Airguns and preppers. The problems with airguns.

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A virus a little worse than covid, cut off diesel supply, currency collapse, electric unavailable, this may get interesting.
Covid didn’t quite get the ball rolling… but the mind virus might, or not…🙈

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Wacky, Oblivious, Kooky, Erroneus… a total embodiment of ignorant arrogance… a virus resistant to logic and sanity.
 
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Covid didn’t quite get the ball rolling… but the mind virus might, or not…🙈

WOKE

Wacky, Oblivious, Kooky, Erroneus… a total embodiment of ignorant arrogance… a virus resistant to logic and sanity.
🙈🙉🙊 On the plus side if SHTF does happen gen z will be out protesting it, so I'll just go take all there crap while there out doing what ever the hell it is they do......
 
This or This. With swords, you want 1080 steel or higher, and a blade thickness tapper from the base to the front - which e.g. this specific cutlass doesn't have because it is laser cut from sheet metal and sharpened on a grinder.. but it is still fairly well designed.
Having said this - any polearm is better than a sword, as it has longer reach - e.g. any knife duck taped to a long stick. Also, swords can be dangerous to inexperienced users, e.g. when a swing hits the other arm/hand or a leg.

O-rings surely can be stocked - Viton has no shelf life, besides, you can make o-rings from oiled-up leather (if you can cut good circles). Air guns are almost as old as firearms and they have always used leather seals- best example being the Girardoni rifle. Slugs can be cast indefinitely from car battery lead (which is not going to disappear in any scenario).
Also, air rifles can be multi-shot and bows and crossbows are single-shot, and composite materials, which is what the limbs are always made of, will eventually crack and break.
 
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LOL ! No rubber in the sling shot I was referring to haha. I should have included a pic as I do not communicate smoothly when typing Sorry about that !
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I'm pretty sure I can't hit anything with those..

IF there is ever a SHTF scenario when you are fighting for your life and you are relying on a air rifle, let alone those underpowered in most of Europe, and you think that those coming for you are only going to come bare handed or with a air rifle , to impose THEIR will on you.....you better wake up out of that dream. It has never went down like that before and won't . THAT'S why you have been disarmed.

I didn't tell anything about self defense with an airgun, even if they can be potentially lethal, they usually lack stopping power.

If you have to defend yourself, you will use the precious and scarce firearm ammo, better that, a black powder revolver may be even more usefull than a regular firearm on the mid/long term, you can make powder (black one at least, and you have also to give em grain), but the primers... forget about destiling mercury fulminate, you will have to rely on popgun toy primers (they degrade pretty quick) and matches, all that if you got acces to supplies, wich you won't, so... any firearm ammo will be like precious gold.

In Europe we have limited power airguns, but we are no stupid (at least some not) and everyone knows its easy to remove those power limits on our airguns, we just don't tell because if our evil governments take notice, they will also ban airguns in no time.

About self defense with an airgun... meh... I supose that they are better than nothing despise they don't have stopping power and its pretty inefficient shooting just on the center mass in a defensive, no time to aim, scared as sh** situation with something that the agressors may not even notice on the moment, even if they die from infections days later. A few years ago, a car rage incident in my country ended up in an idiot taking an airgun out of his car and shooting the other idiot on the abdomen (they just say high power air rifle, not the specific power, but that would be around 15 fpe asuming the rifle is legal). He did not kill him, but leave the other wounded and disabled on the ground, can the other guy just ran off or attack if he snap out of the shock? maybe... who knows.
 
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LOL ! No rubber in the sling shot I was referring to haha. I should have included a pic as I do not communicate smoothly when typing Sorry about that !
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A 0.3kg stone thrown by hand at 80km/h has 50 fpe, which is more than most airguns already.
Professional pitchers can acheive 400 fpe, which is 9mm gun level of energy.
You don't even need a shepherd's sling, to beat a springer, and with some training you could probably be as good as a .22LR pistol, at short ranges (80 fpe).
 
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In a true SHTF scenario what are you going to hunt, insects and berries? There isn't enough wild-life left to sustain 8 billion people worldwide, or 331~ million locally within the US.

Wild-life would very likely quickly diminish as we would probably hunt them to extinction within a few weeks if the food supply chain broke / no longer becomes sustainable.

Far better off learning how to garden/homesteading than stocking up on ammo and airguns lol. Even that is questionable, as you would likely just get raided to oblivion, day and night.

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In a true SHTF scenario what are you going to hunt, insects and berries? There isn't enough wild-life left to sustain 8 billion people worldwide, or 331~ million locally within the US.

Wild-life would very likely quickly diminish as we would probably hunt them to extinction within a few weeks if the food supply chain broke / no longer becomes sustainable.

Far better off learning how to garden/homesteading than stocking up on ammo and airguns lol. Even that is questionable, as you would likely just get raided to oblivion, day and night.

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Yes but what percentage of those people have the skills necessary to hunt or procure any food sources that does not come from a store or drive thru window? I guarantee most of the population would die off from starvation, disease and killing each other for food long before the animal population decreases. Living of the land is a lost art I'm pretty sure the animals would flourish during such times.
 
I think airguns would be extremely useful items. They're something that will allow you to hunt small and medium sized game and dispatch pests effectively and quietly and in either .177 or .22 you can stockpile several thousand pellets without spending a crazy amount of money. Get 5000 or more and you're realistically looking at a lifetime supply, considering you would be only using them as needed.

I wouldn't envision ever using them defensively though.
an HW30 could easily blind an intruder , two pellets .
 
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