I've been involved in various BR sports for over 50 years. The idea that a 30X scope is needed for precise aiming at 13 yards is simply ridiculous.
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Talk about disappointment. Vector
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I have been considering a Vector 6-24 that is supposed to parallax focus to 10 yards. Now I am wondering if it really will focus to 10 yards.
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You were looking for 10 yard focus and you paid for a scope that was advertised to focus at 10. It just be a typo on their page so They should make good.
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It's not that you need a 30x scope to shoot at 10 yards, but rather that you will almost certainly end up shooting at 10 yards sometime and when that time comes it's nice to know that your scope can focus.
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Overscoping some airguns, particularly at certain ranges, ahem, 10 yards!!! With huemongus scopes is simply shoe horning a ting…
More magnification does not necessarily mean tighter groups. 30x at 10 yards seems…? Just about right
depending on the the shooter. I like smaller and lighter scopes these days and will compromise for that form factor.I lift at work, for fun? Heck no! Cannot get enough of, light is right for my needs.
More magnification does not necessarily mean tighter groups. 30x at 10 yards seems…? Just about right depending on the the shooter. I like smaller and lighter scopes these days and will compromise for that form factor.I lift at work, for fun? Heck no! Cannot get enough of, light is right for my needs.Upvote 0
It's not for the average person, but I think some guys have eye problems and need all the help they can get.I have scopes for short ranges and ones for longer ranges. These guys must be using study supports a lot. Also, I have always been into Aesthetics.I going to count my blessings and hope everybody can be happy.
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All my scopes are either Leupold or Vortex scopes not one parallax lower than 30yrds.
My very first Vector Continental I purchased super cheap a few weeks ago and I'm really happy with the optic. I can guarantee, I'll never need to set the parallax lower than 30. Something I'm use to I guess, or blessed with good eyes?
My very first Vector Continental I purchased super cheap a few weeks ago and I'm really happy with the optic. I can guarantee, I'll never need to set the parallax lower than 30. Something I'm use to I guess, or blessed with good eyes?
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I bought it to use at max power of 30. It’s sold as a 10 yard minimum. Two Athlons, one Arken, and one Element were bought having 10 yards. Why would I be satisfied with Vector being 15 yards ?
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I have never owned a FFP Scope.
I have been looking at the
Spina 5 x 30 x 56 FFP it's price for a FFP is very good at only $169 on Amazon. I believe this one is called a iron claw. However the Other Spina scope I am interested in is the
Spina 6 x 36 x 56 glass etched reticle.
This one is not a FFP , but I really like the o zero , or circle in the center of the reticle. The price on this is $139.
My question is I never looked into a FFP scope , so if I was to make a choice of these 2 which one should I get. The non FFP Scope has a bit stronger magnification, and the circle I like in the reticle. They both have
Fully multi coated lenses. Should I just buy both , and decide , or can you help me decide by your experience with Spina. Thanks OldVet wants to know.
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FFP because the reticle zooms too.
FFP the reticle is in front of the zoom.
The SFP the reticle stays the same size regarless of zoom
SFP the reticle is after the zoom.
At a certain point the magnification is so much the target is jumping all around.
My Spina are usually
4.5-27x56
5-22x50
I like Spina scopes, good quality and good prices.
I don't know anything about higher priced scopes.
I dont get the need to spend $500 for a scope on a pellet gun unless you are doing competition shooting.
The CVlife Bearpower is the most expensive scope I own, $118 plus shipping from Alibaba.
Took over 3 weeks to get here, arrived yesterday.
It kind of depends on the scope and what you intend on doing with it. So the obvious thing of course is that FFP keeps the same reticle spacing across the full range of magnification. This is nice and somewhat problematic at the same time. Say you have a 5-25x scope and you plot your holdovers at different ranges. Well, there’s no math or anything involved. Just use the same holdover on any power. The problem is that below about 10x you will only be able to use the crosshair portion of the reticle because all the extra stuff will become too small to see and at 25x the reticle will likely be a bit thicker than you would like and might partially obscure your target. Despite these problems though, in general they have done a good job of designing these reticles and at low power you just use it like you would a duplex reticle and at high power the reticle is still fine enough for anything but the most precise target shooting.
SFP are just the same old reticles like we’ve had for decades now. The reticle stays the same size throughout its range, but the image changes relative to it, so you have to do a little math if you want to use both holdover and different magnifications. I personally don’t find the math involved to be at all difficult. Not having to do the math is nice, but so is having a reticle that remains the ideal size regardless of magnification.
Some day soon digital scopes will take over and we’ll have the advantages of both SFP and FFP in the same scope.
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Not to me ! When I shot 22lr 50 yard bench I shot with my silhouette gun which had the common Leupold 6.5-20 efr.
Great for offhand where too much power doesn’t help because of movement. Always said to self change scope for bench competition, too lazy and didn’t want to mess with a winning gun. Shooting NRA f class and f-tr 1000 yards more power is only usable depending on mirage. I had a Sightron 10-50x60 and couldn’t use much more than 35x. It’s been a real winter here and short range cellar and back yard pesting is all I got. The scope I have on my RAW hw is a new Athlon Ares 15-60 and in cellar use all 60X. I shoot at these homemade targets. I don’t shoot at the X I shoot at the utmost corner. Judging pellet performance at this range requires no movement off the point of aim and I can pinpoint it better than my lower power scopes. I read competitive benchmarks shooters are going higher and higher in power with March making 80x scopes. Now who would need that for 50 tiny yards. I think your showing your ignorance and insulting.
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As I had previously responded, I misunderstood your use of the high mag scopes. Please excuse my insulting ignorance and have a good day.
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I appreciate your reply and sincerely regret hitting back at you after “ getting my feelings hurt “
thankyou,
Mike
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I'd make sure the warranty is lifetime, as all inclusive for damage as can be, NO BS or run around's, and it's very important that the company will be in business for years to come. I say that because I have three paperweight scopes sitting in my junk cabinet right now as a reminder. Me - Steve throw them in the trash today you goofball, lol!!!
There's a saying - buy once cry once, meaning it's a good idea to hedge your bets on the highest quality you can afford. This usually comes with better "everything" which translates to higher customer satisfaction.
Also there's a thing called good "tracking". That's when the value of the turrets clicks match the values in the reticle nearly exactly over the entire travel of the scope.
If you'll be shooting on lower magnification then most FFP's aren't the best choice because the reticles become hard to see but there are exceptions.
SFP tends to be a better compromise in this regard.
Basically FFP is more convenient for dynamic shooting scenarios and SFP for less dynamic - like shooting BR as one example of less dynamic and one can use the rings for holdoffs so the true MOA value isn't needed as much, and not that there aren't crossovers in usage in both directions for different purposes.
Also keep in mind what a scope weighs and how long it is. BIG scope on small rig = not great. Small scope on BIG rig also not great.
Keep researching and learning until you better understand all these aspects a little more.
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Or don't spend several hundreds of dollars on a scope for a pellet gun and then you don't have to worry about lifetime warranty. One that lets you hit what you are aiming at out to 50 or 100 yards is all you need. PCP rifle doesn't have enough kick to break down a good basic scope like a Spina or CVLife.
Unless you shoot competitive anything more is overkill.
Springers do require a more robust scope than PCP.
Unless you shoot competitive anything more is overkill.
Springers do require a more robust scope than PCP.
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