Gamo swarm gen2 .22 catastrophic failure help

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dianap5

dianap5

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So today I took my Gamo swarm fusion gen2 .22. Lately the gun seemed to have been acting up but I thought no couldn't be, must just be me. When I first got it everything was good. But over time started to notice some discrepancy. I'm not the best shot but I'm definitely not as bad as what was being put on the paper the last 2 weeks...6 inch groupings at 25 yards? Then would go back to inch or smaller groupings all of sudden. I'd adjust my scope in and it'd be on point perfect for a bit. Then be all over the place and then it would settle into a decent grouping again in a slightly different area and id zero in the scope again on the impact zone and this process would repeat(driving me to question my santity). Sometimes it even sounded like I would get a dud, like nothing would hit the target at all and im positive it was loaded and not a dry fire. Other times the pellet would land a foot infront of the target after it seemed to be zeroed just a few shots before. Now im not the best shot in the world but im not this bad, something was wrong....I just couldnt tell what...I checked the barrel to make sure it was free of obstruction and it was. But the "supressor" at the end started to rattle....then all of a sudden this happend. (Pictures). It still shoots down range but it's all over the place. What would you do now? I love the gen 2. Because of the iron sights I have never liked the gen3. Im very saddend by this....im afraid repair would cost more than a new gun? But they don't make iron sight 10x anymore. I'm just beyond belief right now as to what could cause this??

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Moog said:
Looks like the pellets were hitting the supressor. Can the suppressor be removed? If it can be removed can you order a replacment?
How long have you had the rifle?
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What could cause this though? Even if I put a new damper part if I don't figure out what caused it in first place it happen again. And even now with this giant hole and a clear baffle the Pellets are still so inaccurate......
 
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MrP said:
There are some roll pins you can tap out and remove the shattered baffles on the inside. You could use a Dremel tool to even out the hole on the end.

Same exact thing happened to mine thank you Gamo. I just shot mine without the baffles (before I moved on).

Someone with a 3-D printer could probably make you a replacement pretty easily.
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The same thing happend to yours? Was it shooting wildy inaccurate? Because mine still shoots all over the place even with the baffle broken out like this. Theres 2 pins to be removed wich I will remove and take th baffle out. But even if I replace the baffle what caused this in the first place? Surely it will happen again if I replace it? What the hell could cause this?
 
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dianap5 said:
What could cause this though? Even if I put a new damper part if I don't figure out what caused it in first place it happen again. And even now with this giant hole and a clear baffle the Pellets are still so inaccurate......
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If it's still shooting poorly now that the battle is clear I'm guessing that the suppressor is loose and rattles around when you fire. This will affect the harmonics of the barrel resulting in poor accuracy.

As far as what caused the problem in the first place I think it may be poor quality control in the manufacturing process since another member states above that he had the same problem. I hope you can get it fixed.
 
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3Crows said:
Most likely you may have loaded two pellets. Does this rifle have a magazine?
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It does have a magazine but ive been very carefull not to load two Pellets. So far I have taken out the two pins and the baffle came out. A bunch of plastic bits from the baffle and pellet shards also came out. I put the baffle back in the best I could and then out the cap back on. Going to test out the accuracy gain in the morning. Looks terrible with the broken muzzle though....ive sent an email to gamo. Well see what they have to say maybe it will magically be more accurate now that I've cleared the broken muzzle baffle thing? Idk how I'd find replacement parts but thats something I'll also ask gamo maybe they have a new baffle and cap I can have....or most likely sell me lol...
 
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There are possibly some printed replacement parts? I was unable to obtain a replacement baffle for my Urban. Now, Gamo/Daisey did sell me other parts but the baffles were NA. I cut mine off with a propane torch and did away with it installing an adapter and a DFL. Oh, mine was busted because I did not realize I had double fed pellets and it looked exactly like yours does.
 
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Moog said:
If it's still shooting poorly now that the battle is clear I'm guessing that the suppressor is loose and rattles around when you fire. This will affect the harmonics of the barrel resulting in poor accuracy.

As far as what caused the problem in the first place I think it may be poor quality control in the manufacturing process since another member states above that he had the same problem. I hope you can get it fixed.
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Could you elaborate a bit on the loose suppressor? From what I could tell after removing the cap and baffle and looking down inside the shroud, there was a barrel inside the shroud with empty space between the metal barrel part and the outer plastic shroud. The red baffle is 2 pieces split down the middle so I pulled that out cleaned it and then put it together and tried my best to re seat it back onto the metal barrel inside of the plastic shroud. No way to tell if the metal barrel was look inside or not but once the shroud was replaced and the cap and slide pins were put back in tight it seems to have gone back together fairly well? Although very ugly..is it still possible for the barrel to be loose and thus that is what is effecting the terrible accuracy and causing the baffle destruction? I understand it's possible that I might not have released I double loaded but I've never done it before and I've always been duper diligent to not double feed...anyways in the morning I'll go do some more test shots and see if thr accuracy improves at all. Maybe I can find a new cap and baffle. Id rather not go the 3d printed route unless I have to as I'd rather have higher quality resin molds.
 
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It seems to me that if you have replaced the broken baffle pieces (that's what it sounds like to me?), then you will have no chance at shooting it with any accuracy. If the front moderator is completely empty and void of any parts including the front-end cap, at least that should prove that it was clipping in the first place, giving you the cause of the issue.
Yes, it will be much louder, but at least you'll know what happened and then ask Gamo how they will fix their rifle.
 
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Revoman said:
It seems to me that if you have replaced the broken baffle pieces (that's what it sounds like to me?), then you will have no chance at shooting it with any accuracy. If the front moderator is completely empty and void of any parts including the front-end cap, at least that should prove that it was clipping in the first place, giving you the cause of the issue.
Yes, it will be much louder, but at least you'll know what happened and then ask Gamo how they will fix their rifle.
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I took the front cap off, the two part red baffle came out with ease, I pushed the two halves back together and slid it back down the shroud unto the metal barrel. I tried to hammer it down, I tried to make it as tight as possible before putting the cap back on to secure the baffle back against the barrel. Is it possible the barrel is still loose even with the baffle shoved back onto the internal barrel? I guess ill find out tomorrow if it's any more or less accurate. I've already started to look for a used or refurbished one but the gen 2 with the iron sights are harder to come by these days. Idk why they decide to remove the iron sights on the gen3 makes no sense...the fibre oprin iron sights were awesome.
 
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Here's some additional pictures Incase this might help anymore figure out cuased this and what to do next if it's repairable? Is the baffle supposed to just slide on the inner barrel loosely? Or is it supposed to be glued or mounted with force? I tried to push it on as hard as I could but it still comes off easily. Only the black cap seems to secure it against the inner barrel. I just am so soubfounded how this could have possiblely happend because I'm so diligent to not double feed.....any new advice or new ideas will be appreciated. Thank you. Also it does seem gamo does sell replacement baffles and end caps. I'll buy a replacement to see if it helps but I'm worried about it happening again...or if the inner barrel is loose could that be causing this failure? From what I can tell the inner barrel has ever so slightly play but maybe when the baffle and front plate are secured the barrel will be tight and accurate? It's worth trying to replace the broken parts but im still skeptical what really causes this....

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