Is there Night Vision with LONG Eye Relief (for Pistols)❓

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Joedirt199 said:
What about a clip on in front of a pistol scope? Going to be heavy if you intend to hold it out front like a pistol.
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Joe,

I didn't think of that, thanks.

Probably didn't think of it — because the front clip-on's are so expensive (vs. the rear clip-on's).

Matthias
 
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Only long eye relief NV would be the DS35/night-stalker-4k. If you are talking about the gk1 there are a few mounting options depending on your version. I specifically looked for a v3 with the front adjustment screw so I can get the aluminum rail on top. First one is not mine but showing you can use the dovetail if needed. Second is mine with the zulus and rail.
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brawler1588 said:
Only long eye relief NV would be the DS35 Night Stalker 4K.
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Thanks for the input! 👍🏼

I went on the Pard site, but could only find it to have a eye relief of 4" (100mm).

That might be a lot by night vision standards.
But by rifle scope standards, 4" is just about normal.
And by pistol scope standards, a scope with 4" wouldn't qualify..... 🤔

Still looking! 😊



Brawler and Paul, I have tried a rifle scope on a pistol, and for the shooting scenarios I use this rig, it's great! (PP700 with Discovery VT-3 3-12x44 FFP). 👍🏼

However, the GK1 was not going to be another pistol getting used like a rifle — I bought this pistol to shoot it as a pistol. And my preferred shooting scenario for the GK1 would be rats. Hence, the NV long eye relief question..... 😃
I also have gotten a dot sight — but I am realizing that older eyes like more magnification 🤦🏻‍♂️ — and dot sights with unlimited eye relief normally have 1x only (I'd love to add models to my list).

Matthias


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Discover top-quality thermal scopes and night vision scopes for target detection. Shop a range of reliable, high-performance scopes designed for hunting, security, and outdoor exploration at PARD official site.
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Matthias,

I have tried to find an NV/thermal unit for my GK1 to use as a pistol also. The only one I found close enough was the Sig Sauer Echo3. But between high cost and poor reviews, I decided to save my money. I just have a red dot on mine with a 1mm dot and it works great to about 45 minutes after sunset! I do have a stock and a forearm for the GK1 but then I have rifles that are already setup for night work anyway. The GK1 is just great as a grab and go and the range and accuracy always makes it my fault if I miss!
 
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delooper said:
It's a little much to put on a pistol, but it would work. Thermal red dot hybrid.


They also have an IR version with an integrated emitter.
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Delooper,

now that is one ridiculous overkill on a pistol!
And with rat trap prices hovering at the 1 dollar range — that is a most STUPID way to go about killing rats.


I really like it!! 😃


🔸 This is what a customer said on the Q&A part of a sales webpage:
Q: "Is this any good for rodent control? Typically 50 yards and under."
➔ A: "Most definitely, this is a bit overkill for that but I'm sure you'll enjoy." 😆




For the benefit of anyone else looking at this, here are some of the relevants specs — for both the night vision version and the thermal version of the Holosun DRS:


🟠 Holosun: DRS-NV (day-night NV dot sight)
[DRS = digital rifle sight]

Eye relief = unlimited!
Dot size = 2 moa
Recording = up to 60fps NV
Magnification = 1x, 2x, 4x, 8x digital(!) zoom
Battery time = 6h in full run mode
Reticle adjustment = Capped, 0.5moa/click

Price = $1176 MRSP | $1000 Midway, B&H, Brownells, etc.
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🟠 Holosun: DRS-TH (day-night thermal dot sight)
[DRS = digital rifle sight]
[TH = thermal]

Eye relief = unlimited (I assume!)
Dot size = 2 moa
Recording = up to 50fps NV
Magnification = 1x, 2x, 4x, 8x digital(!) zoom
Battery time = 20h

Price = $1882 MRSP | $1600 at Midway, B&N, etc.
Links:
Demonstration:


Matthias 😊
 
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JungleShooter said:
Delooper,

now that is one ridiculous overkill on a pistol!
And with rat trap prices hovering at the 1 dollar range — that is a most STUPID way to go about killing rats.


I really like it!! 😃


🔸 This is what a customer said on the Q&A part of a sales webpage:
Q: "Is this any good for rodent control? Typically 50 yards and under."
➔ A: "Most definitely, this is a bit overkill for that but I'm sure you'll enjoy." 😆




For the benefit of anyone else looking at this, here are some of the relevants specs — for both the night vision version and the thermal version of the Holosun DRS:


🟠 Holosun: DRS-NV (day-night NV dot sight)
[DRS = digital rifle sight]

Eye relief = unlimited!
Dot size = 2 moa
Recording = up to 60fps NV
Magnification = 1x, 2x, 4x, 8x digital(!) zoom
Battery time = 6h in full run mode
Reticle adjustment = Capped, 0.5moa/click

Price = $1176 MRSP | $1000 Midway, B&H, Brownells, etc.
Link:



🟠 Holosun: DRS-TH (day-night thermal dot sight)
[DRS = digital rifle sight]
[TH = thermal]

Eye relief = unlimited (I assume!)
Dot size = 2 moa
Recording = up to 50fps NV
Magnification = 1x, 2x, 4x, 8x digital(!) zoom
Battery time = 20h

Price = $1882 MRSP | $1600 at Midway, B&N, etc.
Links:
Demonstration:


Matthias 😊
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Yeah, I think it's a really interesting development. It's not quite what I want but I suspect there will be variations on the idea in the coming years. By that I mean, scopes and red-dots with "heads up" overlays of non-standard spectral data.

The kind of changes I'd like to see would be like:

A) remove all the recording options to make the unit lighter and smaller

B) have some scope versions, like some 3x and 6x prism scopes, and a variable-magnification version.

C) have some simple switches on the device that add various rapid filters to the spectral data: cutting out blue light, cutting out near IR or thermal, etc.

I can totally see myself buying a unit like this, eventually. But I'll wait until the technology is a little more mature.

There's some excellent Youtube reviews of this device. One of the best feature is the "outline" feature where it traces outlines of your thermal targets. So if a person walks through your field of view you literally see a stick-man on the screen. . . or something a bit more like Homer Simpson.

I have a related thread: https://www.airgunnation.com/thread...future-optical-thermal-hybrid-scopes.1308251/
 
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I heard about the Holosun NV & Thermal dot sites but was unaware they were going to have digital zoom.

I have an astigmatism & have not found a dot site that works for me. If I view the dot through the camera on my phone the dot will appear crisp. Does anyone know if the same would occur when using digital zoom?

A day/night dot site that goes up to 8x & has unlimited eye relief does solve some problems for me. And creates problems for the rabbits.

I might need to call a retailer today.

Agree with the other poster who mentioned the appeal of a stripped down version of one of these.
 
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Scouty said:
I heard about the Holosun NV & Thermal dot sites but was unaware they were going to have digital zoom.

I have an astigmatism & have not found a dot site that works for me. If I view the dot through the camera on my phone the dot will appear crisp. Does anyone know if the same would occur when using digital zoom?

A day/night dot site that goes up to 8x & has unlimited eye relief does solve some problems for me. And creates problems for the rabbits.

I might need to call a retailer today.

Agree with the other poster who mentioned the appeal of a stripped down version of one of these.
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I don't know the answer to your question. I'd try to find a dealer and see if they'd let you try it out first.
 
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