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SOLD PRICE CUT!! .25 Delta Wolf. Outstanding shooter!!

Rifle Only option - includes the rifle with case, silencer adaptor, and FOUR magazines! $2700 $2500 2250 shipped!! (conus only)

This rifle only has a few hundred rounds through it and shoots just as good as my EBR winning Red Wolf!

This .25 cal Delta Wolf. rifle package deal worth over $3825 will include,
FOUR .25 cal Daystate magazines!!
Daystate Delta/Alpha Wolf Programmer!
PRS Arca/Picatinny rail
PRS
Bag Rider
1/2x20 Silencer adaptor
Daystate poly rifle case
All original parts, rails, thread protectors, paperwork, etc.
Everything is in excellent to like new condition except for some dust here and there.
I'm asking $3400 $3000 $2750 for the package deal! Shipped and insured (conus only). The rifle will be double boxed. The rest of the package will be shipped in an additional box.

Payment plan available!
The payment plan is whatever we decide. I would expect a minimum of 60% up front and then an aggressive payment plan that pays off whatever remains within 2-4 months. The rifle and accessories would ship after final payment clears.

No bipod included

Trades considered but, I'm only interested in an FX Royale 500 with power wheel and CF bottle, Or an FX Verminator Extreme in .22 (plus money to make up the difference, as needed).
Paypal preferred. F&F or add 3.5%. Venmo and certified check are also acceptable.

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EdGun Leshiy 2 problems with significant air loss with each trigger pull?

So my L2 is only about 14 months old and out of warranty sadly, it started yesterday with each pull of the trigger a large volume of air also comes out, Brian at EdGun said to adjust the stopper screw, but still it has the problem. The roller still seems round and I don't see any debris and tried different mags, the barrel end is flush etc...

Any other suggestions or will I have to send it in to EdGun West for repairs, any ideas of the cost?

Pressure vs hammer spring at same FPS

Got a question for some of you. When tuning a certain projectile are you only searching for a certain speed/FPS reading that gives you the best group? Reason I'm asking is on my avenger I am planning on leaving the regulator set at it's max 2900psi and only using the hammer spring to tune with. My question is say I have 2900 psi and hammer spring a couple turns in and reach 900 FPS and I can reach the same FPS with the pressure at say 2400 psi with hammer spring all the way out. Any debate on which one is more accurate? I don't care about air usage or efficiency.

Grandson Christmas recommendation

Hello all:

I am looking for recommendations for upgrading my grandson (9) from the Beeman R7 to a pcp rifle. He had trouble with the cocking and LOP on the R7. Weight was iffy but I think that was more because of LOP and how it balanced for him. These factors have me considering bullpups (and he thinks they are cool). I have looked at a used diana skyhawk (no longer avail and cannot find current stock), Walther Reign 2 (also cannot find stocked) and Benjamin akela. In general Compact, Lighter the better, Regulated if possible, .177 or .22, accuracy to 50 yards, and in 500ish price range.

So with that.. I come to you much more experienced souls to see what recommendations I am overlooking. I appreciate your input.
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Gyroscopic Stability

This is going to be the most technical of the threads on pellet or slug stability. I am going to try to explain how gyroscopic stability works. It is a relatively simple phenomenon, easy to demonstrate in a 3D environment, but not easy to show on a 2D screen. Some people misunderstand what gyroscopic stability does to their pellets. Gyroscopic stability does not keep a pellet or any other spin stabilized projectile pointing in the same direction as the barrel. Gyroscopic stability turns a projectile to face directly into the airflow. In this way, a projectile can follow the curve of a trajectory.

If there is gross gyroscopic over stability, then the projectile has problems in being able to turn to follow the trajectory and will try to keep pointing in the direction of the barrel. However, the levels of gyroscopic over stability required to reach this state are unlikely to be attained by pellets or any other airgun fired projectile unless it is fired straight up into the air or from the top of Mount Everest. It has also been suggested that gyroscopic over stability is a cause of spiralling. I cannot see how gyroscopic over stability can be a cause of pellet spiralling, particularly as I have encountered over stable projectiles, and they drifted sideways by a long way rather than develop an apparent spiral. The other factor against this theory is that the level of gyroscopic stability required is about a factor of ten higher than seen on pellets, even at long ranges from pellets fired at high speeds.

In order to try to explain how spin stabilization works, I want you to imagine a pellet which is not pointing directly into the airflow, it is at an angle of yaw (fig 1). The angle is shown as being vertically up, but it could be in any direction.

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The object of any type of stabilization is to try to reduce the angle of yaw. Spin stabilization achieves this through a feedback system. For a pellet at yaw a lateral force is created by the airflow around the body usually centred at a point behind the centre of gravity (CG) called the centre of pressure (CP). The lateral force produces an aerodynamic moment about the CG. It is the aerodynamic moment which is important.

It is a popular misconception that stability is dependent on forces. It is not. Stability is all about moments (torque) about the CG, not forces. Yes, forces are required but only in that they are one component of the moment, the other, in the case of aerodynamic moments, being the distance between the CP and the CG. If you had an infinite force acting through the CG, it would make no contribution to stability, as the moment about the CG would be zero. Similarly, gyroscopes react to moments, not forces, when they change their attitude.

When a spinning projectile is subjected to an aerodynamic moment as in figure 1 the gyroscopic reaction is to cause the projectile to yaw about the CG, not in the same direction as the applied moment as you would expect, but in a direction at ninety degrees as shown in figure 2.

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In figure 2 you are looking directly at the front of the pellet coming towards you with right hand spin. As a result of the movement of the pellet about the CG, we now have the original vertical yaw angle from figure 1 and a second yaw angle caused by the gyroscopic reaction at ninety degrees to the original angle as seen in figure 3.

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The pellet now has a sideways yaw angle as well as the original vertical one. As a result of the new yaw angle to the side, the pellet will have a new aerodynamic side force, causing a sideways aerodynamic moment about the pellet CG. This new aerodynamic moment will produce a gyroscopic reaction in a vertical direction as can be seen in figure 4.

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As can be seen in figure 4 the gyroscopic reaction to the new sideways aerodynamic moment is to reduce the original vertical yaw angle. The reduction in the vertical angle will in turn reduce the sideways yaw angle as the aerodynamic moment is getting less, reducing the gyroscopic reaction. Thus, both yaw angles are reducing (figure 5) and the pellet is getting closer to pointing directly into the airflow as a stable pellet should.

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Figure 5

All the figures have shown how a spinning pellet reacts. Pellets are usually aerodynamically stable, i.e. the CP lies behind the CG. Slugs and bullets are generally aerodynamically unstable and have a CP in front of the CG. This causes differences, but the fundamental mechanism remains the same. For example, if we are looking at our pellet from the back as it flies away from us, an upwards vertical yaw will cause the pellet to yaw to the left as a result of the gyroscopic reaction. A slug or bullet will yaw to the right, not the left, as a result of being aerodynamically unstable. I will leave an explanation of this to another post, as this one is quite long and complicated enough for now.

UPS stinks once again!

I know, nobody wants to hear it, but UPS really sucks a lot of the time. I had an airgun returned to the sender because my street is under water right now from the hurricane. I had requested that the package be held for pickup, but somehow they still tried to deliver it and the driver said that I refused delivery. That's weird seeing that he can't get down my street. If they had just held the package there would be no problem. I just don't get it, and their customer service was no service. She tired to argue with me that they don't have space to hold all the packages right now! A billion dollar company can't figure that out, huh...

Ok rant over. Had to say it.

Taking airgun photos with your phone

A friend was asking how I do photos, so I thought I might expand my reply into something I could annoy others with, ha...

Now, I am no pro photographer...so I welcome any ideas for improvements! And many of you already know a lot of this, so apologies in advance for insulting your intelligence. The notes below are for an iPhone (my 2-year-old basic SE model), but I think most Android phones are broadly similar.


When taking the shot:

1. Phone cameras typically default to a wide-angle setting upon opening, which can distort and curve the image. You get a more natural perspective if you zoom in a third or half way.

2. Find a "quiet" background, and get as close as you can - fill the screen with your subject.

3. To my eye, it adds some interest to photograph guns (especially rifles) at an angle, and inclined a bit, rather than straight on. Your mileage may vary!


But the real secret is learning the editing features on your phone (below is a screen shot, of a photo I've finished editing on my iPhone):

1. When you open a pic and hit the edit button, the exposure control window pops up as seen below. The three buttons on the left take you back and forth between that, special effects, and the rotate/crop control.

2. The buttons on the right of this window control a long list of exposure variables (brightness, contrast, shadows, sharpness, tint, and more). But if you click the top button - "auto adjust" - the phone automatically analyzes and tweaks them all at once! I almost always use this with artificial indoor lighting, but less often with natural outdoor light.

3. I usually jack up the brightness a bit more too, to compensate for the bad lighting in my room. (Most of the time, I don't touch any other exposure settings beyond what "auto adjust" comes up with - but experimenting with those is fun. You may find other tweaks you really like.)

4. Switch to the crop/rotate window on the left. Turn the image the way you want it, then crop the shot to get rid of extraneous surroundings (people wanna see my gun, not the other junk in the room, ha).

5. If desired, hit the graphics button at the top to add text, arrows, circles, etc. Choices are limited on my phone, but you can alter size, line weight, color, etc.

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FWIW, the camera and editing on my old iPad work exactly the same as the iPhone, so you can shoot with one, transfer the image, and edit with the other. I do this a lot. My phone is more portable and has a crisper camera, but the tablet's bigger screen eases editing, organizing, and retrieving the images for posting.

IMHO the two biggies are zoom and crop. If you do nothing else, get the perspective right, and cut away the distractions. The other settings will vary, but again, are fun (and free!) to play with 😀. Most phone cameras these days can produce quite remarkable results.

PCP Rifle  WTS WTS: FX Impact .25 MK1 - complete bundle with compressor

Hello Fellas,

I have for sale a complete air rifle bundle:

FX Impact .25 MK1 with two magazines - $1200
Hawke Sidewinder Tactical 8.5-25x42 Scope - $390
FX No-Limits 30mm Adjustable Scope Mounts - $69
Atlas Bipod with ADM 170S Lever - $290
Omega Super Charger 4500 Compressor 110V - $1600
4500PSI Carbon Fiber Air Tank (Great White Shark) with 2nd gage and protection. - $600

Pellets $550:
7x JSB Exact King Heavy MKII 300ct
12x JSB Exact King 350ct
5x Benjamin .25 200ct
4x open boxes of JSB pellets

All required housing for the air tank and compressor.

Everything is barely used and in excellent condition. I have all the original recipes.
The Air compressor has only 17 hours on it.
The compressor itself is very heavy. The shipping cost will be a bit higher.
I want to sell everything as a bundle, but I can sell it separately.



Price: $4400 OBO
I prefer a local meeting - Burbank IL 60459
You cover the shipping cost.
You cover any PayPal / Zele fees.

I am more than welcome to discuss any items in that bundle.
Feel free to reach me at 773-569-8891

Thank You all for looking.
Mike

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Piledriven Buck, opening day

i got in my tripod this morning around 0545, it was 36 degrees with a light NNE wind.
brought the .457 Piledriver with me usings nsa 350gr bthp.
about 45minutes later, i had what probably was a spike come out into the clearcut
50-60 yrds away. he was small so i watched him for a few minutes and then something caught my eye
to the left.....it was mature buck walking the woodline coming straight toward me!!
i got positioned and let him come to me, knowing he would get broadside to me once he got about 30yrds away
due to fallen timber from a hurricane we had 2 years ago. so he got right where i wanted and i let Ol'Hatty sing......
he jumped straight up and came down on broken front landing gear !! thats my favorite place so i dont have to blood trail and he folded on the spot. the nsa slug was a complete pass-thru wreaking both shoulders.
this is an above average south alabama deer. 154lb 6 point
loaded him up and took him to the processor where he had 9 deer hanging in the cooler and none was as big as this one.
so i had a fine day today with 6 more days to hunt......:sneaky:

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SOLD Benjamin Bulldog.357/pitbull airgun carbine

This a Pitbull Carbine bulldog.357. With Pitbull steel charging handle, and bully tube. Trigger work by Pitbull. 3 mags, single shot tray. About 100 slugs included. Front Pic under rail. Excellent condition. Holds air 100%. $850 DOES NOT COME WITH MODERATOR, no longer have the moderator split shipping within CONTUS, Zelle or PayPal f/f (or add 3%)

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SOLD REDUCED AGAIN *MOVING SALE* Guns, Scopes, Accessories

Hi Y'all,

I am in the process of moving and realized I have a lot of equipment that I could stand to part with rather than hucking it through a few states. As always, I'm happy to send additional pictures and info. Price does NOT include CONUS shipping. I will charge actual shipping rather than overestimating with a "SHIPPED" price.

I accept PayPal (FF or buyer pays fees), Venmo, or BTC. All reasonable offers will be considered.

Air Rifles and Pistols
1. Gamo Coyote .177 (Gen 1) $300 SOLD

-I always loved this gun and wouldn't sell it if I wasn't moving. This is the model with the threaded barrel. Includes (1) magazine. Cosmetically in great shape and functions as it should. No leaks! I installed a CDT trigger and will include the original Gamo CAT trigger with the rifle. Very easy swap and I think I made a GTA thread on the process? Only defect is the magazine stop has small crack in it. Fixed with adhesive years ago and no issues. Here is a review I wrote on this gun way back when: https://www.airgunnation.com/threads/gamo-coyote-a-review-from-a-junior-shooter.40719/ Almost positive I still have the original box and all the literature that came with the gun.

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2. Birmingham, England Built BSA SuperSport .22 (Pre SE model) with BSA specific BKL mounts $275 SOLD

-Awesome little gun. It was my backup speed silo spring gun for years. I gave it a lube tune and have cared for it well. Condition is 90% with very little wear to the metal and stock. Includes 2 sets of the 1 piece 14mm dovetail mounts (the 1 piece on the rifle and a cantilever mount) you'll need for this gun. Missing rear sight.

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3. Crosman 38T and Crosman 600 (SOLD!!!)

-These are vintage C02 pistols and would make great restoration projects. They haven't been shot in years and will need a reseal and other work. 38T is missing one grip panel. Classic, all metal framed. The 38T is a SA/DA revolver and the 600 is semi-auto. I have no idea what to value these at so if you're interested shoot me a PM and we'll talk.

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Scopes:
1. Athlon Midas TAC 6-24 APLR4 Reticle $460 SOLD

-Excellent like new shape. No rings marks. Includes MK Machining Sidewheel and Scope Caps

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2. Burris RT-25 5-25x56 $450

-Like new MINT condition. No rings marks. Locking/resettable turrets + zero stop. Amazing SCR-2 Mil Reticle. Tracks perfectly. Used for RMAC 2021 and this scope took 5th in the PRS event. Will ship with original box and all original manuals.

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3. Mueller 8.5-25x44 AO Tactical $100

-Excellent shape. No rings marks. Great glass for the price point. Ships with original box and sunshade.

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4. Leapers 8-32x56 with 1/2 Mil-Dot Reticle $130 SOLD

-Great shape. Very minor cosmetic wear with no ring marks. Used as a backup FT scope for a long time. Ships in original box with 4" sidewheel.

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5. Leapers 4-16x44 $110 SOLD

-Excellent shape. No rings marks to speak of. Still in box. Will ship with a 3" sidewheel and all original accessories.

6. Miscellanous 4x32 scopes (Gamo, Simmons, Etc.). $25 for all or $10 a piece

There's 3 of these. One Gamo, one Centerpoint, one Simmons.

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7. Centerpoint 3-9x40AO Mil-Dot $40

Very dependable springer scope - Crosman used to ship these with the NPSS and Trail guns. Some light ring marks. Works and holds zero!

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8. FM Red/Green dot sight. 1" tube $40 SOLD

Nice little red dot that would do well on a pistol or smaller gun. Tested and works.

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9. Vintage Bushnell Sportview 4x32AO Duplex reticle $50

Korea-made Bushnell scope with resettable turrets. In great shape with light cosmetic scratching. Holds zero and functions as it should. I only ever used it on a QB77 (CO2 gun).

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Accessories:
1. Nikon Aculon Rangefinder. $120 SOLD!!!

Title says it all. Bought as official Nikon refurbished product. Used very lightly. Works perfectly and very repeatable. Comes with pouch and original box.

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2. Athlon 30mm 20 MOA Picatinny Cantilever mount $75

Really solid mount. If it doesn't sell I'll just throw it on an AR :)

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If anything interests you, PM me!

Thanks for checking everything out AGN. PEACE!

Nico

Inocom carbon fiber tanks?

They seem to be a good tank,I am looking at the 100 cu.in. model ,new for $165.

I would be filling my PCP Crosman pistols with it, would it be worth getting? I also would need to buy the filling hose, valve and gauge, those cost almost as much as the tank.
Any ideas as to the way to go, Been using a hand pump,Thank you.

Mike Bricker - Daystate Delta Wolf - Extreme Field Target Video

If at 1st you miss, check your equip, and try again! Mike Bricker nails his second shot after doping for more wind.


Event: Extreme Benchrest EFT
Team: Centercut
Airgun: Daystate Delta Wolf via Airguns of Arizona
Scope: Sightron Inc
Grip: ERGOAir vertical

NLA WTT FX Impact MK2

Want to trade an impact Mk2 - the silver one. For a Vulcan 3 in 25 cal 700mm. My impact is also a 700. I have both 30 and 25 cal barrels. STX stock liners. Also have xtras like a gen2 compact arca/ pic rail for the bottom. An air marksman medium 30 MOA backbone black. And a K&l probe gripper. We can discuss pricing diffences if you want all extras. Also willing to sell. With various upgrades. If interested in purchasing text me at 770-367-2190. Will see what can be worked out. Thanks

Ruined by too much of a good thing?

Anyone else have a gun that shoots so well and fits you so perfectly that it makes every other gun (that you used to love) feel sort of obsolete? A week ago I could shoot my 97k, my Dreamline, a 50S, and even my Gamos pretty interchangeably. Sure they were all a bit different and some are obviously better than others, but that didn't matter. They were fun to shoot.

Then I got this 55 Tyro. Perfectly balanced, just falls into my shoulder, shot cycle is damn near perfect. Its just an all around pleasure to shoot. So I did. Put nearly 3 tins through it in a week. I love it.

Here's the issue now though. When I picked up my 97K, my FWB Sport, my 50S, basically any other gun I have, it feels like I'm holding a 2x4 up to my shoulder. I can still shoot them just fine but it just feels wrong doing so. I didn't have this issue a week ago.

I know this is a fairly petty issue and a "first world problem" I just thought I'd bring it up to see if anyone else had a similar experience with another gun.

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