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Texan 457 Gotta Buck Graphic

I had this rifle for several years and finally this morning it got it's buck, I've been hunting public land that was over hunted last year opening day I heard maybe 6 shots but a lady at my church has some land an gave me permission to hunt on it, opening morning Saturday the 16th I saw 4 does and this buck but did get a shot didn't hunt Sunday. Went yesterday morning I was in the stand for 5 hours never saw anything, got in the stand a little after 6am today a hour and a half I looked over my right shoulder a saw this fellow coming up behind me with his nose to the ground, when he got even with me he looked up and then walked a few feet stopped looked up again didn't like what he saw and bolted I'm thinking dang but he stopped again in about 15 yards just 25 yards in front of my with a quarter align perfect shot align I put one of my 280gr Noe HP slugs in him, he ran about 50 yards an laid down for his last Dirt Nap. That 280gr made a mess of his lungs after going through a rib exited through a rib offside through the shoulder and found the slug under the hide, what a Great hunt for me and the Texan. He was between the small tree and the larger one on the right looking straight over my rifle.
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FX  What is a new Crown MK2 22/500 factory settings

My new crown 22/500 is scheduled to arrive late next week. I intend to follow what I see recommended on this site by shooting it at least 4 or 500 rounds at the factory settings to break it in before tuning it to it;'s pellet choice. My first question is... can someone who has one tell me what the factory setting will be on it when I receive it? Can you also tell me at those setting what fps it will likely shoot a 18.1 pellet? I have other guns so will be deciating this gun to shooting at 50 to 65 yards, seldon ever more. Could someone who owns one share with me your setting for this range shooting of this gun. Thank You.

Centerfire v. Air…

My second string as a n00b and wanted to air something out to make sure I’m not crazy.

I got into air rifles on a whim after realizing my daughter liked shooting and is a good shot. I only have one NFA can in 22LR because it took 354 days to receive it, and that turned me off from getting more (although approvals are much, much faster as of late). After seeing that I could get multiple cans (moderators) without any NFA BS to shoot in my backyard, I looked further into it.

Then, when I bought my first air rifle (Bulldog M357 because I have lead/molds as a reloader) with a DonnyFL can and saw how awesome today’s PCP weapons are, I got hooked.

I also have many conventional pistols and rifles but don’t shoot them because I never have time to drive to a range. So, I’m selling most of my collection of regular arms save for some standards in the principal calibers, and going all-in on air rifles. I just really like the idea of shooting all the way up to a 50 CAL and doing so inexpensively in my backyard, with family if they so choose!

Did anyone else make that choice to switch from mostly centerfire to mostly air, and if yes, why?

Am I missing something?

Same gun, one is new, and one is used. Yet the used gun is more expensive..why though? Am I missing something?



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Taipan  I got my thermal with night vision yesterday!

I got my DNT TNC225R ThermNight yesterday! I zeroed it last night in complete darkness. Ever since I got into airguns 5 years ago, I've always wanted the ability to shoot at night. I didn't get into it until now because I wanted it all on one unit; thermal, night vision, laser rangefinder with ballistics. This is the first unit I came across with that had everything that I was looking and doesn't cost $5,000+++

Yes, the 256 thermal sensor can be better, but honestly, for what I'm using it for, it's more than good enough. I see a heat signature blob and focus in on it with the visuals to identify and take the shot.

I didn't shoot the chipmunk in the photo below, but at 35 meters away, the animal was very obvious in the thermal. I wouldn't have otherwise saw this chipmunk if not for the thermal. As I was watching the chipmunk frolic around, there were multiple instances where thermal was picking up the heat signature through the brush even though I don't have visuals at all. Without thermal, I could have stared at that spot for 10 minutes and not see the animal at all.

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Umarex  benjimin gunner vs umarex zelos

Hi Everyone

New user to here , Just got an email for air gun depot

Benjimin gunner vs umarex zelos Which one to choose if Bejimin Gunner MSRP 999.99 Onsale for $499.99 and is $100 lower than Umarex Zelos 599.99 MSRP


Under research Bejimin Gunner is 2022 model and Umarex Zelos is 2024 newer model/

Benjimin Gunner has AR 1 5 adjustable stock

Umarex Zelos is a Bull Pup Non Adjustable stock

Whats other pros and cons


Thanks

PCP Rifle  NLA WTT Custom .22 Kalibr Cricket Tactical 60

Hey All,

Bought this a week or so ago thinking I was going to be mister slug shooter and while this gun is PHENOMENAL at that, for my uses pellets just fit the bill better….

This is a custom .22 Kalibr Cricket 60 (long). This was donated for an EBR prize a couple years back.

Has a custom 700mm (stock are 600) 17.7 twist, 12 groove, no choke barrel.

Currently at a reg setting of right at 120 (ish) bar I am shooting the Daystate Howlers at 965, accuracy and consistency is amazing and with a 300 bar fill the shot count is through the roof. Can easily tune for heavier slugs. Shoots the Monster Redesigns, JTS 22.07 and 18.13 just as accurate simply by adjusting the hammer spring adjuster.

Has a custom paint job and wood grips as well.

Comes with 2 magazines, fill probe

Scope, rings, bipod, moderator not included

Pic below shows TWO 7 shot groups at 33 yards with the Howlers as well as a quick string showing the consistency (did not adjust the weight for the Howlers so the FPE does not show correctly).

Nothing really in mind trade wise so just let me know what you have to offer and we can go from there!

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what causes this to pellets/slugs? casting?

was washing some pellets today i use a commercial jewelry cleaner.
was kind of surprised to see this on slugs
i have seen it on some pellets chp/ jsb not so bad and not any in the 2 tins of Jts pellets?
the worst was my favorite slugs well group the best so far, the fx hybrid 26g
none of the Zan slugs did this?
Neilson's out of a box only had a few 5 not bad the one box of the fx hybrids 28 out of 100.
is this corrosion or casting now i see where possibly the fliers come from possibly? or dirty the barrel?

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Squirrels and Tractor Supply fault

I have posted the start of my pellet gun story already but this is to address my impression of my first air gun experience. We have plenty of gun stores in my Albany NY area but try to find an air gun. Online a hour or two before finding Tractor Supply had 2 different Umarex’s.
Knowing nothing about them figured they would be cheap junky toy. Bought the 2 different pellet tins they had and home to unbox.
The rifle came with a scope which I assumed was unusable. Was pretty impressed sure didn’t look or feel like a toy. The rifle is a Synergis
Elite 22. I thought I loaded the mag right but ended up dry firing,, holy poop this is a loud as a standard velocity 22lr ,, spark flying ( dieseling
I guess) hummm sort of defeats the purpose. Might as well use Anguilla sss subsonic 22lr to not alert the neighbors. Anyway went to cellar to
sight in. Much quieter with ammo in it… haa!
This very inexpensive gun is really all I would ever need if I was only using it as a pest deterrent. I changed the included scope for a cheap,
junk but slightly better Meuller 4x14 I had. At 40 feet it puts selected pellets in one ragged hole. I know that doesn’t impress and to put it in
perspective for myself I shot my Sako Quad with Lilja barrel set up for silhouette and sporter bench rest. This shot a 22 caliber round hole.

Well that started it. That was the 3rd of November. So in 17 days I have accumulated 1 Umarex rifle, 1 Reximex rpa pistol, hand pump,
my first red dot sight, buck rail suppressor, bullet trap, $200 cheap Amazon compressor and a dozen various pellet tins.
A pcp rifle and new scope on the way.
Plus signing up to this forum
Mike

Shot shed update

Well we finally got to Sub zero ( C ) temperatures here, the shed heat sources did well but really we need to have smaller openings to shoot out of on these really cold days.
Also insulation would not hurt, so come spring / summer i think i will have to put some of that on the roof at least.

Mind you Tuesday evening combined with 2 heat sources going and -2 deg C outside, inside we had a nice temperature of 20 - 24 deg C, but we can not maintain that with 2 lanes going even if just 50% opened, so something to easy narrow that opening will have to be worked out, so far i have just propped up stuff ( see video )

Never the less, this new shed is leagues better than the old setup, so i am still pegging this as a big WIN.

A little video from today, dialing rifle back to speeds handling the 10.4gr JTS pellets.


Last night 2 critters fell victim to me, first one of the small ones, and then a little later sitting talking after dinner i saw big fat one on CCTV, so i excused myself and went into sniper mode in the shed.
And 5 minutes later i got my #2 kill of the night.

PCP Rifle  WTS FX Panthera 22cal (700 barrel)

Hello up for sale is the FX Panthera 22 Cal 700 barrel comes with one factory magazine and two charm aftermarket magazines. Aftermarket KL hand guard. Shoots great just too long for me.

Asking $1,800 includes shipping

The only thing broken or not working is the one latch on the hard case shown in the picture.

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Events  Ultimate Field Target match at Phoenix Rod and Gun Club on 11/23/24

Big news for UFT @ PRGC!

This month will be the first of Ben's new format.

He has been working hard and added a third target to each lane, and restructured to allow a broader range of airguns to be competitive.

It seems more complicated than it really is but I'll take a stab at making it clear....

Three targets, near, middle and far.
If you're under 20 foot pounds (think AAFTA) you can shoot the near and middle targets for some good practice.
If you're under 50 foot pounds you can shoot all three, for what Ben's calling "the full Monty," resulting in a 72 shot match. That's lots of shooting!
If you're 50-100 foot pounds, you can shoot the middle and far targets for a "long range/high power match."

No allowance for greater than 50fpe will be allowed for the full Monty. IE zero tolerance policy for fpe greater than 50fpe. This is for protecting the new/nearest targets.

So, rimfire and high powered slugs can still come shoot a 48 shot high power match. AAFTA guys can come practice. Guys with hunting rigs in that sweet spot of .22 and 30-35fpe can come shoot without needing a very expensive scope and all the paraphernalia that comes with AAFTA field target classes. Essentially, if you've got an airgun, come shoot a match, simple as that.

We're not sure how the chips are gonna fall with participation in each class but it'll be fun to find out. Also, we'll continue keeping the slug and pellet classes. As an example, you pellet shooters don't have to shoot against @steve123 and his 49fpe Altaros slugs that did so well last month.

Here's the kill zone sizes and distances and Troyer factors. Don't look if you're an AAfTA guy. 😁.
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Yep, there's some dang tough targets in that mix, but also some relatively easy ones. Those AAFTA illegal Troyers sound pretty "Ultimate" to me. And yes, that opens up a bunch of strategizing for the full monty....do you stick with small calibers to squeak em in the tiny kzs? Or do you go with a bigger caliber with a better BC for better hit rates on the long range shots? Choices choices.

In the past I've shot my best scores when using my personal rangefinder during the match. So if you figure your dope with a specific rangefinder I'd suggest bringing that to use during the match.

As always, sign up via Practiscore, linked here on the PRGC calendar, as well as some more of the particulars for the match.

We apologize for such short notice on the match announcement. Ben wasn't sure if he was going to get that third target in for this month so we were holding out on the announcement. He does much of the work himself and he's just one guy.

Altaros MOA Booster Periscopic device for Airgun ELR shooting 500-1500 yards

We would like to introduce our new product, which you could see in many videos from previous years and which allows us to aim and shoot accurately with airgun even above 1000 yards.
This device is the Altaros MOA Booster Periscopic device, that can be characterized by the following characteristics:

- Increase the maximum aiming distance several times by adding 0-120 mRad (412 MOA) to your riflescope elevation adj. range.
- The default setting of 30mRad, it will prolong the aiming range almost twice.
- The device can be easily mounted on any standard rifle scope with an outer diameter from 40 to 62mm (reducers are produced according to the required size).
- The add elevation change occurs immediately after the MOA Booster is inserted and there is no change in the point of impact when removed from the rifle scope.
- MOA Booster doesn't change the position of the rifle scope to the shooter so there is no need to change the cheekpiece position as is the case with adjustable mounts
- A spirit level is included for precise positioning on the riflescope to keep maximum accuracy.

More info on our website:

https://www.altaros.cz/domu/272-moa-booster-periscopic-device.html

Other  Akela vs. P35 vs. Bullboss

I have space and budget for a 'budget' bullpup.

Budget because it is my first bullpup, I want to first see if I like the concept, then I will possibly buy a higher end rifle.
We are also quite limited on choice over here in South Africa compared to Europe and the USA.
I am also not able to walk into a store to look and feel, I need to buy online.

I spent a lot of time reading forums, watching reviews, but am still not sure.

They are all similar in price, power and functionality - I am looking at .22.

Any personal experience of why one over the other, or rather why not one of these?
(My preference with the limited knowledge I have is Akela, then P35, then Bullboss).

Mini shooting tri pod question?

I am looking at getting a mini Arca tri pod to use with my epoch. Just curious if anyone has experience with one of the amazon ones such as this.


I know the Skout one is certainly solid as can be but it’s 150 bucks and these days often the amazon choices are pretty good on many things.

Daystate  Uhh ooo did I make a mistake? Regulated vs non

Just ordered a Daystate huntsman Monday. Thought it was a great deal because it was a 25 and I have read here that the 25s were low powered and less resale. The real reason for the low price was this was an unregulated model. This is just for cellar and open window to backyard gun.
However I don’t want to go backwards in technology. Think I gotta cancel and choose again.
Mike
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AEA Pellets and Speed versus JSB, etc.

Im curious now that these have been out if there is a consensus on good target speed. Traditional thinking from what i have seen is that pellets should be fired 880-890-900 speed(ish) This makes sense as past Mach 0.8 you run into stability and drag issues and with a projectile that is drag stabilized this makes sense..

Well now AEA came out with their pellets and they don't look fundamentally different. There are differences of course but they aren't like slug versus pellet difference. Now with these AEA pellets we'v seen remarkable accuracy at 1000FPS and I think there is even a video of 30 cal Challenger slinging them at 1100 FPS with close to MOA accuracy at 100yards.

So I guess my question to all you guys that are much smarter then me, whats changed. Were we wrong with the 890ish guidance or have AEA found som kind of secret source.. I know the pellets are a bit harder but not sure how that would explain being able to go faster.

Mike

PCP Pistol  WTS GK1 carbine for sale

Up for sale is my GK1 in .25 cal. It's the V1 model and serial number 68 from the first batch. It's a great gun but prefer traditional style rifles for hunting. Have had zero issues with it and it absolutely loves 34 grain JSBs and that's what I've shot most of out of it. Set at around 800 fps and gets a full mag at that power. I'll include everything in the pic except the scope it's self. I'll include the off set rings that work really well. PayPal F&F preferred but can also take Zelle through my bank. Asking $1250 shipped in the US only. Thanks for looking James from Michigan (Graphic pics below) Only possible trade would be for a DRS classic walnut .25 600mm.
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Diana  Opinion on Diana 460 Magnum?

Hello, first post on the traditional airguns forum. So I am getting into air rifles and have previous experience with the diana 34 I bought for my dad. I liked it quite a lot but was wondering about getting a 460 as I like the idea of higher power and fixed barrel. What are peoples opinions on it?
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Beeman  Getting my feet wet!

I’ve been looking at springers for several months. Been reading on this forum and researching a few dealer’s websites for reviews on springers that I favored. Finally settled on an R9 in .22 cal. I ordered a Hawke Airmax 4-16 Compact with Sports Match adjustable rings. As soon as I got it, I made several passes through the barrel with J-B honing paste then cleaned it well. Mounted the rings then ran a honing bar through them to make sure of a good seat. I struggled the first 100 rounds to get a decent pattern with Hades Diabolo 15.89’s. I’m about 200 into it now and after a few adjustments I think I’m finally onto a good pattern at 15 yds.(I started there because of a squirrel issue I have in my front yard just outside of a dormer window about the same distance) I also have H-N Terminator 16.36 that I have not tried yet. Starting to see the light and a smile every time I squeeze the trigger. Already have sights on an AA TX200 and a PS. As soon as the acorns dry up in the front yard, it will be raining squirrels!!🐿️

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