One of the critical choices we make as airgun shooters is the caliber of our weapon. The range is wide, from the standard .177 and .22 to larger calibers like .25, .30, .357, .45, .50, and beyond.

Each caliber brings its own strengths and potential drawbacks, and the "right" choice often depends on your intended use, be it hunting, target shooting, pest control, or plinking.

Let's discuss:

1. What's your preferred caliber, and why did you choose it?
2. How does your choice of caliber affect your shooting performance and experience?
3. If you have used different calibers, what have been your observations?
4. Any specific brands/models that shine in certain calibers?
5. What is the future of airgun calibers - will we see larger calibers becoming more common?

Eager to hear your thoughts.

I am thinking about getting a PCP air rifle in 22 caliber (unless I should go bigger?) this year once out backyard fence goes up. Can anyone recommend a PCP pellet rifle under 35.75" (to fit in my safe) overall length? I'd like it to be quiet as well so the barrel needs to be threaded.

I had in mind to get a benjamin marauder but that's far too long in length. The furthest distance in my back yard is around 90-100 feet. I'd like it to be capable of 1" groups or less at that range if I do my part. Ill say I don't have a budget but as my first PCP, I don't want to spend too much because I don't know how much I'll shoot. If I have to spend more for quality and the ability to get parts and better customer service, that's fine. I don't think I need a FX $1500 rifle.

I don't believe any youtube recommendations much since imo a lot are paid for advertising.

This will be for back yard plinking and small game. Rabbits/raccoons are the biggest animals.

I plan to use a hand pump at first but from what I read here, that gets old quick. If I somehow start shooting a lot, I'll do an electronic pump. I do not mind buying the rifle or optic used but I'm not ready to purchase right now.

Feel free to be honest and tell me things I don't want to hear. Thoughts.....?

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https://www.regulations.gov/document/CPSC-2023-0021-0001

The undersigned opposes the Consumer Product Safety Commission’s proposed Direct Final Rule in Docket No. CPSC-2023-0021. As written, the effect of the Commission’s proposed rule would have significant and unnecessary economic impact on the undersigned and all in the air-soft industry. The Regulatory Flexibility Act (AFA), 5 U.S.C. 601-612 does apply and requires the Commission to prepare an analysis under 5 U.S.C. 603, 604. Without comment from the industry, the proposed Direct Final Rule would be inappropriate and unacceptable without changes.

The Commission’s stated basis for the Direct Final Rule Process is that the new 16 CFR Part 1272 contains no substantive changes from regulations in effect now for more than 30 years. The reason for the new 16 CFR Part 1272 is that recent federal legislation has transferred oversight and enforcement of the regulation from the Department of Commerce to the Commission. Because the Consumer Product Safety Act requires certain certifications for products subject to regulations enforced by the Commission (see Supplementary Information, Paragraph G in the docket entry), the new, proposed 16 CFR Part 1272 would unnecessarily impact the air-soft industry negatively, substantively and financially.

The subject regulation was enabled by 15 U.S.C. § 5001 which imposes certain marking requirements on “look-alike firearms.” Look-alike firearms include “air-soft guns firing nonmetallic projectiles.” 15 U.S.C. § 5001 (c). While the undersigned have long complied with this statute and 16 CRR Part 1272, there has been no requirement for any general product certifications (GCC). Now, apparently, there would be such a requirement. See Supplementary Information, Paragraph G in the docket entry.

Because the Commission states in the subject docket entry that the Commission would be requiring GCCs for air-soft guns, the undersigned and the industry request an opportunity to comment under the Administrative Procedure Act (APA). See generally, 5 U.S.C. 551-559. The undersigned and the industry request that opportunity to address whether GCCs for air-soft guns under 16 CFR Part 1272 is necessary. It is readily apparent upon visual examination whether an air-soft gun complies with 16 CRR Part 1272 marking requirements. GCCs are not necessary.

The undersigned believe the Commission is also required to conduct a flexibility analysis under 5 U.S.C. 603, 504. Many in the industry are small businesses.

The undersigned also state that they and others in the industry are not equipped to provide GCCs for their air-soft products, in the near future, particularly those that would comply with the legal requirements. See, e.g., 15 U.S.C. 2063 (g). Many of their air-soft products are in transit, in inventory, with distributors, and in retail stores.

Accordingly, the undersigned request the Commission withdraw the proposed direct final rule. The undersigned appreciate and understand the Commission’s approach and requests the Commission consider excepting air-soft guns from any requirement for GCCs.

Thank you for your consideration.

All tins are full except the fx tin its maybe 1/4 full.
$55 just tins of pellets not 2 bags.
Thanks

Im in a few days I'm purchasing or $ commitment to a dedicated 100 yard only airgun. I have a AGT Uragan in .22 compact for pest duty & .25 full size for 100y. I have shot sub moa w/ pellets but I'm ready for something different to try. I have talked to Martin on a RAW being built slightly differant then offered & will know about that soon. I dislike carbon wraps & really dislike shrouds. I shoot the .25 Uragan bare.. I would go Evol if they didn't do the shroud thing.. & again I dislike them that bad. Also single grub screws for barrel retainment don't do it for me & at least looks like RAW uses 3. I much would prefer a threaded into action gig but doesn't seem to many do that. Are there any other then AAA Evol that are threaded without shroud systems. ?
Thanks Joe

So, I took this Rapid on trade from an extremely nice gentleman. And All I can say is "WOW"! Its beautiful to the eye, gets a high shot count with 500cc bottle and being regulated, and shoots as well as it looks.

4 shot group with Crossman Premier 14.3 lubed and unsorted with magazine. 100yds!

Well, after having bought more PCP's that I should had along years, these are my personal conclusions in regard of the rifles I own and have owned:

1.- Buying cheap rifles do not prevent you to ending spending more money.
2.- There are ONLY three air rifle makers that IMO are ABSOLUTELY reliable (quality and accuracy at very long range):

a) Daystate;
b) Airgun Technology; and
c) Western Airguns with the sidewinder.

3.- Of the three above mentioned, the only one that indistinctly will shoot perfectly pellets and slugs are the rifles made by Airgun Technology (Dayatate and sidewinders shoot perfectly pellets).

I hope at least one member of this forum take into consideration my conclusions in order to get to spend less money than the one I had to be able to get to these conclusions.

If no one takes into consideration my conclusions, then at least they could have in mind that were warned.

Gen 2 mrod .25 cal , tuned and regulated , opened transfer port , light valve spring no leaks shoots very good , two mags ,Boyds stock , or can ship with original wood stock 500.00 location mi pickup or can arrange shipping

With a 2 screen chrono, can dirt on the screens affect the result ? High/low ?

Or, do you get correct results right up to the point when no MV is recorded due to screen S 1 or 2, error ?

SOLD to H2Okenny, pending payment.

Selling my Taipan Veteran Standard .22 which I purchased new. It’s in as new condition with the exception of a faint bump mark that occurred inside my crowded safe. I just need to thin out the space to make room for an incoming BR rifle. This rifle is extremely accurate and has a dream trigger set to break at 3 ounces. I’ve added a picatinny bottom rail and a 3D printed cheek rest. Comes with all original documentation, single shot tray and 2 magazines. Orange paint dots mark fill port opening and fill pressure window. Replaced the barrel clamp bolts with SS bolts.

• My tuning notes:
• Turn HS in until velocity peaks
• Back off HS 3-5% to find the knee
  • Peaks at 963 w/ 18’s
  • 963 x .97 = 934
  • 964 x .95 = 915
• Now tuned to 915, w/18’s
• 65 shots, 250>120 bar
• AA 18’s are the most accurate pellet

PayPal preferred F&F or add 3.5% to cover fees, money order or personal check (shipped after clearing). I have lots of positive feedback here so purchase with confidence.

No trades or low ball offers. $900 Shipped and insured in continental US.

I have a very nice Edgun Veles .22 pistol for sale.

Not many of these around and even fewer for sale.

It’s a powerful, accurate and silent single shot pistol. 735 fps with H&N FTT 14,66gr.

Included in the sale:
Edgun Veles .22
OEM Edgun “LDC”
Manual (unfortunately only in Russian, but loads of pictures in it..)
Fill probe
ADCO Vantage V30 red dot (Japanese made, fairly good for the price!)
Padded pistol case

Price is $1250 $1000 net to me (PayPal preferred). Price includes shipping. Please beware that the package ships from my address in Norway, preferably by UPS.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Erik

I was shooting at the range today and there was several people shooting, someone wanted to go down range so they asked us if we could go cold and everyone was good with that, I was 2 lanes down from a person that was doing something with his gun, I politely said that I was going to go down range and would he put his gun down, was I wrong to ask him to do that, I get up from the bench and stand back if I don’t need to go down range

Wishing I had more land so I didn't have to worry about noise as much but I am curious what your scenario is?

Really curious to see if anyone has swapped out all their powder burners for airguns? If so, what was the driving force behind it?

Ever since I bought my .22 Impact M3 with the 800mm slug liner and tensioner kit I have struggled to be consistant with it. The only real exception was with the JSB Beasts. MOA at 50 yards and .700"-.800" ish at 88 yards. Pushing them at 990-995fps. They are my goto for groundhog and raccoons. I've been shooting NSA 28.5 and 31.2 grains cause that's what I have. I have been plagued by flyers and the need to shoot twice before I could expect grouping. The 1rst regulator was set at 180 bar and would creep to 210 bar. The second regulator was set at 156 bar and would creep to 164 bar. They both were not very consistent even while shooting groups. I finally decided to rebuild both regulators and see if that would help. After watching all of Ernests videos and several from other folks I dove in! I polished the plunger(?)and brass adjuster mating surfaces down to 8000 grit with the 3M polishing cloths. I polished the belville washers, the plunger shafts and all other pertinent areas as I was able. Put it all back together, set the regulators at 175/147 bar, put the scope back on checked zero, which took 2 shots to settle in and proceeded to shoot 18 slugs to see how things would settle in. I shot a few walked around like I do when hunting, took shots from different positions and distances. Dope was off a bit due to the lower 2nd reg setting but so far looks good. I refilled to 235 bar as that's what's in my tank and now after sitting for 3 hrs or so my first regular is at 180 bar and the second is at 151bar. I hope this is where they've settled at. Over the next week I'll work on my tune and hope for the best.

To start this story with a quick bit of history .

We have had a known Trash Panda for many months, I have tried to play nice with this rat bastard but now it's on!

I 1st attempted to ward him off with the traditional methods of Very expensive peppermint oil spray on and around the trash can, Fail, this simply attracted the wiley beast.

Next Bungee cord the lid shut, Fail #2, the SOB actually learned to unhook the damn bungee's

Step 3, Bought a steel enclosure for the trash cans, my issue solved.. so I thought.....

We have a Bird feeder in our back yard that has been mysteriously emptying out faster than normal, I thougt for sure it was a damn deer butting his head into it because a bunch of the bird food was ending up on the ground the next morning and all the corn was gone....

Not a whole helluva i can do about a deer, but wait the plot thickens. I set up one of my Game Trail Cameras and looky what it caught red handed last night....

This Rat Bastard will be dead Very Soon!

here's what I did




I put a 500cc 4500 psi carbon Bottle on it with a 1800psi regulator, easy to do.
all details on GTA

As I work to reduce the number of springers in my collection, up for sale is an absolutely like new HW97KT Black Line stainless look (nickel) .177 caliber rifle.

Very carefully and patiently tuned, this rifle has had very few shots through it post tune. It has a trimmed Vortek PG4-HO kit installed with the Vortek vacuum seal. At last check, it was producing 15.85 FPE. Very consistent, easy to cock, smooth as silk shot cycle. Record trigger components have been hand polished to provide a perfect trigger break.

Offering for $475 (reduced) in fully tuned and like new condition, shipped within the continental US without mounts or optics. To include the Vortex Diamondback 6-24x50 FFP scope and Sports Match vertically adjustable mounts, add $450.

Will ship within one business day after payment is received. Tracking info to be provided.

Thanks for looking! DZ

Check it out.


Chris

My history with PCP airguns began with an Airforce TalonP and progressed to a Condor and two FX Impacts (which are amazing). However, in the never ending pursuit of learning in this great sport of ours, I kept coming across posts touting the reliability, accuracy, and greatness of the Taipan Veteran. I was always intrigued by that, but why would I need one? I have some great guns already. Nevertheless, I loved reading comments from the Taipan faithful and thought it might be something I could consider in the distant future. So, with all that, temptation could not have been greater when the recent sale of the first generation began recently, and I bought a Veteran Standard .25 cal. I have to tell you that I have been absolutely blown away with this gun. It just works- period. It's dead accurate right out of the box- just as accurate as my Impacts, and it's just so compact and easy to hold. I love it. I think it will be my go to gun for a very long time.
This experience has taught me that you really don't have to have the most expensive latest greatest gun to have a great time or even lose a bit of anything. This Taipan Veteran Standard IS the real deal, just like they have been telling me for a long time. Now, I know, experientially, the truth. Thank you, Taipan Faithful, for letting us know.

As I work to reduce the number of springers in my collection (focusing more upon higher end pcps), up for sale is an absolutely like new Air Arms TX200 MKIII in .22 caliber. This rifle features a beautiful light walnut stock with fish scale checkering and a Rowan cocking handle.

Very carefully and patiently tuned, this rifle has had very few shots through it post tune. It has a trimmed Vortek PG4-HO kit installed with the Vortek vacuum seal. At last check, it was producing 15.89 FPE. Very consistent, easy to cock, smooth as silk shot cycle. Record trigger components have been hand polished to provide a perfect trigger break.

Offering for $800 (reduced) in fully tuned and like new condition, shipped within the continental US without mounts or optics. To include the Vortex Diamondback 6-24x50 FFP scope and Sports Match vertically adjustable mounts, add $450.

Will ship within one business day after payment is received. Tracking info to be provided.

Thanks for looking! DZ

It’s now available today!

All I can say is…now I don’t have a worry moving on to an Element scope. See the only reason that stopped me from buying an element scope is the fact that they never had an app like chairgun or SBC.

Which is why I stuck to my trusty Hawke 6-24x56 and ChairGun.

But now that they have their own app, and with all their reticles…I can move on without a worry. The app is pretty cool too.

You have my praises Element team!

I currently only have a umarex origin 22 but I am looking to try out a 25 in my back yard for raccoons.

The stock origin 22 is pretty dang quiet and I'd like to have something fairly quiet as to not raise suspicion in my neighborhood.

I just saw there is a 25 origin now, does anyone have both and can compare the noise level between them? Are there any other sub $500 25 that are reliable and quiet? Would the air venturi avenger 25 be a good choice?