Ya,know I try to take mine down to clean and freshen .. I get a lot of dirt/ dust under the wood and can work into the action .. that's not a bad policy to do.
Saddly I can suffer from lazy bones syndrome time to time ..
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Another bites the dust
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Saddly I can suffer from lazy bones syndrome time to time ..
ARE YOU .... using these springs on the STOCK GUIDE ? ( As in a Very loose / sloppy fit )
OR ... on a nice snug fitted spring guide ?
Secondary vibrations or oscillation of the spring post shot creates a LOT of metal fatigue & a BIG REASON to use a snug fitted spring guide
OR ... on a nice snug fitted spring guide ?
Secondary vibrations or oscillation of the spring post shot creates a LOT of metal fatigue & a BIG REASON to use a snug fitted spring guide
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Number of cycles is only one variable in spring longevity. Springer mainsprings are over-stressed to a ridiculous level by engineering standards, which unavoidably means a drastically shortened life compared to other coilspring uses, with or without lubrication.
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Spring fatigue is from work hardening & really similar to bending a piece of metal back & forth until it fractures/breaks.
Lower or lets say Deader the shot cycle becomes, less becomes the springs back/forth motion & the work hardening of the springs steel wire.
Lower or lets say Deader the shot cycle becomes, less becomes the springs back/forth motion & the work hardening of the springs steel wire.
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This spring was a fight to slide on .. the others were darn tight , this last one was a pain but went ..ARE YOU .... using these springs on the STOCK GUIDE ? ( As in a Very loose / sloppy fit )
OR ... on a nice snug fitted spring guide ?
Secondary vibrations or oscillation of the spring post shot creates a LOT of metal fatigue & a BIG REASON to use a snug fitted spring guide
What's the term used " nail tight". Well no problun there
Matter of fact getting the broken spring off the guide is about a equal fight ..lol
Oh well it's st looks like my use and shot count abuse as the reason .
It's not like a high ticket item that's hurting the bilfold ( then spending a penny makes me cringe).
You figure if I'm able to shoot everyday and I shoot 10m, 20,30,50, 20 shots each + whatever can or steel that's easy a 80-100 shot day . Like I said a 500 count tin is about 10 days worth ..
So I'm just going with spring fatigue .
You can only bend back and forth a wire so much before it snaps in 2.
Put side of the spring life I guess I could not ask for a better , I could if selfish I guess . Consistent fps, groups well, smooth action , only noise it makes is the click breaking the barrel , the click of the piston on the trigger and the snap of closing the barrel ... Butter smooth.. till I get that one cock and hear that snap on the tube ..lol
Here's the seal face out of it .. looks as good as when new. . not a mark or scratch on it easy 8000-12000 shots on it if not more.
P.s..
I should add that guide tightness is also a preset "shragged" spring I set for 12 hrs +/- before install.
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Ya, they get shot as much on days , I still need a pump and probe to reflate the hatsans rams up ..lol this last cold morning they lost pressure overnight .. that was in the cart then this happen too boot..lol
Gamo needs a seal but it's a overseas item it seems ( cas) ...
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Seems back in business..
The fresh hornet got some sting back .lol
50y, cp-hp.177, stock irons.
Poor ol' gamo was a nice fill in , but it ain't the R9 in the end
The fresh hornet got some sting back .lol
50y, cp-hp.177, stock irons.
Poor ol' gamo was a nice fill in , but it ain't the R9 in the end
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JM springs rule..lol.Seems back in business..
The fresh hornet got some sting back .lol
50y, cp-hp.177, stock irons.
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Poor ol' gamo was a nice fill in , but it ain't the R9 in the end
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Please forgive the diversion, where do you get gammo seals...they don't seem too eager to sell parts
thanks
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What Gamo seals do you need? Gamo USA sells breech seals in their accessories section. ARH and Vortek sell 25mm piston seals for "standard" models. Custom Air Seals of Australia sells piston seals for the big "33mm" guns, seals are actually 29mm. 33mm is actually the compression tube outer diameter. There are two variants of those, one press on fit (newer) and the other for older/original big Gamo's (I believe).
If you or have a buddy with an FFL, supposedly Gamo will sell parts then. Maybe do a group order or buy extra as I'm sure folks will be interested in obtaining piston seals...
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If that 33mm tube seal it's Australia from custom air seal. ( 2 types , blue, or yellow depending on the model )
I read a post where a guy brought up something funny to think on
Why if you need a federal firearms license to buy a simple piston seal from gamo , but you can buy all there guns anywhere without one ?
I looked at that and thought ya, putting it that way sure makes gamo even more silly on parts ..lol
I read a post where a guy brought up something funny to think on
Why if you need a federal firearms license to buy a simple piston seal from gamo , but you can buy all there guns anywhere without one ?
I looked at that and thought ya, putting it that way sure makes gamo even more silly on parts ..lol
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Thanks Zack I'll check it out.....seals for CFX (a gamo remake of the BSA superstar). The last time I had checked gamo refused to sell parts.
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There pretty much sticks in the mud on self fixing there stuff.
(Bsa Superstar ) ( odd looking seal)
BSA Piston Seal Part No. 164867
Fits multiple models, please scroll down for complete list.
www.airgunspares.com (Cfx)
www.airgunspares.com/165657bsapistonseal.html
arh usa shows fits cfx
New-Gamo Tesla Custom Piston Seals.
Maccari Custom Airgun Shop. Airguns and related accessories. Springs,tune kits,gunstocks,Beeman, Rws, Webley and many others. Sales and service
www.airrifleheadquarters.com
so if me id probly add this one as a just in case you can always fit down
Apex Small Seal, RWS-Diana,24,26,28,RWS94,B18-19,Gamo 220,440,880, B20-26
Maccari Custom Airgun Shop. Airguns and related accessories. Springs,tune kits,gunstocks,Beeman, Rws, Webley and many others. Sales and service
www.airrifleheadquarters.com
Maybe some info here on that are seal use
CFX Rebuild (spring, seal, o-ring) - Airguns & Guns Forum
CFX Rebuild (spring, seal, o-ring), Air guns, Airgun Forum
www.gatewaytoairguns.org
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Just to add the hornet springs I got this time are the " latest" and there different then the hornet spring I been getting ..
I was kinda sceptical like I am most times something good changes but I got to say this latest hornet spring is working out good . I kinda thinking I may like it better . So far can't complain ..
Old had compressed coils the " latest' don't . Also funny the Id is a bit larger .
Overall the " latest" spring seemed to go together a lot smoother and shoots great ..
Go figure ?
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Glad I ordered extras ...lol
I was kinda sceptical like I am most times something good changes but I got to say this latest hornet spring is working out good . I kinda thinking I may like it better . So far can't complain ..
Old had compressed coils the " latest' don't . Also funny the Id is a bit larger .
Overall the " latest" spring seemed to go together a lot smoother and shoots great ..
Go figure ?
Latest top..
Glad I ordered extras ...lol
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I still have the older springs with the compressed coils. I've got a couple of spares too so I'm set for awhile.
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Based on my experience and what I've heard from others ARH always puts out great stuff. I'm sure those new style springs will work out well.I guess now is see if I get a better life expectancy out of the " latest"
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