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Bonkers for Hunting

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As Friday’s meeting trudges along like a slow-motion car crash, I find myself gazing out the window. Grey clouds are hurtling across the sky with a bit too much enthusiasm for my liking, heading towards the setting sun as if they've got a dinner reservation. Inside, my colleagues are droning on about the Local Government Review, while my mind is off in the wilds, contemplating the weekend’s hunting escapades. As the meeting finally fizzles out, they shift to an exhilarating discussion about tomorrow’s weather—grim, apparently—and, shock horror, decide to cancel their golfing plans. Absolute lightweights.

Someone turns to me and asks, “So, what are you up to tomorrow?” “Shooting,” I reply nonchalantly. “In the rain?” they ask, eyebrows halfway up their foreheads. “You bet,” I say with a grin. “You’re bonkers,” they say. “Yep, bonkers for hunting.”

Later that evening, I’m at home, prepping my gear. My loyal Labrador, Alfie, watches my every move like a suspicious housekeeper. I do my usual check on Windguru, a weather website designed for surfers and sailboarders, though I’ve sneakily repurposed it for my hunting exploits. It’s pretty accurate for wind speeds and directions at ground level—absolute gold for airgunners. According to Windguru, it’ll be drizzly at first with a good bit of wind, but things will brighten up later. I hatch my plan accordingly, and as I set the alarm for 4 a.m., my lovely wife groans. “You’re bonkers,” she says. “Yep, that’s me—bonkers for hunting.”

By half-four in the morning, I’m at the farm, yawning like it’s going out of fashion. Dawn is still a good couple of hours away, and the world is as dark as a coal miner’s socks. Alfie’s whining in the backseat, keen as mustard—he lives for this stuff. Me? Well, I wouldn’t say I’m thrilled about standing in a soggy field in the middle of the night, but I soldier on. I step out of the Jeep, greeted by relentless drizzle and a wind that’s doing its best impersonation of a hurricane. Perfect.

Armed with my FAC Airgun Technology Vulcan 3 in .25 calibre, shooting 34 H&N slugs at 960 fps and equipped with an Arken Zulus digital day and night vision scope with a built-in laser rangefinder, I’m ready. After five minutes of standing around like a lemon, my eyes finally adjust to the murky gloom. Shapes start emerging from the blackness—fence posts, saplings... probably not ghosts. We’re in business. Alfie, now practically vibrating with excitement, senses movement before I do. He’s already pulling on the slip, eager to chase something, anything, that moves. I head for the edge of the wood, drop to one knee in the soggy grass, and the dog instantly sits beside me like the professional he occasionally pretends to be.

I flick on the night vision, scanning across the field. A couple of distant white orbs glint back—probably rabbits, but at 160 metres they’re too far away and too close to the woods. Then I spot a closer pair of eyes, ranged 67 metres out. Target acquired. I line up the shot on the unsuspecting rabbit’s head.

Boom. Or rather, not boom, but a polite air rifle pop. Except I forgot two crucial things: the gusty wind and telling Alfie to stay put. Naturally, I miss, and Alfie, ever the optimist, charges off to fetch the non-existent kill. He’s still got his slip lead on, and after a few bounding strides, he steps on it, flipping himself head over tail in a spectacular display of canine acrobatics. He yelps like a banshee, and there we are—me, standing in the dark, not sure whether to laugh or cry. Any rabbits within a 5-mile radius have now scarpered, no doubt cackling in their little warrens.

Alfie limps back to me, thoroughly unimpressed, and we trudge off to the barn to reassess our life choices. Half an hour later, I’m sitting in the barn’s doorway, sheltering from the rain, and wondering why on earth I keep doing this. Pest control in the pitch black, faffing about with air rifles, hands cold, toes squelching—utter madness. But on a good night, when things actually go to plan, it’s quite effective, and besides, my landowners expect me to do it. Yep, I must be bonkers for hunting.

At least I get to enjoy the dawn chorus—a pair of tawny owls saying their goodbyes, rooks flocking noisily to the ploughland, and in the distance, rabbits emerge again as the rain eases up. I let them have their breakfast and head home, followed by a damp and sulking lab.

After a quick breakfast (it’s still only 7:30!), I’m off to another permission for some squirrel hunting. This time, I leave Alfie behind—his pride needs a bit of time to recover.

I switch the Vulcan 3 PCP for my trusty Weihrauch HW97K .177 spring-powered airgun. Love my sub-12 springers.

People often tell me I’m lucky to have so much hunting permission, but as the saying goes, the harder I work, the luckier I get. Since last April, I’ve taken a lot of pests from this estate, especially grey squirrels. The Lady of the estate doesn’t see it that way, though. To her, the greys are still raiding her bird tables, so in her eyes, I might as well be napping in the barn. But nature abhors a vacuum—clear one squirrel, another moves in, like clockwork. I’ve started leaving squirrel tails with Arthur, the gardener, just to show I’m not slacking.

As the sun rises, I spot a grey squirrel from the Jeep on my way in. I quietly park up and slip into the woods, immediately hearing the telltale scrabble of a grey at work. Five yards away. Airgunner’s nightmare—too close. I slowly lower the rifle, hoping to catch it unaware, and miraculously, it runs to the base of the tree where I’m standing. I can’t believe my luck—18 inches from my barrel. One shot, job done. What are the chances? Good start.

I make my way into the woods, on the lookout for rogue squirrels. Along the way, I startle a female roe deer and her fawn, a beautiful sight, though I suspect they’ve been making a nuisance of themselves in the sugar beet.

The stalk through the woodland is a bit like navigating a treacle swamp—slow, deliberate, and rather damp thanks to the morning’s rain. The leaf mulch underfoot is like walking on a bed of soggy sponges. I take five careful steps... stop, listen, and have a good look around. I catch a glimpse of a grey tail, half-buried in its leafy hideaway about 35 meter off.

Now, there’s a fair bit of dodgy advice floating about regarding squirrels and airguns—chiefly, that ‘headshots only’ is the way to go. Utter codswallop, if you ask me. You can just as humanely finish a grey with a heart or lung shot. So, I give this little digger a proper dose behind the shoulder, and down it goes, its head firmly planted in the dirt.

As I’m processing this, I hear a scurrying nearby—another grey, clearly not too impressed by the modest bark of the HW97K. It’s hunkered down behind some scrub. I cock the gun, load another pellet and give the ground a good stomp. Predictably, the grey bolts up a birch trunk and freezes, looking for the source of the commotion. At 25, maybe 30 metres—my primary zero—I line up the centre crosshair. Easy shot.

Venturing further into the wood, I stick to my five-step strategy, paying close attention to every sound. And there it is again—the scrabbling. I navigate around a pine trunk to find the grey buried in its digging, roughly 20 meter away but partially hidden by twigs. It pops out, clutching a beech nut, and leaps onto a fallen branch, right into my crosshairs. Bad move. Terminal move.

By late morning, with the rain now coming down in earnest and not much else stirring, it’s time to call it a day. On the walk back to the Jeep, another grey decides to make an appearance on an ash branch. Even though I’m about ready to drop, it’s another cull.

I leave five tails hanging in a bag by the gardener’s hut. As I drive slowly down the driveway, I can’t help but curse under my breath as I spot more greys cavorting around the woodland edge. I’ll be back, of course. Because I’m bonkers for hunting.

N/A  Cometa Fenix 400 .22

Just got this in from Keystone Airguns and gotta say I'm impressed. The gun seems well made but not fancy which I really like. Compared to my HW30S I'm afraid to use it and get it banged up.
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This gun quality wise seems great for the money. Also for being a higher power .22 I got to say the shot cycle feels great. Shooting this compared to my HW30S I now understand what people mean by buzzy and twangy. And I'm not talking about the Cometa lol. Not sure how heavy the trigger is but I have no issues with it at all. Nice and light and good 2 stage. Put some pellets tonight just to get it roughly sighted in with the open sights and found the gun balanced very well. Not really hard to shoot off hand. This was shooting at 10yds with CPHPs just off hand working the windage over to center. For not shooting offhand much in a long time I find it easy to shoot well and put quite a few very close to eachother.
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Then this was 4 shots at 20yds off hand. Again pretty good for my skills. I pulled that one down low but still not bad at all.
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So far initial impressions are great. I'm looking forward to really breaking it in and getting to know it better. But for a $269 gun, I don't think it can be beat. Ive been kicking the idea of a decent .177 to play with maybe a PCP as i dont have one, but if this gun keeps it up i might go for a USC version of this instead.

Airgun Technologies  Vulcan 3 .177 Assembly

Anyone care to PM me or post diagrams of how the V3 air tube is assembled? UGH, I hate to have to ask but I took my 177 Vulcan 3 apart a while back in an attempt to install a depinger. I thought I had everything good to go but I've lost 300fps in velocity. I was shooting 13.43gn pellets over 900fps but now it's down in the 600's. I've taken it apart several times and it seems like the only way it will go back together without leaking air thru the seep hole is in this 600fps configuration. I've removed the depinger but still don't seem to be able to get it back together the right way.
The transfer port is lined up but the gun does seem to make more of a "splat" sound when it fires..... Any thoughts?

I want to sell the rifle after Tony @ Talon Tunes goes thru it but I wanted to resolve this issue before sending it to him.

Vevor compressor teardown and rebuild video I found after mine stopped working

I have the tall version of the compressor in the video but other than the orientation they appear to be the same unit. Mine stopped compressing air, all moving parts are working, so I'm assuming an o-ring has failed somewhere.
I'm posting this video for those of you that would like to replace o-rings and so I can find it later.
There are a couple of steps that I wouldn't have done in the correct order the first time around.
Now it's time to hit all the storage spots I might have hidden the o-ring replacement kit for the compressor....

Vevor 4500psi shoebox compressor tear down/rebuild video
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Other  Bintac MCAR (Multi Caliber Air Rifle) 1000 yd MOA Long Range .457 (Video Review)

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Should AGN ad a section for Bintac? The T9 was awesome and this .457 Bintac MCAR is by far the most easy to shoot and accurate big bore airgun I have seen yet. This thing is amazing! The gun shoots itself if you let it (don't hold it too tight). This amazing PCP is the top of the heap when it comes to big bore long range PCP's. There is nothing better in my opinion. At 19 pounds it's not the best for hunting, but if your looking to win big bore airgun competitions, this is your gun. Great PCP sniper rifle, available NOW at Airgun Tactical. Thanks for tuning in! -Nate

Traditional Pistol  SOLD CO2 pistol kit for sale

I put this kit together intending to do indoor winter league shooting but life won’t allow time. These pistols are nearly new with very limited use. Kit all packs up nicely in a lockable hard case that is included. Includes everything in the pic…less co2. $150 plus shipping.
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Brocock/BRK  My Viscious Atomic XR…

This little PCP has won my heart over by performing consistently on pests and targets. Hundreds of pests down, and counting… It’s understood it’s not a benchrest shooter. But the accuracy still leaves me flabbergasted…🙈 My reason for this post? Just finished a casual nighttime plinking session while enjoying a brew. Targets at 25, 40 and 50 yards. Atomic XR with Zulus atop, bipod front no rear rest. Sidewalk chalk, small plastic saline bottles, plastic rats, etc.

N/A  Multishot springers - what to go for?

Evening all,
I recently went shooting with a friend for the first time and had such a blast (no pun intended). I've been looking into getting myself an air rifle, and am keen to go for a springer, as I've been told this is the best place to start, but I am quite intrigued by the multishot system that quite a few manufacturers offer (Gamo, Milbro, Crosman). I'm interested to hear any thoughts on what these are like, and how they compare to normal single shot springers. Any advice? Cheers!
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PCP Rifle  WTS Ultimate Umarex Notos starter kit*new low price*

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If you want other pictures just message me

Selling my beloved Notos and all accessories!

Thing is basically brand new, 200ish pellets just enough to fully text for quality and defects

No leaks no problems no damage basically brand new!

Bought like 2 months ago, never registered warranty, might beable to transfer to buyer? Idk but it's in perfect condition

Comes with a whole slew of accessories,optics, and attachments!

-1 umarex notos with original box and paperwork

-mounted and zerod UTG 3x9 bugbuster scope with QD monts

-pistol grip and sights

-high scope ring mounts

-one piece scope mount

-buckrail forgrip with mlock slots

-scope cap for bugbuster

-tasco red dot

-Weaver new in package "1 in extra high" scope mounts (not pictured)

-3 tins of various pellets ...2 full 1 2/3 ish full (500 count crosman)

Never traded on here but I also listed it on reddit where I have made numerous transactions and trades and have built a solid reputation

Asking $425 ...by my calculations with tax and shipping have invested nearly $700

Text for inquiries 480 277 2871


Ended up not selling when I first listed this but im getting the itch to buy a new gun again and the wife says got to get rid of one too buy 1 so here I am listing it again

Like I said literally nearly brand new, shot just enough to fully test quality and for any defects
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Transonic and BC at muzzle versus mid flight

I had an interesting thought.

Assuming we want to stay sub-transonic (And lets assume thats 900 FPS), how important is lets say the initial 10 yards of flight. Do we want to aim for 900 FPS right at the muzzle or further in the trajectory.

Am I over thinking this?

For example if you launch a Diablo 22/25 cal @ say 940 - 950 it's going to drop out of the low transonic range by about 15/20 yards into its flight. Assuming we are shooting 50 / 100 yards then the majority of the flight will be below transonic.

Thoughts

Mike

Umarex  Notos gauge block

Hello all
been looking for one of those gauge blocks that fit the pp750 / Notos
long story short i finally got access to a AutoCAD CNC Machine
took my block off and to my buddies' machine shop to make a few.

been trying to buy one since purchasing the Notos but no luck
anyways if there is any interest i will be making a few seeing i already purchased the material if there is enough interest in them i will have him make a couple dozen.
that's all folks

Latest Penetration Test Results

I started some magazines soaking late yesterday and shot into them this morning. This paragraph will all be things I've posted before so if you've heard it before feel free to skip ahead. I shoot wet paper based upon writings by Finn Aagard who was a professional hunter in Africa and later a writer. Finn said penetration in wet paper (he used newspaper as I used to) better simulated penetration in animal muscles than things like ballistic gel. I also use wet magazines because they cost me nothing. I just save them up and shoot them. My minimum standard for penetration is my Prod. With it's original tune I lost a couple squirrels and hung one I did kill on a tree to see how far various pellets would penetrate. None made it through. My Prod was tuned to 12-13 fpe. I did a retune to it's current level of about 18 fpe. With domed pellets it will shoot through a squirrel at 25 yards but only if I do not hit the shoulder or other heavy bone. I've only lost one squirrel since the retune and it was a brain shot that flopped itself into a rotted out area of a large oak. I always shoot a few pellets from the Prod into the test block of paper. I get fairly consistent results but this lets me calibrate one test to the previous tests. Normally the Prod penetrates about 9-10 magazines.

I used mostly American Rifleman magazines but there were a couple old Car and Driver and one or two AARP magazines in the stack. They average about 80 pages. Glossier magazines like the BMW magazine I also get seem to resist penetration more. They might also have more pages. So I try not to use those. As long as the magazines have about the same number of glossy printed pages and about the same number of pages I don't think it matters what they are.

I fired at least 3 projectiles of each type into the block but I couldn't find a couple. That is not unusual for me, that's why I shoot several. There will be pictures so you might want to know the Prod is at the bottom left, next to it is the P35-177, then my Caiman X, then my P35-22, then the P35-25. I thought this bottom portion of the pile might be more consistent but when I took it apart I don't think it was. I got more penetration in a couple shots that hit low and might have skipped a magazine or part of it. On the top right there are several shots from my 25 caliber Avenger and then to the left of that several from the P35-22 shooting metal mags and further left 4 H&N 34 grain slugs from my P35-25.

The Prod was shooting H&N copper plated FTTs at about 750 fps. The two pellets I found went through 9 magazines.
The P35-177 was shooting H&N Baracuda FTs at about 880 fps. I found 1 in the 9th magazine and three in the 10th. One fell out of the 10th.
The Caiman X was shooting H&N Baracuda 18s at about 920 fps. I found 2 pellets in the 17th magazine, one in the 18th, one low in the 19th and one low in the 20th.
The P35-22 shoots H&N Baracuda Match at about 820 fps. I found three in the 17th magazine and one in the 19th but it hit low.
The P35-25 was shooting JSB MKII heavies at about 750 fps. I found them in the 18th, 19th, and after the 20th magazine.
The 25 Avenger was shooting FX 25.4s at about 900 fps. I found them two in the 15th magazine and one in the 17th.
I found 2 of the three metal mags I shot in the 6th magazine. I don't know their velocity but I was using the P35-22 so it was probably close to 900 fps.
I found the 4 H&N slugs from the P35-25 in the 10th, two in the 11th, and one in the 13th magazine. Velocity was probably only about 700 fps.

I shot the metal mags and the slugs just to illustrate the difference expansion makes. The P35-22 shooting the domed pellets it likes went through 11 more magazines than the metal mags. I would not use a metal mag from this gun on a squirrel because in my opinion the penetration is insufficient. This sort of result is why I test. On the other hand, the 34 grain slugs penetrated sufficiently even if it was 7 magazines or so less than the pellets. Using them instead of pellets could limit over penetration.

This was a new pellet for the P35-177 since my last test with it and the Caiman X is a new gun for me and a new pellet. I used to use slightly heavier H&N Baracuda Match in the 177 but the penetration of the under 11 grain FTs was fine. The Caiman X is similar in fpe to the P35-22 shooting 18 grain pellets faster than the P35s 21 grain. Penetration was about the same with the Caiman possibly going a bit deeper. This type of penetration turns into a high percentage of exit wounds in squirrels in my experience. My 25s are modestly power in the world of 25 caliber airguns but with domed pellets they have plenty pf penetration. With the right expanding pellet or slug they should still be fine for small game.

The first picture shows the magazines in the drywall bucket I soaked them in. The twine was very loose before they soaked in the water. The next picture shows the pellets I dug out of the paper. The metal mags are on the bottom and the slugs in the middle right. The expansion is pretty obvious. The domed pellets show rifling marks but otherwise look about like what they did before I shot them. I had a picture of the front of the paper file but it seems to be too big. It doesn't show a lot but the holes of the paper do not look bigger, at least at the front and to my eye inside the stack, for the expanding projectiles. They probably are bigger holes but the difference is not remarkable enough for me to notice it.

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BSA  A 25 caliber Steutzen!

I still want one in shooting condition. It was in the first half of the 80s, Beeman cataloged it. Was it BSA or perhaps Webley? Would like to find one. Does anyone have one or know of one to sell? I never saw one "up close and personal". I am sure I lost those catalogues in a basement flood. Still saddens me the literature I lost. I had Beeman and RWS catalogs for several years. Beeman was one of my favorite dreaming literature. NOT Playboy or that other garbage. I have been enamored of fine wood and steel my whole life. Airguns, cartridge, and muzzleloaders, all have pleased me over the years. And this system tells me I want to type Berman instead of Beeman! CONFOUND IT JIMMY ! ¡ ! Be Well Brothers, Bandito.

Old Daisy oil

I was gifted an old Daisy 111. I am going to start the cleanup process and was wondering about what type of oil to use in the oil hole in the barrel?
I had heard a NON detergent 30 weight motor oil would work. The problem is that I think a NON detergent 30 weight motor oil is hard to find now a days.
Does anyone have a brand name NON detergent 30 weight motor oil that they would recommend? Does it specify "NON detergent" on the label?
Is there any other oil you would recommend?
Thanks.

Umarex  Notos over 100 yards

So two weeks ago I was doing some shots at 40-50 yards with the Notos at some targets I had beside the shed. Then decided to stretch it out a little more. Once I got the holdover figured out I was able to pretty consistently hit this plastic jug on a stick at just a little over 100 yards in a light variable wind. Even though it’s not that small of a target, I was pretty happy with that. Who else is pushing the Notos into unintended territory, distance or otherwise?
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Other  How often do regulators need rebuilding?

I have 3 PCP guns 2 are regulated. Last few days I setup my shooting bench and checked the accuracy and speed of the pellets. The Edgun R5M and AGT Vixen are regulated guns were bad at more than 1.5" to 2" at 33 yards. The last time I checked they were much better like 1/3" or less. I pulled out the Marauder to check am I that lousy of a shot or are the others guns bad. My 1st and cheapest gun the unregulated Marauder was the most accurate like 1/2" at 33 yards with a low un-regulated ES. The velocities of the R5M and Vixen had ES over 50 fps at times. So I think the regulators are bad and need re-building.

The Vixen is 2021 and the Edgun is 2018. Never rebuilt the regulators. Maybe they would last longer if I didn't fill to 300 bar and leave them like that for months! They never leaked any air.

Funny, the cheapest gun the Marauder I don't use 1+ year, just works, no leaks, zero stays put, no reg problems, but the velocity dropped from last I checked from 840 fps to 810 fps.

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The REALLY, real- real BC

Edit- thanks everyone for a lot of answers. Before I posted this I did not know enough to simply ask the question any better.
So here is what (or how) I think I should have asked it:
Why does the drag law I am being told, or recommended, to use in certain apps differ?
Why does the bc on the tin not match what the calculator says it will do AND not match what I see in real life?
I have a ton of stuff to go try out now and I don't feel stuck so thanks.

P.S.
Some people are super smart and they like showing off and that can come across as talking down. But I grew up on the less fun end of a one-way range so it's pretty hard to hurt my feelings. I'm new to improving at this level, not 10 years old.
People can be any combination of wrong, right, nice or a big turd about it. It's all paying for education and now I've got homework or else I just wasted everyone's time with a less than optimal question that ya'll kindly took the time to try to answer.
I can tell you all that there are a LOT fewer and less angry know it alls in this world than in real guns, 3 gun especially. Some folks maybe should be nicer and other people maybe need to let more attitudes slide.


Guys and gals I have been doing my homework which means I have tried figuring it out on my own before bothering you fine folks.
I have a chrony built into my barrel and one at 25 yards.
I am using JSB Exact 44.75gr, a well calibrated mg scale and a brand of micrometer for head size that is so German I'd get kicked out of Disneyland (again) for saying it out loud. What am I doing wrong?
I'm getting bcs from low .03s to mid- high .04s.
I've read some things that are way too complex that I don't have equipment for, radar and such, but we have been figuring bc on paper forever.
What do I do? I intended to go through all my JSB weights and play on all the ballistics calcs to scratch my autism itch for the day but I never got past the JSB exact 44.75.
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