12 pounds 12.7 ounces lol, unless you're planning on using a bipod or rest forgettaboutit. 
unless you're strong as %$@#.
unless you're strong as %$@#.If you've ever wondered what a rattler with a pulsar thermion weighs in at...
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I was hoping to use the rattler for spot and stalk type hunting, but the weight is crazy. I'm thinking maybe a QD mount so I can keep it in a pack then mount it in a hurry if I need it
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How do you like that vector? I was looking at their scopes for my other texan and that's the magnification I was looking at.Pump action Hatsan at-44 Long weighs in at 11.8lbs with a vector veyron 3-12x44
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You may want to bring a stroller with you instead lol.
The vector is a really nice scope, I actually had it off of an ac unit nearly 5 feet off the ground, the scope was bent near the objective lens and it worked as if nothing happened. The only drawback I would say it may have is more preference based and that's that the reticle is very thin. At 3x mag you can barely see the reticle. But it's very clear, and compact.
The vector is a really nice scope, I actually had it off of an ac unit nearly 5 feet off the ground, the scope was bent near the objective lens and it worked as if nothing happened. The only drawback I would say it may have is more preference based and that's that the reticle is very thin. At 3x mag you can barely see the reticle. But it's very clear, and compact.
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One thing some people don't consider is that positioning of weight plays a big role. Forward weight will be a bigger struggle than rearward weight. The most extended arm used to stabilize the barrel will have less work to do if a gun is rear heavy vs front heavy
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I want to say this gun is around or over 9.5lbs as seen, but due to the barrel weighing next to nothing, it handles more like a 7 or 8lb gun.
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Yes! I tried putting the thermion on my seneca repeater .25... lol. It was so far forward I couldn't hold the gun up more than a couple minutes before my left arm was ready to give out.
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@elittle1234 This thread is on point! I’m currently working with my setup and I intend to do some tripod work. I’ll try spot-and-stalk with a bipod since I put a sling on my Rattler, but I expect to get tired of carrying it relatively quickly.
How have you hunted with your Rattler set up like this so far? Have you used the ballistic calculator and app yet?
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I think that one of the biggest factors really comes into play with bullpups, and it's something that has largely been overlooked. Once rifles start to become very tall in terms of the distance from the base of the pistol grip to the top of the optics, they begin to have unusual handling. We're used to thinking of the balance point of a rifle in terms of front to rear balance, but when you have a rifle that's a foot tall and has a heavy scope, you have to start thinking about it's vertical balance point as well. IMO, this vertical balance point is what makes bullpups feel awkward more than the front to rear balance.
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I haven't hunted with it. I lost my access to the property I was shooting on a while back. Since then I haven't found a new place to go, and shooting ranges I can't deal with.
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Isn't that about like a M1 Garand and I thought that was heavy?12 pounds 12.7 ounces lol, unless you're planning on using a bipod or rest forgettaboutit.
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Yes, the stack height with scope of some of the bull pups looks like the “super structure“ on a aircraft carrier…
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I’ll tell y’all like this. After two hours of moving around with this set up, my lower back hurts.
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Lol, yes! The tripod is the only way though. No way you're holding that gun up for long periods unless you are like Arnold the terminator from the 1990s.
It is a really slick setup though! You need a polaris with a rifle mount so you can drive, stop, shoot, then refill with air all from your seat.
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What do you think of the LRF? I think it's really accurate for what i do, mostly shooting rats with it on a p-rod at the moment.
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