How are you liking your Vector scopes,how about Optisan Viper?

I got one on a rifle I had bought,it was pretty good ,then I picked up another 10x 50mm fixed,what a big heavy scope it is for a 10x fixed.Also got a 10x44mm Optisan Viper nice....I really do not know where they rank,I know I got great deals on them.
I like vectors, never tried an option.
Arken, Vector, and Vortex are my go to scopes
 
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Very successfully shot with OPTISAN Vipers in Hunter class Field Target for nearly 10 years !! Now this with the 3-12x44 & 4-16x50, there glass while not the sharpest, did Parallax range better than anything else found or tried used at 12x & 16x magnification.
The Optisan EVX series that came next after the Vipers were obsolete had clearer / sharper glass, but ranging was no where as good as the Vipers.
 
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I just bought a new Vector Veyron 6-24x44Ir SFP mil gid recticle..$167.00 on alliexpress.. I loved the recticle, the glass quality was good for the price.. It held up on my Airforce Condors..Not the same story with my .510 Texan 3-6 shots and it wrecked the scope..I got a new one under warranty but with the Veyron warranty i think you only get one replacement under your 5 year warranty.. So im kinda scared to use my new veron replacement scope...If it breaks i through them both in garbage and out $167.00.. I hope to be wrong but that the way i understand it... The chinese scopes are almost breaking instantly from the recoil of the .510 Texan.. Scopes that take the recoil are Nikon tactical and Sightmarkwraith Digital scope.. I tried a Monstrum Challenger on my .510 three shots scope ruined .. I just bought a Athlon talos used and it has better glass than the Vector Veyron.. The vectors not bad but the Athlon talos is better. I used to have good scopes Nightforce Benchrest and Sightron so i do know glass quality..
 
I just bought a new Vector Veyron 6-24x44Ir SFP mil gid recticle..$167.00 on alliexpress.. I loved the recticle, the glass quality was good for the price.. It held up on my Airforce Condors..Not the same story with my .510 Texan 3-6 shots and it wrecked the scope..I got a new one under warranty but with the Veyron warranty i think you only get one replacement under your 5 year warranty.. So im kinda scared to use my new veron replacement scope...If it breaks i through them both in garbage and out $167.00.. I hope to be wrong but that the way i understand it... The chinese scopes are almost breaking instantly from the recoil of the .510 Texan.. Scopes that take the recoil are Nikon tactical and Sightmarkwraith Digital scope.. I tried a Monstrum Challenger on my .510 three shots scope ruined .. I just bought a Athlon talos used and it has better glass than the Vector Veyron.. The vectors not bad but the Athlon talos is better. I used to have good scopes Nightforce Benchrest and Sightron so i do know glass quality..
Could it not be said your buying "Cheap' and getting what you pay for hoping / wishing for something more ?
 
Could it not be said your buying "Cheap' and getting what you pay for hoping / wishing for something more ?
3 to 6 shots and not able to hold Point of Aim from 2 different chinese scopes isnt great.. $165.00 isnt free. My used Sightmark Wraith has lasted over the use of 300 lbs of one once slugs shot through.. I also bought a super cheap Simmions Pro Traget 4-12x40 like under $50.00 refurbshied ebay...Its holding up...I dont know.. When i was young shooting Benchrest I wore out the tracking on all my Nightforce Benchrest scopes... I think the digital scopes are more reliable than there day scopes dollar for dollar... I never thought id say a camera is more reliable than a day scope optic.. But they are Im scared to touch scope turrets...I broken most scopes in time from actually using them.. I use a coldshot mil adjustable base and or adjustable scope rings to optically center..
 
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I've got three Vector scopes; love them. Quality builds and great glass. Can't say anything about the Optisans. but I can say I'm going to start selling my other scopes and go to Vector from now on. I get mine from the UK. even with shipping they are cheaper and I don't find the delays with not being in stock in the US
 
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My Vector Continental 5-30 isn't a great scope, especially IQ wise, and besides that the first one broke, but V replaced it with this one. After trying it again last week it's become a backup scope. Wasn't worth the money even on sale.

I payed less for a Meopta Otika 6 5-30 which has MUCH better IQ.

Athlon Helos G2's are the way to go.....
 
I'm curious to know, how, a pcp airgun with very very little recoil can find it in itself to break a vector optic?
I use a Vector and the glass in this thing is spectacular. I have had zero issues. Obviously , that does not mean that someone else, hasn't.
All of these scopes are made the same way. They all have an erector tube, they all use springs, sub tensions, glass elements, Oculars and objectives.
I can look through my IOR Recon ( Made in Romania who has been known to return shipments of glass because it did not meet standards) ( Look up where they get their glass) Or My Leupold 6.5-20x40 which is Very good , and see very little difference at all between the three as IQ goes. I can assure you that a Meopta scope is in no way better in image quality than a Romanian made IOR Recon. I would bet money on it. I have been behind Schmidt Bender, Nightforce, and quite a few other very expensive scopes such as March. The Vector glass ( at least my copy) is up there. It's very close. Of the big three names, IOR, Schmidt Bender and nightforce, I chose the IOR based on what My eye saw. Not to say it's a better scope than the other two, because all three are real good. I just liked the contrasty color rendition, which was very close to my Leupold.
So I'd like to know how you break a Vector Scope with a very lightly recoiling PCP gun? Anyone?
While judging Image quality- can anyone tell me what ,"image quality" really is? Anyone?
 
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I am a glass and audiophile freak,I tell you both are the same thing,the word is called "nuances".Being able to hear and see the subtle difference that only the better equiment is able to produce.
Thus "image quality" is like being able to pick out a leaf from a bunch of leaves,seeing the eyes and not just the head from a long distance.
Truthfully not that many people really care,seeing something bigger or better is good enough.
In a way it is like target shooting,or looking at the Moon,a cheap scope will make things bigger,that is not enough for me, I want to see the ridges or valleys on the Moon,so 20x cheap and 20x quality ,big difference in image quality.
I think of image quality as an investment, from camera lenses to binoculars to rifle scopes.
You have to pay more for it.
So then lets just say you do not need the best quality rifle scope,but want the best you can afford.You do your research and get recommendations,you may find that some brands overall have many satisified users. OK I stop....morning coffee.
 
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So far so good with the Vector Veyron 3-12x44.
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I'm curious to know, how, a pcp airgun with very very little recoil can find it in itself to break a vector optic?
I use a Vector and the glass in this thing is spectacular. I have had zero issues. Obviously , that does not mean that someone else, hasn't.
All of these scopes are made the same way. They all have an erector tube, they all use springs, sub tensions, glass elements, Oculars and objectives.
I can look through my IOR Recon ( Made in Romania who has been known to return shipments of glass because it did not meet standards) ( Look up where they get their glass) Or My Leupold 6.5-20x40 which is Very good , and see very little difference at all between the three as IQ goes. I can assure you that a Meopta scope is in no way better in image quality than a Romanian made IOR Recon. I would bet money on it. I have been behind Schmidt Bender, Nightforce, and quite a few other very expensive scopes such as March. The Vector glass ( at least my copy) is up there. It's very close. Of the big three names, IOR, Schmidt Bender and nightforce, I chose the IOR based on what My eye saw. Not to say it's a better scope than the other two, because all three are real good. I just liked the contrasty color rendition, which was very close to my Leupold.
So I'd like to know how you break a Vector Scope with a very lightly recoiling PCP gun? Anyone?
While judging Image quality- can anyone tell me what ,"image quality" really is? Anyone?
One doesn't normally break a scope by using it as intended, unless it's been damaged somehow, so for whatever reason thing/s inside the scope weren't made correctly. Let's just say that every man made thing can have problems for many reasons. Is this reasonable to conclude, I mean we all know this happens, right?!

Speaking of the lauded IOR, my old FFP Valdada FFP 6-24x56 broke in the middle of a long range match to the point of missing most of the rest of the steel! They replaced it and I sold it NIB. This scope was kind of a 1st gen of a 'edit' a new line' back then around 15 years ago.
But before that my friend had two IOR 9-36's, the first broke and the 2nd didn't track correctly.

Yes quite literally my Optika 6 is nearly as nice as my S&B PM2 5-25 and my March Genesis "in IQ". Maybe I got a good one, who knows?!

Possibly it's the case that Vector bought better glass for their latest Gen scopes. My 1st gen I bought 3 years ago, the 2nd gen I got 1.5 years ago.

My first Continental had intermittent shifts that were hard to detect at first, then after another year my hit ratios in FT faltered by 1-3 misses per match and my daughter who is an amazing shot experienced the same thing using my gun/scope combo, the gun which is BTW a Thomas. I got a Athlon ETR 15-60x50, mounted it, and ever since then my scores came back to what they were before.

And March, I've had problems with them too but not mechanically, just IQ oddities. This was present on three of them.

I didn't buy the Continental to bad mouth it because I like the reticle and lighter weight for the mag range. However I was able to compare it to my other scopes, not expecting what I got out of this experience - and here we are.....

YMMV
 
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I'm curious to know, how, a pcp airgun with very very little recoil can find it in itself to break a vector optic?
I use a Vector and the glass in this thing is spectacular. I have had zero issues. Obviously , that does not mean that someone else, hasn't.
All of these scopes are made the same way. They all have an erector tube, they all use springs, sub tensions, glass elements, Oculars and objectives.
I can look through my IOR Recon ( Made in Romania who has been known to return shipments of glass because it did not meet standards) ( Look up where they get their glass) Or My Leupold 6.5-20x40 which is Very good , and see very little difference at all between the three as IQ goes. I can assure you that a Meopta scope is in no way better in image quality than a Romanian made IOR Recon. I would bet money on it. I have been behind Schmidt Bender, Nightforce, and quite a few other very expensive scopes such as March. The Vector glass ( at least my copy) is up there. It's very close. Of the big three names, IOR, Schmidt Bender and nightforce, I chose the IOR based on what My eye saw. Not to say it's a better scope than the other two, because all three are real good. I just liked the contrasty color rendition, which was very close to my Leupold.
So I'd like to know how you break a Vector Scope with a very lightly recoiling PCP gun? Anyone?
While judging Image quality- can anyone tell me what ,"image quality" really is? Anyone?
My Airforce Texan .510 TX2 valve 820-840 fps with 450 grain slug..3-6 shots...Absoultley broke will not hold Point of Aim..Vector Veyron 6-24x44 SFP... It also did the same thing to a new Monstrum Challanger scope... I had on a coldshot mil adjustable base .. Im not cranking on turrets... My Texan has double recoil like a springer.. A Nikon Tactical scope 3-9x40 worked fine and held up on .510 as well as Sightmark Wraith....