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Pistol Scope Choices for FT or EFT

If only a true "PISTOL SCOPE" was made that took care of the nuances of field target.... sigh... AND still had that generous eye relief.

The Sightron S-tac 4-20x50 FFP MH4 reticle 25.6 oz, is currently mounted on my two main FT / EFT pistols. To date the S-Tac has been my choice HFT pistol scope, because it ranges quite well and it isn't all that heavy in comparison.
But
I'm getting ready to start testing the following scopes which i have in house now:

A) Athlon Helos BTR Gen2 FFP 2-12x42 with the AHMR2 reticle 25.4 oz

B) Vector Veyron 3-12x44 FFP 26.4 oz

C) Discovery Optics 2-12x24 FFP which comes in at 16.6 oz (lightest and cheapest at <$200.00) with a 24 inch objective i don't imagine it will be very bright in dark lanes for pistol field target but ya never know.

If any of you are using any of the above scopes for Pistol Field Target - 10-55 yards chime in and let me know how things are going
or
what scope you are using that "works for ya".

meanwhile here is three reviews:
Athlon Review of the 2-12x42:

Vector Veyron 3-12x44:

Discovery optics 2-12x24:

Results  PSA FT Results - Nov 10, 2024 (AAFTA and XFT) and 2024 Seasonal Scores

The November match wraps up our 2024 outdoor FT season. We had a threat of rain, so all our course loops were setup on our covered ranges. There were a few sprinkles toward the end of the event, but everyone was able to stay dry. There were a few new to FT shooters at this match, and I hope they had a good time and we get a chance to see everyone again over the winter or in the 2025 season.

In the spirit of the upcoming World FT competition, we used targets with 15mm, 1 inch, and 1.5 inch kill zone sizes, with about 25% of the targets being reduced KZ sizes. There were more targets at the longer ranges than our typical mix. The Green course was on the west side of our range and was shot from the deck allowing for a few wooded shots and downhill shots. The Blue course was on the east side of the range, where it is typically located. The leaves on the range helped identify what the wind was doing, and it is always fun to see a tornado of leaves go over the targets. The Red course was on the pistol range, and it too had wind, but unfortunately not many leaves or down range wind indicators; it was like shooting over a parking lot, and many struggled with the indeterminate wind on this part of the course.

The AAFTA three course average difficulty was 30.9 (hard) and the individual course section had the following average difficulties (not including environmental factors):
  • Blue - 29.1 (moderate)
  • Green - 32.2 (hard)
  • Red - 31.4 (hard)
Scores - Each course is a possible 20, and the 3 course total is of a possible 60. Ties are not broken.

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2024 Seasonal PSA FT scores are available at PSA 2024 FT League Results

This match also wraps up our 2024 season, finalizing our seasonal league results. Each course section is its own match, with the top score of the day on that section scoring 100%, and all other scores a percentage of the 100. The top 9 course section scores for a competitor, in their class, are aggregated to a seasonal score with a maximum of 900 possible points. WFTF and Open are combined into one division, and divisions are further divided by powerplant. Here are the 2024 PSA Seasonal League Results...

Top PCP WFTF/Open - Mark King
Top Piston WFTF/Open - Hector Medina
Top PCP Hunter - Doug Rogers

2024 Seasonal PSA FT scores are available at: PSA 2024 FT League Results

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The XFT course was setup on the competition range. There were 10 targets, 8 targets were kill zone type targets and 2 targets were knock down style targets. A notable target was a 3in KZ prairie dog at 109 yards.

Scores for the 20 shot XFT course are:
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Next season, XFT will be shot on a different day than AAFTA. And, we will be introducing a set of silhouette based side games on our AAFTA match days. More info will be available on our website as schedules are determined and game rules are set. https://www.palmyrasportsmens.com/Field-Target

Our next match will be Indoor FT on December 8.

PCP Rifle  NLA Edgun Leshiy Classic REDUCED

Selling my awesome L1. No leaks. Shoots great. Slight wear in breech area. The rest of the gun is in good shape with slight wear to certain parts of the gun. It’s not brand new but I’ve taken care of it. Has a Huma regulator set at 110. Wika gauge. Selling because I don’t want single shot anymore. The current setup is in .25 350mm shooting at about 34 foot pounds. comes with:

-Barrels: 350mm .22 barrel, 350mm .25, 250mm .177, .22 and .25

-Pellet dispenser Huma brand
-Accu shot monopod as a vertical foregrip
-grip extender
-fill probe


$̶2̶0̶0̶0̶ now $1800 shipped to lower 48. I ship UPS with adult signature require. Not interested in trades sorry. I ship fast.

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I Shot the HW35 Today

Standing, 10 yards, offhand, Beeman Peep and post front sight, RWS 8.2gr WC.
Anyone who follows me is aware how much I try and shoot while standing as it is good practice for silly wet and 10 meter matches.
Today I took a chance with the Star Game not unlike the targets we shot at the county fair when growing up.
It is very easy to eliminate the star when shooting from a rest or while resting your elbows on the shooting booth counter at the fairgrounds.
But offhand, at 79, with all the ailments of age…..

But I took a chance and have decided this will be my daily winter shooting challenge.
I was doing pretty well until I started tiring at around shot #14 (of 20 shots taken) and the wobbles started:

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Crosman pellets

I was curious what guns everyone is shooting that they get their best accuracy using a brand of Crosman pellets?

I don't own any high end PCP's, but do own several entry level. The only one that shoots them ok is my Gamo Urban, the rest not so good. I have a few Diana Springers (48/34) and they will absolutely not shoot any Crosman pellets.

Since Crosman pellets are sold in every sporting good store, big box store in the US, they surely have to shoot well in something or no one would keep buying them.

PCP Rifle  SOLD SOLD: EDgun Leshiy Classic L1 .177, .22, .25 barrels @ 250mm with upgrades

SOLD: EDgun Leshiy Classic L1 .177, .22, .25 barrels @ 250mm with upgrades (Akula moderator, Laminate grip, Drodzpcp double air tank, Huma gauge). Comes with original parts removed from the upgrades. Rate finish at 98% with smooth & sharp machining (no milling bit trail marks). No leaks and no issues. $1600.00

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PCP Rifle  SOLD ***SOLD*** Daystate .22 cal. Wolverine B HB Lite***

***SOLD***Daystate .22 cal. Wolverine B HB Lite. Includes 1 magazine, single shot adapter, original Daystate box. Overall EXCELLENT condition, NO dings or scratches on stock or metal, shoots great and holds air as it should. The last picture of moderator adapter shows small tool marks (was there when I bought it). Bolt handle swaps back to the right side VERY EASY, do not even have to remove bolt. I am second owner. Only selling because it has been a safe queen since I got my Red Wolf. ---
Scope and rings NOT INCLUDED

$875.00 SHIPPED

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Beeman  R7 Vortek PG4 Kit Chrono Results

So I finally got around to installing a Vortek PG4 kit in my .177 R7 that's been sitting on my desk for way too long.

Here's the results. String 1 are Crosman CPHP 7.9's and String 2 are JSB Diabolo Exact 7.33's

When I pulled what I presumed to be the original spring and seal, my shot strings had extreme spreads in the low 60's FPS and standard deviations 16-19 FPS.

The shot cycle is very much improved with a quick thud and that's about it, along with much improved accuracy and grouping. Not to mention this little rifle is now an 8-8.5 ft. lb gun after the spring kit.




String 1String 2
1
679.00​
719.00​
2
683.00​
726.00​
3
671.00​
718.00​
4
678.00​
719.00​
5
680.00​
731.00​
6
675.00​
720.00​
7
680.00​
714.00​
8
672.00​
724.00​
9
674.00​
726.00​
10
672.00​
721.00​
Individual String Statistics:
1st 10 Shots2nd 10 Shots
Min.
671.00​
714.00​
Max.
683.00​
731.00​
Average
676.40​
721.80​
Median
676.50​
720.50​
Extreme Spread
12.00​
17.00​
SD
4.14​
4.94​

Feels Good

Been away from home for the last 6 weeks due to a family emergency. Sure feels good to be back behind the scope on the airguns. Spent most of the day today shooting steel, filling bait stations- I mean bird feeders, and just shooting and filling air tanks. Even put a different scope on one just so I had a reason to sight it in and shoot some more. Definitely had symptoms of withdrawal. Good thing it was an easy cure.

PCP Rifle  SOLD WTT .22 RAW HM1000x

Have this posted for sale but have had a few folks reach out about trades and would be fine with that so figure I would post this….

Like the push over I am I got this for my daughter (actually back for my daughter)!!! It has sat in the case since and doubt it will see the light of day so time for it to actually go!

Beautiful red laminate stock, Neil Claque moderator, one magazine and hard case.

Shoots lights out with the Monster Redesign at 950 and LOVES the JTS 22.07 screaming at 1010 FPS. The custom moderator makes this thing damn near silent and is in like new condition.

Trades considered for FX King .22/.30, Impact Mk2 or 3 .30 , Daystate Redwolf HP .25, FX Crown, Kalibr Cricket Tactical .30 etc. Just let me know what ya have, can add cash on my end as needed.

Scope, rings, bipod not included.

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PCP Rifle  NLA pcp

Selling my awesome L1. No leaks. Shoots great. Slight wear in breech area. The rest of the gun is in good shape with slight wear to certain parts of the gun. It’s not brand new but I’ve taken care of it. Has a Huma regulator set at 110. Wika gauge. Selling because I don’t want single shot anymore. The current setup is in .25 350mm shooting at about 34 foot pounds. comes with:

-Barrels: 350mm .22 barrel, 350mm .25, 250mm .177, .22 and .25

-Pellet dispenser
-New extra wika gauge
-Extra huma reg
-2 huma rebuild kits
-Accu shot monopod
-O rings galore
-poppet
-grip extender
-fill probe

$2000 shipped to lower 48. PayPal f&f only. I ship UPS with adult signature require.

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FX  New DRS PRO not impressed yet

Ok so got a new DRS pro and man the gun is amazing looking and the MDT chassis is very very nice and very adjustable which is so awesome. I have spent the last few days and probably 500 rounds trying to get the H&N .22 33gr precision slugs to shoot good and i cant. I have tried every speed from 980-1025 and just can’t seem to get them to shoot good with this gun. The spread at 100 meters is well over 2 MOA. I think i need to try other ammo. The gun is amazing now i just need to get it to shoot like it looks lol

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Do you ever get fed up with Airguns?

I do. Life is some much easier with powder burners. I don't have to worry about temp sensitive, poi shift, reg pressures, etc. I am really trying to continue to enjoy these things but if I where to sell the whole lot of them I don't think I'd miss them. I have had all calibers and price ranges and it's all the same. Maybe if I lived in the city and had to but I live out in wheat country and can shoot anywhere and anytime.
Just me ranting.

They are fun but not my goto for serious hunting for anything. To each his own so enjoy them if that's your thing.

HW/Weihrauch  HW 30s Rear Sight Problem

If I could sit down with my rifle and most of you that shoot Springers I could quickly explain my problem. Explaining it here might challenge me but here goes...
On Oct 28 I received a new HW130 shipped to me by Krale in Belgium. They doubled boxed it. The outer box was in bad shape when I received it and about where the Rear Sight would be there was a hole in the box (photo attached. Oddly, the inner box showed very little damage at that same point. I have read on this forum about guys taking their new HW 30s out of the box and they were "sighted" in perfecltly. Not my experience. The "Elevation" knob (detents number 1 - 8) was all the way clockwise leaving no option to turn the elevation knob any further that way. When you look at the rear sight you see nothing broken or paint (bluing) scratched up. Here's the real heart of the issue: I watched a AOA You Tube on sighting in a new Springer Air Rifle. It's simple and he took a brand new rifle out of the box and seven shots later it was sighted in. I can't do that.
With the rifle supported I cannot get the front sight post in the small cut out - no matter how far I move forward or backward on the stock or what direction I move the rifle in.
1. When you look at the Rear Sight from behind it there is the rectangle that has the small cut out on top that you align with the post on the front site. OK, that whole rectangle is leaning to the left - maybe it's supposed to. I don't know - could you look at yours and see if it looks level or not - making sure there is no cant to the rifle when you check.
2. On that rectangle is a small square with the ball detent in the center of it. The "cut out" on the top is very small. On the bottom of that small rectangle is a slightly larger cut out that is not being used. Is that right? Small cut out on top and same type cut out but larger on the bottom?
I have a 43 year old Crosman 766 variable pump rifle that I can shoot beer cans with at 25 yards and hit them every time. I know that 's not "good shooting" for the standards of you guys and gals but - and I spent 18 months in combat in the jungle in Viet Nam firing a M16 more times that I can count - a lot of that suppressive fire but also some targeted shooting - and lastly, I also had a non-military pistol in View Nam, a Browning 9MM Parabellum (The armor at Phouc Vin could get me ammo for that pistol).
So, I feel defeated by this problem with my HW30s. No dealers where I live (Wilmington, NC) sell anything except GAMO rifles an no one repairs air rifles. I found one guy here locally that's opening a retail store in the next few weeks but I talked with him and he is only selling and working on PCP rifles.
Is it feasible to ask Krale to send me a whole new Rear Sight and on a long shot, if they did, would switching them be simple or difficult?
Thans for reading all of this. I know it's long.
Tarheel

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PCP Rifle  WTS Fx Crown MK2 22 cal Gen 2 limited edtion sabertactical chassis

Let me start by saying this is one of the most accurate rifles ive ever seen period. I have never...NEVER lost a match with it. This was my N50 bench rifle it has seen alot of wins. It was named the Hater Creator for a reason. The chassis is bran new and has never seen the outside only for pictures. It used to sit in a GRS but had a shipping issue and grs was cracked. The rifle was recently rebuild with all new seals and is ready to serve for years to come. Barrel retention screws have been replaced with stainless steel screws.

When i say accurate i mean more accurate then you or me, if you shoot groups with this rifle you will get board really fast. Accuracy is hitting what you are aiming at, Accuracy like if you miss with this rifle it is 110% your fault

Only marks on the rifle are where the scope rings made contact with the scope rail.

Rifle is tuned for JSB MRDs at 965 and its a lazer beam. I went through 10 plus liners till I settled on this one in the gun. 600mm barrel. Has upgraded 580cc tank. The rifle is fully tuned by Ken Shapley. Rifle still has a year left on factory warranty as well

Rifle has Company stickers on it but i can remove them for sale if they bother you.

Asking price is 1875.00 shipped to your door. Yea that may seem high but you will never find a rifle this accurate out of box. I have thrown over 1k dollars at liners to get to the one in this rifle now. I have always used a donnyfl Tanto on the rifle. And i suggest you do as well.

Payment by Paypal F&F gift, Cashapp & Venmo. My feedback is solid so buy with confidence. Rifle will ship in Hard fx case with 2 mags. I ship everything fast and bulletproof.

Im not a group shooter this rifle was ment for benchrest i keep getting asked for group pictures so Here is the test target i got with the tune. Picture below

I may be interested in a sawp for a Huban K1.

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