Zelos Bottle valve Found. Huben !

[blackdog899]

Funny you should ask, my plenum idea could easily be adapted for dual tanks on an unregulated gun.

That said I have a Niksan Escalade and an AEA Terminator which both have dual tanks and 850CC of air. I like lots of air in my guns. Most of my single bottle guns the first mod is bigger CF bottles.

My Hatsan Barrage and Bullmaster have Huben Power Dream Universal regulators and Tuxing 1.1L bottles. I have 2 more Acecare 1.1L fat bottles on the way for my Talon and Condor. I'm very good at turning guns into boat anchors by adding *stuff*. I usually shoot of a tripod so weight is not terribly important. I also have smaller CF tanks with AF valves if I need to go lighter with the Talon and Condor.

Matt, I’m up to 8 guns and a drs coming Tuesday. Got 2 squirrels today with Rex rpa after my layoff. Now I’m gonna oil my Kratos stock which needs some shine. I guess I’m just saying what am I buying all these for and not having time to use.
Time out just got an alert from security cams, squirrels in yard….

 

[SpindleB]

Execution should be easy
A tee with pair of 90.
Problem is that the M18 tees available are not wide enough. It *may* be possible that the new Alsafe thinner / longer bottles will work. I would imagine a tube would work.

 

[SpindleB]

Matt, I’m up to 8 guns and a drs coming Tuesday. Got 2 squirrels today with Rex rpa after my layoff. Now I’m gonna oil my Kratos stock which needs some shine. I guess I’m just saying what am I buying all these for and not having time to use.
Time out just got an alert from security cams, squirrels in yard….

Love my reolink with "pet detection".
I have seen 1 squirrel in the last 4 months.
My neighbor thinks we got the mom's last year and the babies didn't survive.

 

[Firewalker]

From various reviews and instructional videos on YouTube, I've seen a couple different approaches to the issue of Zelos bottle conversions.

1. It is OK to fill the new bottle up to its rated working pressure (e.g. 4500 psi) without an additional step down pressure regulator between the bottle pressure and the gun.

2. You need to have an additional step down regulator with outlet pressure set at ~3625 psi between the bottle and the gun since the Umarex regulator in the gun is only designed to see 3625 psi. Higher pressures on the high side of the regulator will/may cause damage to the Umarex regulator.

It there a definitive "truth" between these two approaches to a bottle conversion? I'd really like to know which approach is correct as I have ordered a Zelos bottle adaptor (w/o additional regulator) and a 500 cc bottle.

The "truth" is that Umarex designed and tested the Zelos to 3625 psi and anything added to further regulate it or adding more pressure is against thier operating parameters and voids your warranty.

3625 psi is a reasonable pressure IMHO.

Adding a second regulator also increases your risk of a cantilevered failure, this is also not in the specifications established by Umarex/SPA.

 

[DSLeach]

The "truth" is that Umarex designed and tested the Zelos to 3625 psi and anything added to further regulate it or adding more pressure is against thier operating parameters and voids your warranty.

3625 psi is a reasonable pressure IMHO.

Adding a second regulator also increases your risk of a cantilevered failure, this is also not in the specifications established by Umarex/SPA.

You are answering a question not asked. I didn't ask about impact on the warranty. I asked if the Umarex regulator would handle higher input pressures.

 

[Firewalker]

You are answering a question not asked. I didn't ask about impact on the warranty. I asked if the Umarex regulator would handle higher input pressures.

True but its valid in any case and useful to others even if you dont wish to read the reply.

 

[OldVet]

The new big dog bottle adapter for the Zelos seems like a lot of air 1.1 liters , and the weight is almost the same as the 500 cc aluminum bottle I have on mine. It's $135 though , and I could buy the 700 cc CFB for that. I did get a response from David in a video , and it would iffy as the with the Huben reg , and Tuxing bottle would be the same length , so it is possible maybe that the curvature of the bottle would allow for the ldc to be Mounted , and bring it past the bottle length. I also don't understand why the 5,000 psi burst disc on the Zelos. To be useful the plenum would have to handle 4,999 psi before the disc ruptured. I still feel that a max of 3625 should be used as of unknown valve lock , or damage to to the internal reg.

 

[charlie99]

Has anyone purchased the Huben regulator adapter for the zelos recently? If so, how long did it take to ship/receive it? I placed my order on the 15th of February and it stills shows as unfulfilled.

 

[SpindleB]

Has anyone purchased the Huben regulator adapter for the zelos recently? If so, how long did it take to ship/receive it? I placed my order on the 15th of February and it stills shows as unfulfilled.

Was exchanging emails with Nick Scott last week about slow shipping. They have been tied up with some issue dealing with what I think is clocking, could be sealing, it was clear to me.

Either way I nagged him and my Cricket Max-ATH got shipped out the next day. Received it yesterday.

So, email him and ask where your regulator is.

-- Matt

 

[blackdog899]

Was exchanging emails with Nick Scott last week about slow shipping. They have been tied up with some issue dealing with what I think is clocking, could be sealing, it was clear to me.

Either way I nagged him and my Cricket Max-ATH got shipped out the next day. Received it yesterday.

So, email him and ask where your regulator is.

-- Matt

After trying to find a proper adapter and failing said f it and ordered one last night.

 

[SpindleB]

After trying to find a proper adapter and failing said f it and ordered one last night.

Huben Power are the best Bottle to gun regulators. The don't drift, they are well supported. The only problem is they are expensive.