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I own a Daystate Red Wolf Safari and I think it is a minor problem that doesn't require such a fuss...Just shoot your gun and enjoy it's beauty man..I have used FX which are good but Daystate overall quality can't be matched by any other maker on the market.


You don't think that metal to metal contact deserves such a fuss, but do bear in mind the issue does vary from gun to gun. My Renegade was very bad, while my Pulsar was minor by comparison so I didn't bother altering its magazine and it still shot fine. But recently when I was shooting the Pulsar at the dairy, the end of the index lever broke off and jammed in the magazine. Obviously it was weakened from repeatedly striking the pellet probe. The magazine still works after disassembling and removing the broken piece. Now it's the same as if I had used a Dremel tool to repair like I did on my Renegade. 

I hear the Daystate quality remark often, but frankly I don't see it. I've had multiple problems with both of mine including parts falling off and the factory forgetting to use Lock-Tite where it's required. Also multiple broken actuator pins, though after altering the magazines that issue too may have been corrected. Only time will tell for certain.

While Daystate still claims that it was never an issue at all, one has question why they did a complete redesign of the magazine? To get something that doesn't damage their gun, requires that the customer spend more money, and for the extra $100 they lose the shot count and anti-double load features that they paid to get in the first place. Obviously the word quality, is most accurately defined through personal experience.

Enough said, happy shooting everyone.
 
I own a Daystate Red Wolf Safari and I think it is a minor problem that doesn't require such a fuss...Just shoot your gun and enjoy it's beauty man..I have used FX which are good but Daystate overall quality can't be matched by any other maker on the market.


You don't think that metal to metal contact deserves such a fuss, but do bear in mind the issue does vary from gun to gun. My Renegade was very bad, while my Pulsar was minor by comparison so I didn't bother altering its magazine and it still shot fine. But recently when I was shooting the Pulsar at the dairy, the end of the index lever broke off and jammed in the magazine. Obviously it was weakened from repeatedly striking the pellet probe. The magazine still works after disassembling and removing the broken piece. Now it's the same as if I had used a Dremel tool to repair like I did on my Renegade. 

I hear the Daystate quality remark often, but frankly I don't see it. I've had multiple problems with both of mine including parts falling off and the factory forgetting to use Lock-Tite where it's required. Also multiple broken actuator pins, though after altering the magazines that issue too may have been corrected. Only time will tell for certain.

While Daystate still claims that it was never an issue at all, one has question why they did a complete redesign of the magazine? To get something that doesn't damage their gun, requires that the customer spend more money, and for the extra $100 they lose the shot count and anti-double load features that they paid to get in the first place. Obviously the word quality, is most accurately defined through personal experience.

Enough said, happy shooting everyone.

I only have 1 Daystate but it has been trouble free.
 
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Of course, its nothing like the new FX M3 with the hole drilled too far, allowing the air pressure leaks from the breech, directly from the factory on new guns...? And then FX telling owners to "just epoxy the hole so it doesn't leak anymore". Yeah, no factory is exempt it would seem...

The problem with this comparision is it was A) Acknowledged by the company and instantly changed starting as soon as they know. Their fix the glue sucked, very true but again it was for the not so many that went out. Not meant as thats what they're doing from now on. B) A brand new model. C) Wasn't happening for 2 plus years across different models with the companies fingers in their ears saying nah nah nah nah. And FX took plenty 'O poop for that.

If a problem is brushed aside by the company and told "hey its just cosmetic" and the problem has happened from the Pulsar/Renegade to the Safari that's much different than a brand new model. Same with the broken Rosso stocks, no acknowlegement just denial that there's a problem.

The point is all manufacturers have problems, how they deal with it says a lot.

I also find it funny how buddy shares his experience at the top and instantly gets questioned like he did something wrong and he better explain himself QUICK.

iTs OnLy CoSmEtIc


 
Ive got a RW .177 normal power and love it. Have almost 30,000 shots through it! Accurate, stealthy, elegant lever and trigger. I have that indentation on the probe. I think it has to do with the index probe banging up onto the magazine and that pin hits the pawl in the magazine makes that mark. I invested into the older style magazines and some extra index pins so will not change over to the newer magazines. I believe that the index pin/magazine mechanism can effect accuracy. There could be 3 impacts (pin probe slamming up on top of breech, pin hitting pawl, pawl hitting probe) with the same blast of air that propels the pellet. If it happens before the pellet leaves the barrel, it COULD effect accuracy. I filed down the sharp part of the pawl with a dremel tool, just to take the sharp corner off. Be careful if you file off too much the magazine wont anymore. Do so at your own risk. The notch in the probe has not gotten worse since I've done this but also, I could have just carved out enough metal so it doesnt hit anymore.

I now shoot a the lowest power as it suits my needs at my home range and after I filed down the pawl I'm getting supreme accuracy. Some magazines were capable of that same accuracy prior to the filing so I have no direct proof that is the culprit.

In my opinion, this is why the index pin/anti double load system/magazine change was done. Great for the evolution of Daystate rifles but I do like the anti double load.
 
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That kind of so called cosmetic issue is not acceptable for such high cost guns.

Otherwise one can get Chinese gun, install LW barrel and Huma reg and one is done at very low cost.

When one pays that much premium price it is not only for accuracy but also for esthetics. 

If its all substance over form than why daystate makes their guns so beautiful?

Why such a gorgeous stock on Safari ?

Enough said ? !!!

Bhaur
 
So its a cosmetic thing and doesn't affect performance? Just trying to see what the issue is, other than a small nick in the pellet probe, which I admit isn't good from a "looks" point of view. The newer Daystates with the new style magazine don't have this issue... And the older mags like yours can be "fixed" with a dremel and five minutes time... Just grind that sharp "hook" piece in your photo so its more rounded. Not too much, or the mag won't work properly. Grind a bit, check, grind a bit more, check, etc.

The point being I believe is that when you drop a fair amount of money on a rifle you would expect the rifle to have zero issues be it mechanically or cosmetically or is this silly English man wrong.
 
Lmao this guy is a trip, he messaged me on fb begging for my settings on my alpha, messaged me here, seems he has too much money.
Bought the most expensive daystate up until the Alpha even after he made this thread.

See thread below