enlarged dark rear face, and a blinder strip to allow shooting with both eyes open (dimensions of this limited by ISSF regs).
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Ohhhh....that Gehmann sight is so......S E X Y. I just want to put it up to my face, breathe on it, treat it nicely and look thru it. I have not invested in any Aluminum chassis 10 M rifles but that sight set up reminds me of some Palma aperture sights I've had the pleasure of shooting.
Mike
Mike
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https://www.creedmoorsports.com/product/gehmann-eyecup-for-standard-1-inch-disc-or-iris/-Gehmann
https://www.nordicmarksman.com/Anti-Glare-Tube-6700-20.html
Champions Choice has these rubber cup also
some people think they are worth 30 bucks when they can be had for 10 bucks or so
and as casual shooters we have no damn rules use what will help you enjoy the sport
i will say that if you go to the trouble to buy a Gehmann diopter and not get at least a Gehmann 510 iris you have missed the boat
and if you would try the glare tube on the front of the diopter you will see a different look
we as shooter like many different things and agree and disagree use what works for you, diopter sights and there counter pair the globe front sight are not cheap by any means and your homework is wise to do and to understand all of the differences and the similarities
now Mike D and i have had more post together on this subject over the years, we are both hoarders of sights and bit and pieces and the question would be why and the answer is we can
the diopter globe sight rabbit hole is a big one jump in and educate yourself i for one at the age of 73 is at the end of my life and we as hobbist need someone to educate the younger men and women about all things and one is sights
take care guys have a great turkey day
mike in Washington
https://www.nordicmarksman.com/Anti-Glare-Tube-6700-20.html
Champions Choice has these rubber cup also
some people think they are worth 30 bucks when they can be had for 10 bucks or so
and as casual shooters we have no damn rules use what will help you enjoy the sport
i will say that if you go to the trouble to buy a Gehmann diopter and not get at least a Gehmann 510 iris you have missed the boat
and if you would try the glare tube on the front of the diopter you will see a different look
we as shooter like many different things and agree and disagree use what works for you, diopter sights and there counter pair the globe front sight are not cheap by any means and your homework is wise to do and to understand all of the differences and the similarities
now Mike D and i have had more post together on this subject over the years, we are both hoarders of sights and bit and pieces and the question would be why and the answer is we can
the diopter globe sight rabbit hole is a big one jump in and educate yourself i for one at the age of 73 is at the end of my life and we as hobbist need someone to educate the younger men and women about all things and one is sights
take care guys have a great turkey day
mike in Washington
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They are specific to the brand of the front sight. Some brands will interchange. Once you know the size you can find which Companies make this size. I see them on eBay. I would think Midway, Brownells, etc have them. Easy to make though. That’s what I’ve always done.
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Creedmoor. Champions Choice. Guy out of Canada that sells them on Evilbay. As BoG said, depends on what brand/diameter you need.
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Hey Dan, you been in my drawer of sight inserts, lol? Those are also my two favorites
I love the fine bead front sight for shooting in the field. A heavy front post is fine if you use a 6 o'clock hold but I don't and prefer to put my sight on my target. The thin post and fine bead allows me to do that best with the greatest view of my target.
I also like the clear plastic ring insert for 10m and short range silhouette shooting. I use the old school HW metal ring inserts in some of my guns but on occasion I've shot the wrong target because the metal blocked my view of the correct target. I did splurge once and bought a clear adjustable Gehman front iris without posts for my 300SU. It's pretty cool and fun to adjust according to need.
Here is one advantage to a clear plastic front insert I identified to a fellow forum member once. I don't know what was wrong but he had trouble adjusting his rear diopter to get on target. I suggested he could make a clear front sight insert with a slightly off center hole and rotate the insert as necessary, kind of like Burris Signature rings with Pos-Align inserts.
I love the fine bead front sight for shooting in the field. A heavy front post is fine if you use a 6 o'clock hold but I don't and prefer to put my sight on my target. The thin post and fine bead allows me to do that best with the greatest view of my target.
I also like the clear plastic ring insert for 10m and short range silhouette shooting. I use the old school HW metal ring inserts in some of my guns but on occasion I've shot the wrong target because the metal blocked my view of the correct target. I did splurge once and bought a clear adjustable Gehman front iris without posts for my 300SU. It's pretty cool and fun to adjust according to need.
Here is one advantage to a clear plastic front insert I identified to a fellow forum member once. I don't know what was wrong but he had trouble adjusting his rear diopter to get on target. I suggested he could make a clear front sight insert with a slightly off center hole and rotate the insert as necessary, kind of like Burris Signature rings with Pos-Align inserts.
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So THAT’S where all the diopters are! Happy Thanksgiving day everyone.Now on my 70th orbit and I think "because we can" is my new motto!
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