🔴 Decision Tool for "What gun should I buy?" 🔵

🔴 Decision Tool for "What gun should I buy?" 🔵


When...​

...someone pops THE question:
"What gun should I buy?"

Then...​

...here are some questions that will help answer THE question. 😃
(The focus is on PCPs, though some of this also works for springers.)


➠ Naturally, some gun characteristics will be more costly or are harder to find. The tool below will help you narrow down what is truly important for you and to develop compromises.

➠ Feel free to assign levels of importance, with X or ★, e.g.:
★★★ = indispensible
★★ = important
★ = nice but not needed



1️⃣
How much money are you planning to spend?
(Did you consider a scope? And a source of high pressure air — pump, tank, or compressor?)
(Have you evaluated the risk of having to sleep in the dog house for a few nights? 😉)



2️⃣
Do you want a gun made in USA?
➠ Then look for a short list of brands (list below), with even fewer models available.¹



3️⃣
Are you so enarmored with very high quality — that you are willing to pay the price?
➠ Then look for brands that are made other than in Turkey or China (except Huben).



4️⃣
Do you really like a certain style of gun — long rifle, bullpup, pistol, tactical stock, traditional stock, gaudy colored stock?
➠ Good news! There is a gun for every fancy. 😍



5️⃣
Do you want semi-auto or full-auto?
➠ Their fun factor is undeniable, however their practical use is very limited.
And the number of available models is extremely small.
(Almost all PCPs have multi-shot magazines.)



6️⃣
Do you want to shoot your gun at longer ranges (80y+), or do precision shooting (competitions)?
➠ Then look for guns than have a regulator.²
➠ And look for guns of higher quality.



7️⃣
Do you want to shoot slugs?
(Slugs are affected a lot less by wind drift, which plagues airgunners much more than powder burners. They carry more power downrange for larger quarry. And they are the way to go for shooting out to 100y and beyond.)
➠ Then look for:
● Guns that have a unchoked barrel.³
● Or guns that offer barrels or barrel liners that can be changed to one that works with slugs.



8️⃣
Do you want to be able to change the caliber⁴ of your gun, or the length of your barrel?
➠ Then look for brands and models that allow that, and there are rather few that do, usually the pricier models.



9️⃣
Do you plan to lug your gun around for hours (walking hunts)?
➠ Then look for a lighter rifle, 6 ½ lbs (3.0kg) or less.
● Pistols⁵ are a lot lighter, of course
● Bullpups, compact models, and synthetic stocks save some weight, usually
● If the gun has an air bottle, it should not be of aluminum, but carbon fiber



🔟
Do you like/need short guns?
(Maybe to pack it easily, or for airline travel, or to conceal it easily, or to shoot from a vehicle?)
➠ Then look for, in this order:
● Pistols⁵
● Bullpups
● FSRs (folding stock rifles)
● Compact models of bullpups and long rifles ["compact" meaning they come with a shorter barrel, usually under 500mm, making them less powerful and/or louder — but not less precise]



1️⃣1️⃣
Do you plan to use your gun as a tool (instead of babying it, or only using it in controlled environments like your porch or at competitions)?
➠ Then look for:
● Guns that will not change their point of impact when the barrel/shroud hits a branch, or comes out of your backpack (many FX guns are said to be somewhat sensitive...).
● Synthetic stocks rather than wood or lamiante
● Higher priced guns usually are higher quality and thus more robust



1️⃣2️⃣
Do you like to make power adjustments to your gun?
(Because you want to adapt it to different weight ammo, or because you like to tinker)?
➠ Then look for guns that allow for the external adjustment of both the regulator⁶ and the hammer spring.



1️⃣3️⃣
Do you need a high shot count⁷?
➠ Then look for guns with a bottle as air reservoir.
Usually, the shorter guns (compacts, pistols) have less air.
➠ Look for guns with an air reservoir rated for higher pressure (at least 250bar = 3600psi).
(Of course, carrying a small 1L or 2L air bottle as reserve in a backpack solves the need for air, and makes the gun lighter.)



1️⃣4️⃣
"What caliber should I buy?"
➠ That is a whole discussion by itself....




🟦
FOOTNOTES:

¹Made in the USA:

The first three economical, the latter not:
▪Benjamin
▪Crosman (some models)
▪Umarex USA (some models)
▪American Air Arms
▪SKOUT
▪Western Airguns (auto and/or big bore)
▪RAW (Rapid Air Worx)
▪AirForce Air Guns (high power)
▪Serpent Arms (high power, and shotguns)
▪Quackenbush Air Guns (custom big bore, now retired)
▪XP-Airguns (custom big bore)
▪Thomas Air (top competition guns)


²Regulator:
Most guns nowadays come with a regulator, but certain brands (Hatsan, Kral) and some less pricey models do not. However, almost all can be fitted with an aftermarket regulator for $100 (Huma, Altaros, Lane).


³Unchoked barrel:
That limits the options to very few brands, and usually the pricier models.
With some luck many guns with choked barrels seem to shoot slugs with mediocre precision at shorter ranges, say 50y.
Also, slugs usually require significantly higher power than pellets.


⁴Models that allow changing the caliber:
Going by what airgun forum members have reported: Once a gun is all set up and dialed in, power, ammo, scope, etc. — users are hesitant to change all that and start over, just to shoot a different caliber. The caliber change option might be one that many pay for, but few actually exercise.


⁵Pistols:
Pistols are rare: for every pistol model there must be at least 10 rifle models on the market. Pistols have significantly less power (e.g.: a typical .22cal rifle has 30FPE, a typical pistol has half of that, though there are exceptions [Huben GK1]). And they have a smaller shot count due to their smaller air reservoir.


⁶Guns with external power adjustments:
▪Most PCP's can be adjusted internally, i.e., when disassembled — something that requires time, patience, tools, and some mechanical skills (Youtube offers some instructionals).
▪Many PCPs allow the external adjustment of the hammer spring — "external" meaning no disassembly required.
▪Some PCPs allow the external adjustment of both hammer spring and regulator. Some even add valve adjustment. These are usually the pricier models.
▪Most "power adjusters" and economical guns (e.g., Hatsan) only limit the transfer port to reduce the air going into the barrel, but this reduction does not increase shot count.


⁷A typical shot count for a typical gun with typical characteristics:
40 to 50 shots — with a .22cal air rifle, with a 250cc air reservoir, rated at 250bar, at 30FPE of power.
Larger calibers use more air.




Cheers, 😊

Matthias



PS: @Moderator2
Would this post be valuable if placed in the "How to airgun stuff" sub-forum?
 
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Matthias!

As usual, a well formatted and interesting read, especially for the purpose intended.
I will say that you may have left out one of the American manufacturer's....SKOUT.
Nice job overall though, Matthias!

Mike


Right on it, thanks for the tip and the kudos! 😊

Matthias
 
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Those threads have become my personal least favorite. Even surpassing the can’t use the classifieds or pms. Those are some good ideas though. 👍. I just choose to pass them by anymore as the only thing seemingly produced are 500 different suggestions and it would seem further confusion. I think people should do a little more research on their own and narrow the field and never ask the broad question of what gun out of all the guns should I get.
 

🔴 Decision Tool for "What gun should I buy?" 🔵


When...​

...someone pops THE question:
"What gun should I buy?"

Then...​

...here are some questions that will help answer THE question. 😃
(The focus is on PCPs, though some of this also works for springers.)


➠ Naturally, some gun characteristics will be more costly or are harder to find. The tool below will help you narrow down what is truly important for you and to develop compromises.

➠ Feel free to assign levels of importance, with X or ★, e.g.:
★★★ = indispensible
★★ = important
★ = nice but not needed



1️⃣
How much money are you planning to spend?
(Did you consider a scope? And a source of high pressure air — pump, tank, or compressor?)
(Have you evaluated the risk of having to sleep in the dog house for a few nights? 😉)



2️⃣
Do you want a gun made in USA?
➠ Then look for a short list of brands (list below), with even fewer models available.¹



3️⃣
Are you so enarmored with very high quality — that you are willing to pay the price?
➠ Then look for brands that are made other than in Turkey or China (except Huben).



4️⃣
Do you really like a certain style of gun — long rifle, bullpup, pistol, tactical stock, traditional stock, gaudy colored stock?
➠ Good news! There is a gun for every fancy. 😍



5️⃣
Do you want semi-auto or full-auto?
➠ Their fun factor is undeniable, however their practical use is very limited.
And the number of available models is extremely small.
(Almost all PCPs have multi-shot magazines.)



6️⃣
Do you want to shoot your gun at longer ranges (80y+), or do precision shooting (competitions)?
➠ Then look for guns than have a regulator.²
➠ And look for guns of higher quality.



7️⃣
Do you want to shoot slugs?
(Slugs are affected a lot less by wind drift, which plagues airgunners much more than powder burners. They carry more power downrange for larger quarry. And they are the way to go for shooting out to 100y and beyond.)
➠ Then look for:
● Guns that have a unchoked barrel.³
● Or guns that offer barrels or barrel liners that can be changed to one that works with slugs.



8️⃣
Do you want to be able to change the caliber⁴ of your gun, or the length of your barrel?
➠ Then look for brands and models that allow that, and there are rather few that do, usually the pricier models.



9️⃣
Do you plan to lug your gun around for hours (walking hunts)?
➠ Then look for a lighter rifle, 6 ½ lbs (3.0kg) or less.
● Pistols⁵ are a lot lighter, of course
● Bullpups, compact models, and synthetic stocks save some weight, usually
● If the gun has an air bottle, it should not be of aluminum, but carbon fiber



🔟
Do you like/need short guns?
(Maybe to pack it easily, or for airline travel, or to conceal it easily, or to shoot from a vehicle?)
➠ Then look for, in this order:
● Pistols⁵
● Bullpups
● FSRs (folding stock rifles)
● Compact models of bullpups and long rifles ["compact" meaning they come with a shorter barrel, usually under 500mm, making them less powerful and/or louder — but not less precise]



1️⃣1️⃣
Do you plan to use your gun as a tool (instead of babying it, or only using it in controlled environments like your porch or at competitions)?
➠ Then look for:
● Guns that will not change their point of impact when the barrel/shroud hits a branch, or comes out of your backpack (many FX guns are said to be somewhat sensitive...).
● Synthetic stocks rather than wood or lamiante
● Higher priced guns usually are higher quality and thus more robust



1️⃣2️⃣
Do you like to make power adjustments to your gun?
(Because you want to adapt it to different weight ammo, or because you like to tinker)?
➠ Then look for guns that allow for the external adjustment of both the regulator⁶ and the hammer spring.



1️⃣3️⃣
Do you need a high shot count⁷?
➠ Then look for guns with a bottle as air reservoir.
Usually, the shorter guns (compacts, pistols) have less air.
➠ Look for guns with an air reservoir rated for higher pressure (at least 250bar = 3600psi).
(Of course, carrying a small 1L or 2L air bottle as reserve in a backpack solves the need for air, and makes the gun lighter.)



1️⃣4️⃣
"What caliber should I buy?"
➠ That is a whole discussion by itself....




🟦
FOOTNOTES:

¹Made in the USA:

The first three economical, the latter not:
▪Benjamin
▪Crosman (some models)
▪Umarex USA (some models)
▪American Air Arms
▪SKOUT
▪Western Airguns (auto and/or big bore)
▪RAW (Rapid Air Worx)
▪AirForce Air Guns (high power)
▪Quackenbush Air Guns (custom big bore)
▪XP-Airguns (custom big bore)
▪Thomas Air (top competition guns)


²Regulator:
Most guns nowadays come with a regulator, but certain brands (Hatsan, Kral) and some less pricey models do not. However, almost all can be fitted with an aftermarket regulator for $100 (Huma, Altaros, Lane).


³Unchoked barrel:
That limits the options to very few brands, and usually the pricier models.
With some luck many guns with choked barrels seem to shoot slugs with mediocre precision at shorter ranges, say 50y.
Also, slugs usually require significantly higher power than pellets.


⁴Models that allow changing the caliber:
Going by what airgun forum members have reported: Once a gun is all set up and dialed in, power, ammo, scope, etc. — users are hesitant to change all that and start over, just to shoot a different caliber. The caliber change option might be one that many pay for, but few actually exercise.


⁵Pistols:
Pistols are rare: for every pistol model there must be at least 10 rifle models on the market. Pistols have significantly less power (e.g.: a typical .22cal rifle has 30FPE, a typical pistol has half of that, though there are exceptions [Huben GK1]). And they have a smaller shot count due to their smaller air reservoir.


⁶Guns with external power adjustments:
▪Most PCP's can be adjusted internally, i.e., when disassembled — something that requires time, patience, tools, and some mechanical skills (Youtube offers some instructionals).
▪Many PCPs allow the external adjustment of the hammer spring — "external" meaning no disassembly required.
▪Some PCPs allow the external adjustment of both hammer spring and regulator. Some even add valve adjustment. These are usually the pricier models.
▪Most "power adjusters" and economical guns (e.g., Hatsan) only limit the transfer port to reduce the air going into the barrel, but this reduction does not increase shot count.


⁷A typical shot count for a typical gun with typical characteristics:
40 to 50 shots — with a .22cal air rifle, with a 250cc air reservoir, rated at 250bar, at 30FPE of power.
Larger calibers use more air.




Cheers, 😊

Matthias



PS: @Moderator2
Would this post be valuable if placed in the "How to airgun stuff" sub-forum?
I was just thinking about this yesterday and was going to ask Michael to do a sticky thread so a new airgunner could copy, paste, and answer the questions before posting to get a more accurate recommendation rather than a biased "I own this, or so and so did this on YouTube"
Thank you for this. It's far better than anything I could have typed up!
 
I'm not sure why it is so difficult for new airgunners (especially PCP) to do some research prior to asking potentially dumb questions. That's the great thing about such forums with a cornucopia of information! I am a newbie and did quite a bit of reading before deciding upon a Notos as a good first PCP. I can take it down and put it back together with my eyes closed. It's ironic that a greenhorn such as myself is already tired of seeing the topic "Which gun should I buy"! lol
 
So, you're saying that it's okay to continually answer questions on this Forum about which air rifle to buy (and getting many more "preferred" answers muddying the waters)?
It seems that perhaps most are not as adept as you seem to be at researching and prefer to ask questions (repeatedly) about which air rifle is the best.
I think that JungleShooter is spot on to have a go to resource to at least help determine which road to take, THEN ask more pertinent, specific questions about a more specific rifle.
My 2¢

mike
 
Nice...BUT...

The ones that SHOULD read the above...WON'T !
They are too busy typing..."what gun should I buy", in their own thread !

Mike
you are always spot on Mike..I love reading everything you post.. unfortunately I am sure there's others like me that should read something but well haven't found it or seen it..
I totally agree though that one should do their best at researching before typing..
also better yet those that type some of the answers that are professional know it all but when you read what they typed compared to you and several others.. that actually have said guns and actual real life experiences.. well would be nice to see more actual knowledge like you and quite a few other members that,I forget the names but I instantly recognize them when I see their name..
actual pro real life knowledge..
the OP is one of the group that I like..
Mark
 
So, you're saying that it's okay to continually answer questions on this Forum about which air rifle to buy (and getting many more "preferred" answers muddying the waters)?
It seems that perhaps most are not as adept as you seem to be at researching and prefer to ask questions (repeatedly) about which air rifle is the best.
I think that JungleShooter is spot on to have a go to resource to at least help determine which road to take, THEN ask more pertinent, specific questions about a more specific rifle.
My 2¢

mike
One would think spending that much money they would do their homework and seek an expert advice like Mr. Hollow Point, Rick Rehm etc.
 
One would think spending that much money they would do their homework and seek an expert advice like Mr. Hollow Point, Rick Rehm etc.
how do you contact Mr. Hollow Point? Rick Rehm? can't say I remember or recognize those names.. are they like on YouTube or Airgun dealers or here on AGN..
because I have a few questions, hopefully good ones and narrowed down to just a few.. actually before I saw this wonderful list of selection steps.. but I also know that there's a awful lot of guns that I don't know about.. and some I know exist and are on the list but I'm failing to find specific answers and so if I don't know,I don't proceed.. I have thought about starting a thread asking questions but I honestly don't want answers from just a salesman, that wants to sell only his product.. yes I'm leary of sales people.. and yet I feel like I need to ask some specific questions to narrow it down more and also make sure there's not one that is more ideally suited for my use.. correct tool for the job..
any of you guys are welcome to PM me if you want to talk and help me with my ideas on what to do.
thank you
Mark