Light trigger...prove it.

[Motorhead]

No need for a gauge as it is Only a number ... the ACTUAL FEEL in its stages and the shot firing break point is what maters.
Well north of 1000 trigger jobs / tunes on customers air guns, the need for a trigger weight gauge has never been required.

 

[WoodWelder]

I use a fish scale?

 

[Trucker3573]

I use a fish scale?

Lol. You need a lighter trigger or to catch bigger fish

 

[Tisbutascratch21]

I dont have a pull tester, but only 1 hour ago i adjusted the #2 stage on my Epic Tow, and it is now significant lighter, to a level where you have to be damn careful when you reach the end of stage #1
Also damn close to where you can not cock the rifle and the trigger engage to hold the hammer, so right on the ragged edge.

I gotz no measure-o-meter, to tell me a number,,, and I don't need one, or care what the number is

I gotz my finger to tell me how good or bad it feels,,, so I am good,,, if it ain't good, I fix it

I cannot overstate how much I enjoy this reply.

 

[humbled.ag]

Shot with a factory trigger, no sear work or adjustment. CZ457 .22rf off the knee, 50ft. About 1.5lb pull weight.

 

[elh0102]

I dont have a pull tester, but only 1 hour ago i adjusted the #2 stage on my Epic Tow, and it is now significant lighter, to a level where you have to be damn careful when you reach the end of stage #1
Also damn close to where you can not cock the rifle and the trigger engage to hold the hammer, so right on the ragged edge.

I'm not familiar with that trigger, but unless it is a true two-stage trigger in which the second stage sear is not in its cocked position until the first stage travel is accomplished, then you have a potentially dangerous trigger. It is probably adjusted beyond its design parameters, and to borrow your words, you should be damn careful.

 

[Peashooter]

I will indeed be, i also have a photo in my phone of the Epic guide to the trigger adjustments, so if i feel bad can dial on the correct screws to get back to a better place.

You do feel the end of the #1 stage, but you do not have to lean on that very much before it go off.
I will evaluate on next outing or two and make a educated descension on what to do moving forward. safety is a must even if we Danes are locked to the pea caliber.
The trigger is modular, and Epic recommend you have 2 trigger assemblies if you need a hair trigger for bench work, and one a bit more tactile if you go hunting.

 

[elh0102]

I will indeed be, i also have a photo in my phone of the Epic guide to the trigger adjustments, so if i feel bad can dial on the correct screws to get back to a better place.

You do feel the end of the #1 stage, but you do not have to lean on that very much before it go off.
I will evaluate on next outing or two and make a educated descension on what to do moving forward. safety is a must even if we Danes are locked to the pea caliber.
The trigger is modular, and Epic recommend you have 2 trigger assemblies if you need a hair trigger for bench work, and one a bit more tactile if you go hunting.

Again, I don't have that trigger to inspect, but I suspect that you have one of the many fake two-stage triggers, in which there is a single firing sear, and it is in its final position as soon as the rifle is cocked. Some are very good triggers, but they do not contain the safety design of a true two-stage trigger, and you must have a minimum safety margin in the sear engagement.

 

[Peashooter]

Yeah.
The Two trigger do feel a lot better than the trigger on my Maverick, which i think i have also meddled with at some point.

Yesterday i lighted 1 stage pull force on screw #5 and then trigger force on screw #4, both was turned less than 1 revolution. And even that was too much for trigger force so it would not lock hammer before i backed off a bit on that.

I will " knock " my rifle around a little on next visit to the shot shed, CUZ i can easy make do with a harder trigger like i have used in the past 10 months.


ATM i am hot the the Macavity arms MA8 that was on display at shot show, that’s a electric trigger rifle and so i assume that will be able to satisfy my hair trigger obsession

 

[JEFFPPC]

If you really want the truth you use dead weight.

 

[humbled.ag]

If you really want the truth you use dead weight.

What good is a dead trigger??

 

[JEFFPPC]

What good is a dead trigger??

They don't talk back.

 

[RM100GUY]

Taipan Veteran type 1 trigger group. I have four Taipans and all adjusted to my standard...no honing or polishing...just tweaking the various adjustment screws. Anyone who desires

a nice crisp "light" trigger...I highly recommend a Veteran...The only equal to or better was one I experienced with a RAW TM 1000.

 

[AirNGasman]

Nobody takes your statement as valid,

I DO!

But that's only because I have 71 years of life experience, 70 years of shooting experience, 60 years of measurement-gauges (of all kinds) experience, 50 years of gunsmithing experience, and 40 years of competitive shooting experience. Gauges depending on a spring are some of the most notoriously inaccurate; like a trigger-pull gauge I used for years that displayed wide extreme spreads even on the best triggers and technique. Averages taken on wide spreads aren't very a accurate reflection.

I now use a digital TP gauge that displays ESs within a few tenths of an ounce (or better) on the most consistent triggers. At that point accuracy falls more on technique, than the gauge itself.

.

 

[woogie_man]

People need to understand that there is a tolerance with any gauge. And if you use it incorrectly you will produce incorrect numbers.

Set the trigger until it feels good for you, and just shoot. I have a bench rest trigger that goes down to a few grams. Not needed and honesty when the weight gets down low enough you are unable to tell the difference. The vast majority of people couldn't tell the difference between a 2 gram trigger set and a 3 gram. Though many will tell you they can.

 

[woogie_man]

I DO!

But that's only because I have 71 years of life experience, 70 years of shooting experience, 60 years of measurement-gauges (of all kinds) experience, 50 years of gunsmithing experience, and 40 years of competitive shooting experience. Gauges depending on a spring are some of the most notoriously inaccurate; like a trigger-pull gauge I used for years that displayed wide extreme spreads even on the best triggers and technique. Averages taken on wide spreads aren't very a accurate reflection.

I now use a digital TP gauge that displays ESs within a few tenths of an ounce (or better) on the most consistent triggers. At that point accuracy falls more on technique, than the gauge itself.

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THANK YOU! Exactly my point.

 

[elh0102]

Taipan Veteran type 1 trigger group. I have four Taipans and all adjusted to my standard...no honing or polishing...just tweaking the various adjustment screws. Anyone who desiresView attachment 545847 a nice crisp "light" trigger...I highly recommend a Veteran...The only equal to or better was one I experienced with a RAW TM 1000.

The Veteran trigger is a good example of a fake two-stage trigger that works well, it's an excellent trigger. In adjusting it, you just need to remember that it's really single stage, and set your sear engagement accordingly.

 

[Airgunmann]

Raw triggers or redwolf delta wolf electronic trigger are really nice to

 

[Firewalker]

THANK YOU! Exactly my point.

The point is lost...

 

[elh0102]

People need to understand that there is a tolerance with any gauge. And if you use it incorrectly you will produce incorrect numbers.

Set the trigger until it feels good for you, and just shoot. I have a bench rest trigger that goes down to a few grams. Not needed and honesty when the weight gets down low enough you are unable to tell the difference. The vast majority of people couldn't tell the difference between a 2 gram trigger set and a 3 gram. Though many will tell you they can.

Well, both of your examples are less than one ounce, so yeah, most folks could not distinguish a difference.