Talk about disappointment. Vector

[boscoebrea]

A higher-quality scope can "see" better at less power.I mean, 10 power is not 10 power; some cheaper scopes need to be cranked up to higher power to perform.
For sure, you do not need to spend more money on a scope that satisfies your needs.
Resolution and nuances are important to me.I am a glasser, and optics is one of my favorite things, as is music. I am also an audiophile,so again, resolution and nuances are important to me.
I buy used,so I can afford the better equipment.
We each have our needs and wants.Be happy with what you have,or save for something better while enjoying what you have.

 

[steve123]

Or don't spend several hundreds of dollars on a scope for a pellet gun and then you don't have to worry about lifetime warranty. One that lets you hit what you are aiming at out to 50 or 100 yards is all you need. PCP rifle doesn't have enough kick to break down a good basic scope like a Spina or CVLife.

Unless you shoot competitive anything more is overkill.

Springers do require a more robust scope than PCP.

"Or" me I'd rather not take the chance losing $200 instead vs spending $400 and not being concerned if it breaks because worse comes to worse some companies will either repair or replace it no matter how long I've had it.

Also, as an example, a friend named Randy noticed his Daystate Regal wasn't grouping as good as it used to after having it and the scope for 5 years. He had our other friend who has two of the same gun, and who knows them well as far as rebuilding and tuning, trying to find the problem. This tuner friend couldn't figure it out after going through the rifle rebuilding it. The first friend Randy put another scope on the gun as a test and it shot great again so something had gone wrong with the G1 scope. He sent it back and the company sent him a brand new G2 scope. That was 1.5 years ago. If this one were to go down he'd likely get a G3 scope returned to him - and so on. So it cost him $320 to begin with, and got a $380 scope returned to him, and if that scope went down he'd get a, just guessing a $420 scope.

I had the same G1 scope for 4 years, got high score at state, and high score at a bunch of monthly matches throughout those years with no problems. My point is things break. Warranty, warranty, warranty.

I'm kind of a miser in some ways and the few times I compromised by buying cheap scopes I was severely let down by them. Last time was when I bought one at Big5 and it was DOA. Thankfully I just took it back for a refund.
I'm not taking the chance anymore.

 

[SpindleB]

I always read about all the deficiencies of my $100-$135 scopes and yet I never have seen even one of them. Almost like the ones I buy are of good quality and don't have those deficiencies.

For example the plethora of positive reviews of the CVLife BearSwift 5-24x56 FFP SFIR scope. None of the reviews I saw mention even 1 of the listed deficiencies.

I don't buy used scopes. For one thing the lifetime warranty for scopes like Hawke is only the registered original owner. I do have some used scopes but those came with rifles I bought.

But then I also think $2,500 for a pellet gun is insane. Especially when you can spend $650 delivered for a Reximex Throne 2 that matches up almost 1:1 with those $2,500 rifles.

 

[SpindleB]

"Or" me I'd rather not take the chance losing $200 instead vs spending $400 and not being concerned if it breaks because worse comes to worse some companies will either repair or replace it no matter how long I've had it.

Also, as an example, a friend named Randy noticed his Daystate Regal wasn't grouping as good as it used to after having it and the scope for 5 years. He had our other friend who has two of the same gun, and who knows them well as far as rebuilding and tuning, trying to find the problem. This tuner friend couldn't figure it out after going through the rifle rebuilding it. The first friend Randy put another scope on the gun as a test and it shot great again so something had gone wrong with the G1 scope. He sent it back and the company sent him a brand new G2 scope. That was 1.5 years ago. If this one were to go down he'd likely get a G3 scope returned to him - and so on. So it cost him $320 to begin with, and got a $380 scope returned to him, and if that scope went down he'd get a, just guessing a $420 scope.

I had the same G1 scope for 4 years, got high score at state, and high score at a bunch of monthly matches throughout those years with no problems. My point is things break. Warranty, warranty, warranty.

I'm kind of a miser in some ways and the few times I compromised by buying cheap scopes I was severely let down. Last time was when I bought one at Big5 and it was DOA. Thankfully I just took it back for a refund.
I'm not taking the chance anymore.

Not hard to do research on the internet these days to find that Chinese scopes have improved significantly. Mostly because they are building or providing the optics these days for the more expensive scopes. They are quite good at *borrowing* technology.

 

[Sawney Bean]

I think that Joe Rhea, (Cyclops Videos), does a real good job of dispelling a lot of this. The relevant part starts at around 4:00.

 

[SpindleB]

I think that Joe Rhea, (Cyclops Videos), does a real good job of dispelling a lot of this. The relevant part starts at around 4:00.

No comparisons involved, my point is that air rifles for probably 90% of their use do not require anything more than a low cost FFP SFIR scope. If you are shooting longer distance or competing then sure better scope is necessary. 50 yards or less a pinty AO for 40 bucks will hit the same target as a $2000 Leupold.

 

[JaceSpace1369]

I don't think this issue is terribly unique, unfortunately. I sometimes test at 5 yard intervals from 10 to 35 yards. I want to check on what I get from chairgun. My Arken EPL4 6-24 will not focus at 10 yards nor will my Vector Veyron 6-24. My Athlon scopes will. I think any of them will focus at 13 yards, however. Trusting my memory is iffy but I think they were OK by 12 yards. Not focusing at 13 is pretty far off.

I haven't tried my Arken 4-16x50, but my vector 10x44 sfp focuses down to 10yds and my BSA sweet 17 3-12x42 focuses to 7yds

 

[beerthief]

Where did you read " focus down to 10 yards" in that exact scope specification list OR the general Advertisement of that LINE of scope statement ?

 

[blackdog899]

I think that Joe Rhea, (Cyclops Videos), does a real good job of dispelling a lot of this. The relevant part starts at around 4:00.

Ohhh man this guy is hilarious, gonna look him up .

 

[blackdog899]

I haven't tried my Arken 4-16x50, but my vector 10x44 sfp focuses down to 10yds and my BSA sweet 17 3-12x42 focuses to 7yds

Jace I’ve got the Arken EPL4 4-16 and it does go down to 10 yards. I would have bought another Arken but the rest in this price range and higher are all more minimum focus.

 

[JaceSpace1369]

Jace I’ve got the Arken EPL4 4-16 and it does go down to 10 yards. I would have bought another Arken but the rest in this price range and higher are all more minimum focus.

I have the sh4, I believe mine only goes down to 25yds. But nice to know the EPL goes to 10yds! I hear ya though.

 

[blackdog899]

They sent me a return label.

 

[Itsme Nobody]

I feel for you.. I hate also when hunting rats, and some of those pesky shtters come to 7yrd distance and I have to tilt my .50 Barret to aim so low with my tripod.. Also makes a mess..