Where have you found good used airguns where you aren't paying near-new airgun prices and where you have confidence in the vendor? DO they package your guns well and ship them in a timely manner? Has it been a crap shoot or consistent? How have your used guns (from the stated vendor) held up over time?

For weeks and weeks I have been fighting a silent battle in my head (couple of you know because we keep in touch) about offloading some guns again and making a transition heavier towards BRK, Daystate….I willingly took a loss on 3 very expensive semi auto guns as a trade in to buy a and a Pathfinder today because of my very pleasant experiences with the dealer time and time again. Everyone at the dealer is top notch. I willingly took the loss to avoid dealing with folks that don’t understand the beast and would blame me for something they did incorrectly which may cause a malfunction. Trading it in at least it’s peace of mind at a loss but that’s ok. Please stay neutral and please don’t name brands and dealers (no pointing fingers) This is just my personal experience. When you buy a BMW or a Mercedes you expect awesome service right ? Guess it depends on the day of the week. My BRK dealer is awesome no questions asked guess we’re going to be driving a Bentley (British gun) a lot more. If you are thinking about buying anything message me I have owned a ton of guns. I will give you my personal experiences with the whole package. At the end of the day you might as well buy a Yugo If the Range Rover isn’t going to come with great service and 100% be ready to use without oil leaks

I’ve been looking into getting a Daystate Huntsman revere regulated since I only here great things about them my question is do any of you have the 25 cal version regulated and what kind of out the box power and shot count are you guys getting who have one

Or is it obvious to others when someone wants to sell or buy something?

The long awaited Mora has finally arrived at Talon Airguns...
In stock now.. .357, Standards and Compacts

RTI Mora Sniper 700mm AirGun - High Power Air Rifle Products

https://youtu.be/YZaEJb7aTU0

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Hey all,

So I’m new to PCP air guns - I had a few other co2 and springers, but this is a first. I went with the Avenge - X full synthetic. Looks like you can swap out to the tactical stock. I guess Im getting at which one?? There is a tactical stock chassis, a saber stock, ect.

I have the 210 tube not bottle - can someone send a link? If that’s allowed - first time posting

Thanks!

WTS, HW45 .20 caliber. I purchased this new last month for absolutely no reason, I haven’t shot it, all I did was add Hogue rubber grips, original wood grips are also included. Brand new, mint condition. I will include three new tins of sealed H&N 11.42 Grain .20 caliber pellets.

$385 PayPal’d (Family/ Gifted) and shipped to the lower 48. Great deal, no reason to buy new.

I’m new to swaging slugs. I have a pressslug and set it up but don’t know what settings with the dies I should use etc. I’m swaging .22 slugs. And what lube are people using to swage? Thanks y’all.

I just want to reiterate the problems a tick bite can bring you.I think we all are aware of the dreaded diseases they carry.If you get a bite go get the medicine as fast as you can, better to just practice good sense, like wearing colored clothes, having tick spray, looking for the rascals when you take your clothes off., also checking out your dogs and pets.....ticks feel vibrations and can jump on you. I think the ticks were on the rats and caused the "Black Plague" Now I think it was fleas, another scum bag bug

Hello Everyone,

I am planning to sell my FX Dreamline GRS w/ Falcon x50FT scope and accessories to purchase a more traditional springer type air rifle. The reason for selling is just due to the PCP platform in general requiring more gizmos and gadgets to use and use well. Firstly, I am looking for something that has enough power to kill woodchuck sized animals/pests pretty easily. Secondly, something accurate and fun to shoot in my backyard at targets, etc. I live on 3 acres with plenty of room to shoot up to 100 yards or so, although I would not be shooting pest further than 40 yards I'm sure. I do not have a strong preference on caliber but have plenty of .22 pellets..

I have looked at many options in the past and did my research but have been out of the hobby for about a year and don't know what is new in this category so figured this is a good place to start. I also need 10 posts before I can sell my PCP so I might as well get crackin. I have considered the Diana Airking 54, Hatsan 135, TX200, and Weihrauch's various offerings. I will likely get a fixed or lower variable mag scope that excels in target acquisition for hunting purposes.

Thanks for any insight!

want good quality pcps in. Which need service for reasonable price. Regulated models only


Preferred with CZ or LW barrels

While I have shot springer for about a year or more now I decided to try a foray into PCP. Just because. As the compressor thing is bit of a speed bump I thought I would start reasonable. I watched a lot of videos and decided to start with an Avenge-X in .177, For under $100 I can switch calibers later if I want to do so. In any event, I decided rather then try and get in over my preparation I would shoot it as it arrived for now. There are 2 or 3 videos I watched that suggested that the regulator would be "high" for the first couple of shots after a fill and then settle. Si I checked that out with mine and that appears to be the case. With the setting on "high" with AA 10.3 (4.52) unsorted pellets I saw this string. It was repeatable. After a fill it is at about 2000psi. After a couple shots it is about 1800 psi and then stays pretty stable.

967.9
959.9
954.5
953.1
953.1
954.5
954.5
950.2
951.6
956.0

Switching to low after a couple shots for transition I saw:

827.6
828.7
826.5
826.5

Question: What causes this to happen. Now this is just for educational purposes. I currently am not looking to do anything with the rifle, rather just better understand it.

Testing several pellet types at 50-yards saw several group in the 0.08" to 1" range. Benjamin Match 10.5s grouped the tightest at 0.69", 0.82" and 0.63" for unsorted pellets. No, I did not chrono those. This seems OK to me for a start.

I've been reading the differences of each and I'm curious about real experiences in performance and results.
In .22 and in .25 impacts, what are your favorites of each?

Some time ago I carried out some work looking at pellet spiralling (https://www.airgunnation.com/threads/pellet-spirals.1297114/) and how it could be reduced at ranges up to 100 yards. The conclusion was that increasing spin damping could reduce spiralling to negligible sizes, but of course as shooters we can do little to change the pellet design. All we can do is reduce muzzle velocities and try to obtain a barrel with reduced twist rate based on what others have found, or what manufacturers are prepared to offer.

Of the two .22 designs used in the study, it was obvious that one was more likely to suffer from large spirals than the other. Based on the evidence of an earlier thread comparing lead and lead free pellets of the same design (https://www.airgunnation.com/threads/lead-and-lead-free-pellets.1283547/), it seemed that filling in the pellet tail to increase weight made them more susceptible to yaw growth and thus spirals. The main reason for this was the change in the centre of gravity (CG) position, moving it back towards the base to make it much nearer to the aerodynamic centre of pressure (CP), thus reducing the aerodynamic moments (Cma) about the CG. The calculated values of Cma for the heavy pellet are always much lower than those for the pellet with a hollow base and a forward CG.

I started off by taking a heavy pellet design and running trajectories out to 100 yards using standard calculated values for Cma and twist rates varying from 16 to 32 inches per turn. The actual group sizes calculated are a function of the pellet based errors assumed, which are fairly severe. The important thing to look at is how the group size varies, rather than its actual size. I then arbitrarily increased the numerical value of Cma by 0.1 and repeated the exercise, and repeated the exercise again by increasing the numerical value of Cma by a further 0.1. As expected, the trajectory modelling showed that the increases in Cma reduced the sizes of the spirals and thus the group size.

This was done for two velocities, 800 and 1050 ft/sec. These velocities were chosen as they include the speeds at which the values of Cma start to change due to Mach number effects, and thus group sizes. The 800 ft/sec simulations were repeated for a medium weight pellet design to see if similar results were obtained.

The big problem is that you cannot really randomly increase the size of Cma for a pellet without changing its design. Making it longer is the easiest method to increase Cma, but that immediately changes the mechanical moments of inertia, which also changes the pellets behaviour and thus the group sizes. I had a lot of data from the literally hundreds of simulations, but it was difficult to see trends as there were too many things varying all at once, even though this was a simulation with many variables kept constant which would vary in real life testing.

In all my previous threads I would have shown three or four diagrams by now, but there was so much data, and it was so confusing I have not shown anything so far.

There is one variable which the trajectory model prints out which contains a number of the variables causing the difficulties, and that is the gyroscopic stability factor. For this reason, I decided to try plotting out the calculated group sizes as a function of gyroscopic stability factor to see if it showed up any trends.

The next problem is that gyroscopic stability factor varies as the pellet moves along its trajectory, so which value could be chosen? In the end, I decided to work out the average stability factor for each of the trajectories for each of the chosen ranges and muzzle velocities. Now the data began to make some sense.

Below are the results for the heavy pellet type fired at 1050 ft/sec at four different ranges. Each dot is for a different barrel twist rate, giving a different average SG value.





Now there appear to be definite trends that we can see. The diagram below shows all the different trajectories on one graph for both pellet designs. It looks a bit of a mess at first, but there is something we can see.



If you look closely you can see that for all the different speeds and pellet types there appears to be an optimum value of average SG for the minimum size groups. This average value appears to lie between -2.5 to -3.5.

So what use is knowing the optimum average value? By knowing the SG value needed, it is possible to calculate the optimum twist rate required for the ranges of interest. The twist rate for 100 yards will be different from that needed at 50 yards, so barrels would need to be optimized for specific purposes. It does not mean that a barrel optimized for 100 yards could not be used at 25 yards, but the groups would not be the smallest possible at 25 yards. The difference would probably be small at short ranges where groups are small anyway, so a barrel twist optimized for the longest ranges would give the best overall performance.

But is this of use to shooters? Optimizing your twist rate will not suddenly turn a poor barrel into a brilliant one. It will help to make a good pellet barrel combination give the smallest groups, particularly for long range competition shooters.

However, not many shooters will have the ability to calculate the twist rate needed. It requires some pretty involved computer programs and aerodynamic calculation, plus detailed properties of the pellets themselves. Manufacturers of guns and pellets should have the joint knowledge and programs to produce pellet gun combinations which are optimized for each other. I say should as, based on the comments of a representative of a large manufacturer in a recent article, it would appear some do not. Strelok, which had supposedly been used for twist rate information, is not suitable for this work and was never intended to be used for such detail design. Some manufacturers of barrels may be able to carry out the research, or employ someone who can do it, I do not see why not, there must be people who could do the work needed.

One word of caution. The work still needs expanding to other pellet designs, calibres and with other inputs of pellet manufacturing errors. The data so far suggests the optimum SG value will not vary a great deal, but it needs confirming. This is really only the start of the work.

Does anyone know if Krale will ship a moderator to the US?
It doesn't list US as an option and I've sent an email and still awaiting a response.

I've always loved hunting with airguns, and feel squirrels were made for airgunning. However I don't hunt much anymore, and am trying to encourage squirrel propagation on my thirty acre place. Consequently I seldom hunt squirrels nowadays; only taking out those that stray into my yard where my two work-shops reside. Started doing that after the first time a squirrel took up residence in one shop, chewed holes in the ceiling, and had a litter in the attic.

So when I saw a squirrel scamper across my back yard today after I'd (earlier) been shooting my shoulder-stocked Huben GK1 super-pistol, I decided to see if I could take out the interloper before it could squat or vandalize my shops. Grabbing the most effective airgun hunting rig ever, I figured Maggyy might enjoy learning to squirrel hunt.



Unfortunately by then the object of our quest had disappeared. Knowing something intensely interesting was going on, Maggyy was running around the yard as I slow-walked while scanning the trees for any sign and encouraging Maggyy's search. An extremely sharp-eyed predator of seven decades, I notice animate forms, color and movement like no bipedal this side of the Terminator.

I soon saw the slightest movement in my peripheral, and locked onto it while raising the scoped pistol-carbine. Even at 7X magnification it still wasn't certain if I was seeing a knot on a limb, or the top half of a squirrel head; but the more I looked, the more it seemed it could be the latter.

Though only 20-25 yards, the steep angle, small target area, and offhand shot presentation was nevertheless challenging enough to make things interesting. I needn't have worried about losing my hunting mojo to advancing age. The shot went right where intended; right between the ear and eyeball.



Maggyy loved it! And doing full credit to her Australian Shepherd breed, I'm sure one lesson is all it will take for her squirrel-hunting education.

The deceased being a tender young boar made for a quite tasty barbecue. The whole experience reminds me how much I miss hunting squirrel with airguns.

Ready for the grill-

Hello Guys. I'm having several problems with my Daystate Delta Wolf.

1. Does anyone know how to De-Cock the Delta Wolf?

2. Every time I switch the rifle to ,,Fire Mode,, and it wakes up, if I pull the trigger it will shoot... Just the air of course, because the pellet was not loaded mechanically. It has to be like so or something weird is happening?

3. It is leaking super slowly. I guess from the regulator, as I searched it's common for Alpha/Delta Wolfs...

As the title says looking for a .177 lower power is okay. Not sure what I want exactly so shoot me what you have. Uragan, airmaks, Fx. Hopefully something will peak my interest as the wheels are turning again.

Riddle me this:
If a moderator manufacturer recommends that you buy their moderators one size larger than the caliber of your gun, .......Then why do they even make a .177 cal moderator?

Successful 2-day hunt in the mountains. Hope you guys like it.

I like these guns. I zeroed them at 25 yards, I didn't shoot any clean targets afterward so I'm not posting the targets I zeroed.

Greetings everyone!

As the World Field Target Championship is approaching, we are in need to create a "Bum-Bag Box" with internal dimensions of 55 x 55 cm and a height of 15 cm. It should have a handle and hinges on the top to accommodate a bag for testing its dimensions. This is a crucial requirement as per the WFTF rules, and every competitor must have their bags tested and be able to fit inside the box. We are currently seeking a volunteer who is willing to build this crucial piece of testing equipment while simultaneously contributing to the sport and supporting our nation's hosting efforts for this event. It does not necessarily need to be built of wood; plexiglass, metal/ aluminum could also work.
Because you're willing to put in the effort to build it, feel free to brand it with your logo!

If you are willing to help us build one, please comment below and message me.

Thank you in advance for your support!!!

Garrett

Here is a picture of what was used in another country:

What is the size of the metric set screw that locks the barrel in the receiver and the metric cap screw that locks the shroud in place? Thanks, Don

Just got a vet 2 tactical from Tony at Talon Tunes put a ergo 0* grip on and a element helix and shot it at 11 yds to get basically sighted in. Today i took it to 100 and did this with 33.49 jsb slugs in 25 cal going 960 fps. If your looking for a slug gun, its not the prettiest but here you go it shoots! Circles are 7/16” and 1-3/8”
Oh and 80 shots on the reg!

I generally shoot the JSB 18.13gr through my M3 Impact. I have it tuned to shoot them around 915fps, but last order from pyramid I bought some JTS in a couple weights to try out. first up was the JST 22.07gr without changing the tune shot them amazingly well at just over 800fps (probably 1/2 inch groups) Then I tried the JST 18.1gr and there were a few flyers untill I turned the hammer wheel back from 16 to 12 and bam! one hole groups at 60 yards. I like the 22.07gr, pretty good in the breeze today.