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HW/Weihrauch  HW77 .25

Lob is not the word for it. My HW77 .25 does just that. Put it through the crony. Hmmmm. Shooting a Hates.
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Time for a look. And this is what I find after I open it up.
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Amazing the accuracy with a broken spring. The piston seal looked fine but got a Vortek any way.
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Normally so far I’ve only installed Vortek springs. This time I‘m trying this.
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After a few quick shots I cronied it. I thought the crony was stuck on 505 fps. but no, consistently shooting them at this speed. A little buzz in the spring.
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I’m going to go give it a night shoot tonight. Crow

FX  M4 slug selection

So I've decided to make a dedicated slug gun, I went with the M4 .22 700mm with a stx superior heavy liner on order.
I'd like to keep the performance mods to a minimum and be efficient with the air as much as possible. I think be around 100- 150 yrd range would be great.
I'm thinking of trying nsa, h&n maybe griffin near the 27g weight might be a good start from older u2 vids.
I'm looking for some recommendations of slugs with positive results as of late to prevent me from buying a million slugs of various brands/weights.

N/A  Ghost or uragan 2 in .177

So I’ve got the itch for a new gun in .177 and I want the option to shoot slugs.
I‘m torn between the Uragan 2 with the 600 mm barrel, carbon stock or the standard barrel hp ghost.

Not a whole lot of info on either of these guns shooting slugs in .177

Anyone with experience with either in .177 and slugs?

Currently I have an original Uragan in .30 which loves slugs and pellets. I also have an impact m3 in .22 shooting 18 Grn pellets. Also a Hm1000x in .22.

Which gun out of the uragan and ghost would be the better .177 shooter?
Mostly used for pesting with some paper, steel punching as well.
Probably order from Krale.

Thoughts or comments?
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Hatsan  Newbie Fail

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My hunting buddy got a PCP (22cal Notos - or something like that), so of course I had to get one (25cal Hatsan Flash RQE).
First trip out I had magazine issues. To the point I had to discard one because it failed almost 95% of the time.
The one that kinda worked (70% of the time) had the internal spring slide out. I was handy enough to remove the spring from the non-functioning one and replace. But now, I can't get this magazine to work as it once did and has dropped to about 50% success rate.
It's now a good single feeder....
I did purchase 2 off market brands off Amazon. So we will see how this goes. What I like about my buddies Notos (or whatever) it has a magnet that tells the OP where the magazine is supposed to sit. Such a small thing. But the slop factor in Hatsan Mag is HORRIBLE!!!

I still don't think its shooting right. Advertised velocity (which I never believe is true, a gimmick, a comparable market standard at best) is 900 FPS but doesn't say what pellet weight they were using I am guessing the lightest ones.
Mine likes to shoot the 33.9grs. which are averaging 549-575FPS depending on what brand I am shooting.
31gr are getting 580FPS
26.5gr are getting 635FPS
I just had some 20gr show up. Deducing the numbers above, this pellet should get me in the 800FPS range.

So now I am shopping for another 25cal maybe 30cal. Probably 25cal since I have 6-7 tins of pellets to work through. I'm actually eyeballing the new JTS Airacuda but some are calling it entry level. I'm also eyeballing some Airforce Texans but really want something silenced (yes, I am going to use that word)!

Any non-entry level suggestions THAT DON'T HAVE SLOPPY MAGS would be appreciated. Yes, this is for hunting coons!!!

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FX  FX M4 800mm

Hi,

Im new in this forum and I’ve heard positive things about the community so I give it a shot, pun intended. I just bought the gun and Ive been studying a lot from videos and forums, BUT still having open questions.
1. Is the 800mm rifling 1/16?
2. Anybody willing to help me getting quick setup for JSB Exact King .25 (25,39 grain) pellets?

Was thinking just to go basic setup with 4 lines, 3 and 8. Those circled values. Am I on right track?
My plan is just to zero the gun for 30 or 50 meters and to have decent grouping. Going to tune it later after I get radar to measure speeds. Going to range in 5h and have no time for more research so asking for community.

Thank a lot!

PCP Rifle  SOLD Steyer Pro X. 22 caliber

$2,200, Steyer Pro X. 22 caliber pellet semiautomatic air rifle in flawless condition with bipod and 1/2 UNF thread protector. Fantastic PCP shoots wonderfully and stacks pellets at 100 yards. Purchased new from Edgunwest and is still under warranty. Already have a Leshiy 2 that is taking care of my semiautomatic PCP itch so I'm letting this go.

Local pickup in Layton UT. Or you can arrange shipping through Utah Airguns to broker the transaction.

Venmo or cash.

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Air Arms  Running my TX200 without one of the spring guides

In my run up to the Worlds have had issues keeping the gun below the 12 ftlb limit.....

ordered a 12 ft lb spring, arrived and ,,,,,,, its bigger diamter than either of the guides/sleeves I have that the spring travels INSIDE of. The guides the spring goes over/inside the spring fit fine.

Any reason(s) to worry about running it with only the one guide? Its twangy and buzzy but wayyy more consistent than the kit Ive been working with (cant remember who made it or where purchased).

FX  Need Help Form You FX Royale Guys

I just acquired a Royale 500 25 cal. It came with a aftermarket moderator not the original shroud. With the moderator on the gun shoots 1" plus groups at 50 yds. With it off it will shoot 1/2" groups or better a 50 yds. So my question is can a factory shroud be purchased? I looked on FX's site and found nothing. If not what aftermarket moderator would you recommend that will not effect accuracy.

Thanks Les

HW/Weihrauch  Weihrauch HW Model 35 .177 caliber Rifle

Weihrauch HW Model 35 .177 caliber Rifle

Hello to all;

It was back in 1973 when I received one of “Air Rifle Headquarters” Full Line Catalogs that I got my first real exposure to the (Weihrauch) HW 35 series spring break Air Rifle; it was on the cover with a Custom Stock. It was impressive looking indeed; it also had a thumb operated heavy duty breech latch that provided a secure barrel breech lockup. The front sight was a Globe type with replaceable inserts, rear sight adjustable for windage and elevation, “Rekord” adjustable trigger; a really nice looking Air Rifle!! BUT A BIT OUT OF MY PRICE RANGE AT THE TIME!!

Fast forward to 1990, I received a flyer from “Precision Sales International” (same folks I got my BSA Supersport.22 from) advertising an HW Model 35 .177 caliber Deluxe, I immediately ordered one, recalling my 1973 exposure in the ARH Catalog!! Actually the HW- 35 series rifles were the predecessor to the HW 80- series/Beeman R-1 etc. which has a slightly longer stroke, delivering a bit more velocity. The unit I received from “Precision International Sales” had a Walnut stock, no finger grooves, with stock cheek rise, checkering in the pistol grip area, and rubber butt pad, “Rekord” adjustable trigger, adjustable rear sight etc. .177 caliber; a classic looking rifle indeed! Serial number indicated 1988 build date.

After receiving the rifle I put a couple hundred pellets thru the unit for a break in period using Crosman 7.9 grain pellets; adjusted the trigger pull to 2.5 lbs sighted in @ 25 yds , groups of ¾--1 -1/2 inch were the norm. I then pulled the stock off cleaned all take down screws and slots and reassembled using Blue Loc –Tite. My intention all along was to scope this unit, so at this point I removed the sights installed a Bushnell Scopechief 4x32 AO Scope and what Beeman called a Universal Muzzle Brake (really just a muzzle cover) but it covers the front sight mounting area well.

The HW-35 is a big rifle; 45.5 inches OAL, 8.5 lbs, (10 LBS WITH SCOPE) cocking effort 30 lbs; the safety is a push button at the rear of the receiver activated upon cocking! The heavy duty thumb operated breech latch; in my opinion contributes to more consistent accuracy; adds a step to cocking and requires a small relief cut for the thumb latch on the stock for clearance, but worth it in my opinion! Others may disagree.

I had run some accuracy/velocity checks on this Rifle many moons ago, but decided to run a new series for this write up; for one I had a larger selection of pellets to choose from, and two it just seemed like fun to do it once again!! I used Crosman 7.9 grain pellets for the velocity testing. Ten rounds gave me a high of 765 fps and a low of 746 fps. For an average of 755 fps 10.0 ft. lbs. pretty good numbers for a 36 year old!! Actually these numbers are equivalent to the numbers I ran some 15 years ago!!! I have replaced the breech and piston seal twice(synthetic) and piston spring once over the last 34 years as I recall. All accuracy testing was performed at 25 yards from a benchrest . I used 6 different pellets: Crosman PMHP, JSB EXACT, Predator Polymag, Beeman FTS, RWS Superdome and RWS Match; 5 shots each.

Crosman PMHP – 1.130” Center to Center

JSB EXACT – 1.320” Center-Center

PREDATOR POLYMAG .690”Center-Center 4 INTO .320”

RWS Match 1.410” Center-Center

RWS Superdome 1.030” CC / Beeman FTS(H&N) .710” Center-Center

The clear winner was the Pedator Polymags , this pellet is capable of sub half inch groups @ 25 yds, next would be Beeman FTS @ sub ¾” , all the rest were 1 inch groups. I guess by today’s standards these groups would not be to impressive; 36 years ago however, they would be hard to beat!!! In fact with the Polymag Predator pellets and 10 ft. lbs , I think this HW 35 would be pretty competitive with most non magnum spring powered .177 caliber Air Rifles of today , just my opinion!! Also has a very smooth shot cycle.

One thing not in question on this HW 35 is the overall craftsmanship and enduring build quality of this 36 year old Air Rifle, it is extremely well made, dark rich bluing, Walnut Stock with Pistol Grip checkering and cheek rise with Rubber butt pad; hard for me to not tout the Elegance of these Air Rifles from yesteryear!! Been in production since 1951 and still being produced today!!!!

One other thing I might mention, the Bushnell Scopechief 4x32 AO scope has been on this rifle since late 1990, it has not slipped once, nor have the crosshairs rotated or in any way give me any trouble, a $12.95 purchase at Wally World, this also speaks to the quality of products in that time frame!!!

Course with us air gun aficionados, one thing is constant; exposure to one Air Rifle seems to require another Air Rifle. In my case; yep a HW model 80!!!!!!!! Maybe next time!!!

Garey

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FX  New FX m4 question ( new to PCP )

Hey guys

Just got my new FX impact M4 and started shooting for the first time…. Had some questions you guys might be able to answer

Gun specs
FX M4 700 .30
JSB diabolo exact .30 44.75gr

Questions:
1. When the gun is uncocked I can barely turn the fine adjustment screw up or down it is crazy stiff and takes all the effort I can to move it…. The macro adjustment moves fine and the setting it around 4 and still hard to move the micro

2. I notice shoot g the .30 pellets that they shoot pretty consistent around 900-905 but if I wait about 30-60 seconds in between shots the FPS hits down to like 880-890

3. What do you guys prefer to zero your scope at right now it’s at 35 but not sure if that is good or not

4. What FPS do you shoot .30 pellets at usually

This is the 35 meter group after some tuning

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Other  Cold shot accuracy

A few weeks ago I was reading through the "Whats your most onsitently accurate airgun?" thread. Regulator creep andcold shot accuracy was brought up. So this got me wondering and I decided to do a little test with my RTI Prophet Performance with a .25 RPB barrel installed.
I have my Prophet tuned to shoot JSB 33.95gr King Heavys at an average of 920 fps. My target board is set at 50 yards with 3 inch splatter targets.

I have been in and out as this is my busy season so here are 5 cold shots spread out from October 9th through today October 28th.

Cold shot #1. No site in or dry fire. Just load a pellet and take the shot.
Time, date and tempreture logged on target.
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Cold shot #2
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Cold shot #3
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Cold shot #4
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This was this morning and I was going to wait until I got back next week for the fifth shot, but then I thought about why I would be taking a cold shot in the first place.
I am not a hunter, but I did buy my first serious PCP to deal with raccoons that were killing my chickens after the sun went down, so I decided the fifth shot would be after dark.
I do not have a light on my Prophet, so I brought out my TalonP along with it for illumination.
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and this is cold shot #5 from just a few minutes ago.
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Yes, there are some very minor incosistancies between cold shots, but enough to be a problem? Not for me.

Anyone else care to join in on this little experiment?

Benjamin  SSG for .22 Benjamin Marauder rifle

Hi. New to PCP air guns and I have a .22 Benjamin Marauder which I really like. I have not done anything to the rifle and shot 3 magazines per fill (from 3000 down to 2000 PSI). I recently came across SSGs and saw how they can increase shot count, and I'd like to put one in my gun. Which SSG do you guys recommend and where can I buy it from? I did some research and did not find any obvious ready to buy options, and it seems like people make their own. Happy to consider both options but leaning to buying something ready to go versus building my own. Thanks!
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MASSIVE BlackHound discount!

The link is below and they are not advertising this.I found out through a WHOTEEWHO video.



PCP Rifle  SOLD EdGun L2 .30 +extras

Selling My Edgun L2 in .30. This gun comes with four .30 magazines, speed loader, front grip, aluminum grip, carbon fiber barrel shroud (Valkyrie kit I believe), Comes with carbon fiber tank as well as aluminum cylinder, variety of .30 pellets and slugs also includes .22 short conversion kit. standard shroud and 3 magazines in .22. Owners guide, warranty card shipped in a hard case. Scope optional, not included in the sale price.

Asking $2000obo shipping included.

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Amazing Airgun Store

Made a trip to Utah last week from Michigan. Spent time in Salt Lake City and then traveled to Zion. Realized that Utah Airguns was on the way so had to make a stop. What an impressive showroom with dozens of rifles on display
But even more impressive was the staff. Super friendly and full of great info. Wish I would have had more time there. Did purchase a souvenir from Perry.

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PCP Rifle  SOLD FX impact M3 .30 +extras

Selling my FX impact M3 standard length in .30. Comes with three magazines, bi pod, Kraford&Lypt under bottle rail/trigger guard, a variety of FX slugs and pellets, palm support grip, FX moderator, FX case and owners guide. Sig Sauer scope optional, will not be included in the sale price. Carbon fiber wrap is easily removable and done by me. Please message me with any questions or if you'd like to see more photos.

Asking $1400obo shipping included.

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Hay the Notos has a new break barrel"

check it out" no pic. yet?
  1. Caliber: The Umarex Notos is typically chambered for .22 caliber pellets, which are larger and heavier compared to .177 pellets. This caliber is suitable for various purposes, including pest control and target shooting.
  2. Break-Barrel Action: The Notos is often a break-barrel air rifle, meaning the barrel is hinged at the receiver and can be manually cocked by breaking it downward to load a pellet.
  3. Sights: Depending on the model, the Notos may come with open sights, such as front and rear fiber-optic sights, which are useful for shooting without optics.
  4. Optics Compatibility: The rifle may include a dovetail or Picatinny/Weaver rail for mounting optical accessories like scopes or red dot sights to enhance accuracy for target shooting.
  5. Stock Design: The stock of the Notos is typically designed to be ergonomic and may feature a textured grip and forearm for better control. The stock design can vary based on the model.
  6. Safety Mechanism: Like all air rifles, the Notos is equipped with safety mechanisms to prevent accidental discharges.
  7. Barrel Length: The length of the barrel can affect accuracy and muzzle velocity and may vary between models.
  8. Adjustable Trigger: Some versions of the Notos may have an adjustable trigger, allowing users to customize the trigger pull to their preference for improved accuracy.
  9. Power Source: The Notos is usually powered by a spring-piston mechanism, where a spring compresses air to propel the pellet when the rifle is cocked and fired.
  10. Sound Moderation: Depending on the model, the Notos may have built-in sound moderation or a suppressor to reduce the noise generated when firing, making it quieter for backyard shooting or pest control.
  11. Weight: The weight of the Notos can vary depending on the model and features.
  12. Capacity: Most break-barrel air rifles, including the Notos, are single-shot rifles, meaning they require manual reloading after each shot.

Did i get rid off? Euros to dollars help/advice pls

(Solved, my mistake was thinking E sign was euros, but I guess it was pound to USD and everything checked out. I just thought I got ripped off cause I was thinking their prices was in euros)

So I bought an eagle vision gopro mount from eagle vision. It was 331 euros total with shipping. I just checked my bank account. Eagle vision took out $430.23 from my bank account. Like wtf. Did I just got robbed? Cause I google 331 euros and that is suppose to be $357.89. So why did eagle vision charge me $430.23? I did not want to pay that much for just a mounting system, doesn't even include the gopro. Hmmmmm. Is my euro to USD incorrect or what? Kinda feel bummed dang.

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HW/Weihrauch  How hard is it to make your own stock?

Someone was asking about CS stocks, and I nearly asked this question there. Then I remembered how irritating it can be when things go off on a tangent.
I’m a leftie and have a HW50 which I am using for paper targets as I try to develop my skills for next year’s local field target club. It seems to me that I’d benefit from either an adjustable cheek piece, butt piece, and a hamster, OR a custom fitted stock.
I’ve seen a YouTube video on someone making a stock - so now I know everything 😂 just kidding.
It made me wonder how difficult it would be to make a stock along the lines of my HW50 stock, but with the design tweaked for FT? I don’t want to take a saw to my stock because it would reduce its resale value if ever I decide to sell it.
One initial question I have is about inletting. I read that the action tube is 29.4 or 29.6 mm in diameter. I assume that a 30 mm round router would be a good fit to house it - does that make sense?
If anyone would care to answer any part of this question I’d appreciate it. Also appreciated would be photos/tips of stocks you’ve made for airguns. Thanks.
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I need some help understanding optics theory

I'm new to this forum but I've been searching it and using it for a little while now. I just never made an account til now. I'm much more beginner than most everyone here. I shot bb's as a kid and somehow (thankfully) got back into it at 35 haha. I've got a CO2 Umarex pistol and my Gamo break barrel should be here today. That's my setup and I don't plan on changing it much for a little while.

The Gamo is scope only with no sights built in. I like the reflex sights as a closer range option at 10 yards or so. But I don't understand well enough. Optics are there to compensate for drift or fall as the pellet flies correct? All things being constant, I would just calibrate the optics to point to where the pellet will hit. So why is leveling and precision mounting so important? Wouldn't calibrating the optics take that into account?
Also, the reflex sights are often talked about as mounted offset on semiautomatic rifles. So I see a lot about how the shooter tilts the rifle to switch from scope to sights. I understand that this is to keep the rifle in its optimal position. Me using a break barrel, I need to lose that position with every shot anyway. So can I hold the rifle in the normal upright position and use the sight at its angled position? I would just adjust it to point where the pellet will hit, right?
There's gotta be stuff that I don't know or understand, but this is where I am so far. From what I know or don't know, I don't understand why certain things need to be done when the optics need to be dialed in anyway.

Umarex  Talk me out of a Umarex Gauntlet 2 sl30

I am fairly new to air rifles but not firearms. I have been shooting my Airacuda Max in .22 and enjoy it. I would like a .30 Cal for bigger game. Airgun Channel has convinced me that the would be a good choice. I have done a bit of research and I really like the following features: Bottle 4500 PSI air tank, supported by Hajimoto, upgradable, accurate, will shoot slugs if I want, and side lever. The weight is certainly a thing but it's not much heavier than the Airacuda. I would like to keep my budget under $800. I have looked at the Hatsan Blitz but I don't need semi or full auto and would rather have accuracy. I realize the M60b is in the same arena but I cannot find it in .30 cal, Am I missing anything?

Late Season North Dakota Prairie Dog Hunt

Jbravo103 and I went pdogg'n today, it was a beautiful day 68° mostly sunny with wind 5 to 10 mph.

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There were plenty of prairie dogs but they were very wild.

It's drier than Hawkeye's martini here in ND so we had to go to a different dog town as the land owner didn't want us driving through his pasture.

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The wind was tough to get a accurate wind hold as it was up to 10 then drop to 5 and back to 10.

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This is the latest in the year we have been able to shoot pdogs.

We had snow by this time the past few years.
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Till next year !
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Thanks for reading !
Brian

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