Zero Compromise Scopes

[Barnamwam]

You quoted. "The flip cap on the ocular end rotates right along with the magnification collar". Thats my point and scratched them off my list. I don't need the flip cap rotating in my way every time I adjust the magnification. Not to pee in your cornflakes, but that's a stupid design.

That is a complete non issue, for me.

One thing that is an issue is the corn fed, plus size, built like a tank mass weight of these scopes. If you ever need a scope that can drive a nail, this series might be it. The weight is nice on a heavy recoiling rifle, other than that it's a problem.

Mike

 

[jwrabbit123]

I have the 4x20 I got mine when they were just starting out like 3 yrs ago , I love good glass and am used to tier 1 scopes such as Schmidt bender , tangent theta , older uso and valdata and the glass is great , the repeatability is 100% turrets 100% never had an issue with mine and I would buy another if I needed oe LOU

 

[jwrabbit123]

I have the 4x20 I got mine when they were just starting out like 3 yrs ago , I love good glass and am used to tier 1 scopes such as Schmidt bender , tangent theta , older uso and valdata and the glass is great , the repeatability is 100% turrets 100% never had an issue with mine and I would buy another if I needed oe LOU

I would like to add 1 thing , I mounted scope to a solid bench and put a 100 yards and put a tall target from Snipers Hide , and I ran scope up and down 10 mils and then back to zero , I also went 10 mils left and right not off anything not even .1mil when it is L or R 10 mils , I then put at a tall rex target at 100M and did full range of sccope which is 25 mils elevation and a total of 10 mils left and right being 20 mils I dialed like full ranges and scope always returned to zero ,, I use it on pcp but when I shot my Rugar precision 6.5 creedmoor I shot out to 1400 yards with a firing solution and scope is spot on , great glass , I one day was hitting steal 1000 yd and was swapping from this to my Pm2 5x25 and my PM2 5x45 and it keeps up , and at 20x it accually has clear image then my Atacr and My 5x45 , schmidt bender , Only glass I likes a bit better was my tangent I sold , This is a great scope for dialing long range and knowing it is spot on , but while I use it and other tier ones for hunting they not real practible meaning they add alot of weight to guns and to carry long distances it gets heavy I am older and weight is a factor now for me but great glass they came out with a 10x I may sell a few optics and try that one I had a new razor3 1x10 and I did not like it nor did I like the primary arms looking for a good 1x10

 

[cavedweller]

They are indeed tier 1 scopes. A collaboration between some Austrian and US people with I believe Austrian made Lenses. They are supposed to be as good as or better than Nightforce. Talked to the ZC people in Nebraska? Their.ZC 840 will go down to 10 YD Parralax, Which is needed for Field Target. I believe their scopes are all FFP but the reticles are available MILorMOA

 

[Barnamwam]

I wouldn't even consider NF top tier Atacr due to the rotating ocular every time you adjust the magnification. I wonder what genius thought that would be a good idea. I use caps so that's a big no go.

As I said just above, that is your opinion. My personal, lived daily experience, based on actually owning an ATACR 5x25 and an ATACR 7x35 is that this pathologizing of rotating ocular stuff is complete misinformation. You are conflating a mechanical reality with a design defect. Mechanical Munchausen syndrome. This is a non issue, in my opinion. Non issue.

 

[JoeWillie]

I would like to add 1 thing , I mounted scope to a solid bench and put a 100 yards and put a tall target from Snipers Hide , and I ran scope up and down 10 mils and then back to zero , I also went 10 mils left and right not off anything not even .1mil when it is L or R 10 mils , I then put at a tall rex target at 100M and did full range of sccope which is 25 mils elevation and a total of 10 mils left and right being 20 mils I dialed like full ranges and scope always returned to zero ,, I use it on pcp but when I shot my Rugar precision 6.5 creedmoor I shot out to 1400 yards with a firing solution and scope is spot on , great glass , I one day was hitting steal 1000 yd and was swapping from this to my Pm2 5x25 and my PM2 5x45 and it keeps up , and at 20x it accually has clear image then my Atacr and My 5x45 , schmidt bender , Only glass I likes a bit better was my tangent I sold , This is a great scope for dialing long range and knowing it is spot on , but while I use it and other tier ones for hunting they not real practible meaning they add alot of weight to guns and to carry long distances it gets heavy I am older and weight is a factor now for me but great glass they came out with a 10x I may sell a few optics and try that one I had a new razor3 1x10 and I did not like it nor did I like the primary arms looking for a good 1x10

JW,
Thanks for the reply and your experiences with the ZC scope. Since I’m considering it for Hunter FT the weight is a non issue except for the forced lanes which I do poorly at with the lightest of rigs ! A big ask of you is how does it repeat (at 15X as I don’t believe it has a 16X mark on the scope)? The repeatability of the parralax wheel is the only way we have to judge distance in this game. So for instance 10,20,30,40,50,55. The best scope in the world is of little value if you can’t accurately repeat distances. Again thanks for your input.

Joe

 

[JoeWillie]

As I said just above, that is your opinion. My personal, lived daily experience, based on actually owning an ATACR 5x25 and an ATACR 7x35 is that this pathologizing of rotating ocular stuff is complete misinformation. You are conflating a mechanical reality with a design defect. Mechanical Munchausen syndrome. This is a non issue, in my opinion. Non issue.

I’ve only had the pleasure of looking through an NF ATACR one time but Oh My what a fine piece of glass it was. Thank you for your input.

Joe

 

[JoeWillie]

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Dat’s the one I’d like to test out. Thanks,

Joe