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PCP Rifle  SOLD Daystate L.E. Wolverine .22 (#50 of 50)

Sold - to a very smart guy in Florida. snooze ya loose.

$1200 TYD gets the Gun Only. It has been used very lightly and well kept (I am the 2nd owner). It is beautiful but it is used so there is normal use - cosmetic stuff.

$1600. TYD gets you the Hawk Scope with side wheel, 3D bottle clamp and moderator as attached and includes the Rowan SSL.

$1670.00 and i will include a nice hard case.

Since i believe in taking the best possible care of things i do preventive maintenance. I sent this beautiful Wolverine Limited Edition to Airguns of Arizona aprox 5 months back when i purchased it for a complete reseal / refresh so her internals are like new.

This gun is not regulated but the Harper Slingshot Valve is extremely air efficient with a low standard of deviation <5 fps by my FX pocket chrono.

Why would i sell such a beautiful airgun? I am all about Field Target and some Bench Rest, I am not a hunter so i just don't use a .22... sitting in the safe except to cycle and clean.

I have lots and lots of positive feedback so by with confidence.

251-610-8582 leave me a text please.
Paypal FF [email protected]
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Checks or money orders must clear before shipping

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Other  Scratches on HW97/TX200 style sliding breech

With the TX200/HW97/Diana 460, etc., style of breech opening, are fine scratches a common thing on the visible silver portion of the compression tube that slides back and forth? I've seen several guns that have them, including one of mine (HW97). They aren't very deep, but I'm surprised that such high-end springers don't have a better fit and polish of the metal-to-metal surfaces to prevent scratches from forming.
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Umarex  Umarex Notos

Thought I'd show a group at 25 yds (shot today) from a new Notos I got from AOA a few days ago. This air rifle is accurate. It shoots the JSB Hades pellets really well. I've shot several groups around .2" at 25 yds since I've had it. Exceptional in my opinion for a $260 air rifle. My FX barely shoots better. Problems: I had to work the trigger over from plus 5# down to 2 1/2#. Took some time, but the second stage is very crisp and nice now. Second problem is the magazine. Finally got it to run two pellets through before jamming. That's the best I've got it to work so far. Ordered two different aftermarket mags. Hopefully they work better. Single shot tray works okay. 20PPC

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FX  Delta Force Strong!!!

Had a really awesome experience over the last few weeks getting to know a fella by the name of Lodewyk Jansen van Vuuren. He owns and makes the Delta Force chassis which he was kind enough bring with him on his trip to RMAC. In a word, AWESOME!!! That’s all I got in a word, but to describe it in depth will take some time. There’s so many features and just great design in this chassis it is truly a pleasure to shoot with. I’ve had many MDT chassis, from the LSS to the ACC and this one is my favorite. Not to MDT can’t make a chassis, oh they can, and they are great, but I really like this chassis. I’m going to tease you a little and give a full write up later, with weight, length, adjustability and how it all works. In a few short mins, my DRS went from this,,, to this.

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Other  Serpent Arms 28ga kills serpents!

Had a big gopher snake get caught in a rat trap tonight. It started going crazy and went after my cat dragging around the rat trap so to be humane I tested my new 28ga Serpent arms air shotgun!
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it blew apart the head pretty good, I took the rest off with a shovel. Normally I'm not up for killing harmless animals but it was badly injured from the trap so I thought it was more humane to put it out of its misery.

The shotgun is really loud! I yelled FIRE IN THE HOLE before i shot because neighbors were outside.

The trigger pull must be 20lbs, it's ridiculously hard to pull. But for pesting it does a great job! I've tried 00 buck in the shells but it can only fit 4 pellets and doesn't seem to be super accurate with big shot like 00 or 00+.

Edit to add: the 28ga does very well with small shot like #1 bird or similar loads. For taking small game or target shooting with birdshot is what this gun is really good for, I think.

Hunting From a Tree Stand - How Shooting Downward Affects Trajectory with Big Bores

I've been considering adding a tree stand to my hunting repertoire. It's something I've been thinking about since last year. I'm specifically think of this in regard to hunting deer. As I expand my hunting knowledge, I'm interested in considering hunting from a tree stand. I prefer to be on the ground and have the ability to maneuver and stalk a deer when necessary. Beating them on the ground just seems like it is more rewarding because I'm not trying to eliminate their use of scent. As I thought about it more, I realize that the more I focus on buck hunting, I'm not just competing with the deer. I also compete with other hunters.

With that said I'm wondering how shooting at a downward angle with affect my shot trajectory. More specifically, how does it affect hold under and maybe hold over)? I would think that hunting from a stand I'd be able to take more close range shots within say 25 yards or so. On the ground it been more like 35- 65 yard shots. Should I be focused on zeroing my rifle at a closer range? If it shoots pretty flat at ground level, can I expect the same shooting from around 15' - 20' above ground level? Advice from experienced hunters would be appreciated. If you can point me towards good published information specific to big bore air rifles, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks in advance to all that respond with pertinent information.
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JSB .22/20.83 BC and first impressions

Had a few hrs this morning to collect some data on the JSB .22/20.83, aka the “JSB Jumbo Exact Light.” I’m thinking that I’ll just refer to them as “Lights” b/c I can’t think of any other JSB that uses that nomenclature (off the top of my head).


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Test bed is this BRK Ghost.
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Reg pressure of 150 b/c it’s set up for .22 Monster Grands and I didn’t feel like lowering the reg pressure for this short test of the Lights. Power wheel on MIN. Barrel is an OEM Ghost barrel. 5 groove polygonal rifling in a 1:30 twist rate. Choked and 23inches long.




First order of business was to gather some speeds at the muzzle. 12 shots over the chrono and those 12 are in column A in the screen grab of the spread sheet I’ll share here in a second. Average was 958-959fps, for about 42.5fpe. I had a larger extreme spread for the muzzle speeds than I’d like to see, likely an artifact of having a reg pressure too high for the hammer strike and this particular pellet. Also hotter than I wanted to test them, but didn’t want to drop the reg pressure so forged ahead at this muzzle speed.



Moved a pellet trap to 29 yards and took 3 shots to see where pellets were hitting, relative to my scope zero for the Grands. That was to prevent shooting my chronograph. Impact point slightly high and slightly left.

Set out the chrono like this……the two “groups” are the 3 poi verification shots, and the 10 shots than went over the chrono right below that. Aim point for the 10 over the chrono was the 8. Didn’t measure, but that 10 shot group is probably about 3/8.”

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Then moved the trap to 90 yards. Right next to the steel paddles so I could find poi to help line shots up over the chrono eyes. Took a total of 20 shots, intentionally placing them about 2 inches wide. In the past I’ve had trouble getting shots to line up over the chrono eyes at longer range so took enough shots to make sure that I got a good representation of retained speed at 90 yards. The chrono captured 18/20.
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The following spread sheet contains the data from those three chronograph distances.

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Column A = all shots at the muzzle
Column B = shots at the muzzle but outliers removed (two lows and one high)
Column D = all shots at 28 yards (just in front of the 29yard trap, 29yards verified with laser rangefinder)
Column F = all shots at 90 yards (90 yards verified with laser rangefinder)
Column G = shots at 90 yards but outliers removed (two lows and one high)
Column H = shots at 90 yards with further outliers removed, essentially the median speed of 90 yard shots

Line 20 = average fps of that column
Line 21 = extreme spread of that column
Line 22 = standard deviation of that column
Line 23 = fpe of the average speed of that column
Line 25 = GA BC of that column (ie BC at 30 yards and BC at 90 yards, differences being how many outliers were excluded) BC calculator used is the “EasyBC” app, and the speed at two distances function.


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After that I decided I still had time to shoot one EBR card at 100 yards. Top left bull was used for 5 sighters, then shot the next 25 shots as “scored” shots, 5 at each bull and shot in the order of the numbers I wrote on the cardboard backer. Included the backer b/c it’s slightly easier to see the hits than the peach colored paper that ripped. Fresh backer this morning so it has the two 30 yard groups on it, as well as the 20 shots at 90 yards for fps gathering.
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3/5 100 yard groups are just a hair bigger than MOA.

The wind picked up a bit towards the end of the 3rd group. Wind was from 8 oclock and quartering out, pushing pellets right and lifting them, as such a wind typically does.

Score was about a 229, depending on plugging.





Impressions and opinions….

I first started getting excited during that 10 shot group at 29 yards. Yes it’s only a short distance, but it’s also a pretty tight group.

Excitement built during the 20 shots at 90 yards. Pellets were going where I wanted them to, as I intentionally scattered them across an area about 2 inches wide to make sure I’d catch enough with the chrono to be useful. There were a couple of those 20 shots that went right into the previous pellet hole that I was aiming for.

I was also pretty dang impressed with how they shot during the card at 100 yards. The wind did lift and push them a bit more than I think it would have in a similar wind if I was using a really good batch of .22/25.4 Monster RDs, but they seem leaps and bounds better than the .22/18.13 at resisting the wind.

42fpe is nothing to sniff at. I was surprised they did so well so fast. I’ve found the 18.1s don’t retain their speed as well. Some guns will shoot an 18.1 really fast, but by 100 yards it doesn’t matter b/c they’ve stripped off a comparable % of their initial speed to where you might as well shoot them at a reasonable 890-920. BUT, the Lights seem to do pretty good at this higher speed.

Ballistic coefficient….couple things here. This is from a slow twist poly barrel at high elevation (5600 feet). When I shoot these from this gun in my area I’ll use a BC of 0.05-0.052. Different barrels and lower elevation are likely not to produce a BC quite that high. A realistic range of 0.046-0.052 is probably very reasonable for the Lights. Which makes them a helluva lot better than a .22/18.13 and perhaps slightly better than a .20/15.89.

I don’t think they’ll turn into a popular option for long range pellet competitions. For anybody still hanging onto .22, they’ll likely use the .22/25.4 Monster RD. And with the new .30 AEA pellets producing BCs up north of 0.07…..I can’t help but wonder if the .22’s days as a viable long range option for pellet competitions is numbered.

The big question is whether or not these .22/20.83 Lights are as good at 890-920 as they were for me at 960 this morning. IF what my prelim data session suggests holds true for them at 890-920 also, this pellet would make a great option for many of those classic .22 PCPs in what has become sort of the midrange power level.

As @Dairyboy pointed out elsewhere, for what they are, I think JSB hurt sales by pricing them where they did. The serious competitors aren’t likely to buy piles of these to compete with. And the lovers of the .22/18.13 are likely to stick with the more economical option. The flip side of that is that this is an entirely new design, which means new dies, which means these pellets are probably at the pinnacle of their quality. (ie if all of this appeals to you, try a couple tins and if you gun likes em then STOCK up and STOCK UP BIG cuz they’re only going to go downhill in quality, and uphill in price as time goes on). And yeah that’s a bit of a jaded thought, but JSB has done a pretty good job of following that trend so…the truth hurts.

They are much more sippy of the air than this same gun pushing the Grands to the same 960ish speeds. And the report with the Lights was much quieter. That’s a bit of an obvious conclusion I suppose (42 versus almost 60 fpe).

The .22/20.83 grain JSB Monster Light does have a bit more power potential than a .22/18.13, and certainly a better BC. This pellet has my stamp of approval for anybody wanting to eke out more performance from their PCP in the 35-42fpe realm.

With the greater availability of .22 versus .20 pcps, the new .22/20.83 Light is an easier way to get similar performance as I’ve been seeing from the JSB .20/15.89. If I didn't have such a large supply of .20/15.89s, I'd be stocking up on the .22/20.83 Lights.

It’s always good to have options.

Air Arms  Quiet .177 PCP

70 yr old NOOB. I have a 2 piece stock AA S200 with unknown moderater tuned by some unknown enthusiast. It is the quietest PCP I have personally shot. I have a Stormrider .177 with Buck Rail but is considerably louder. I was hoping it would be nearly as quiet as AA S200, it isn't. I would like to get another .177 PCP that is nearly as quiet as my AA S200 just for a comparison.

What should I be looking for in the used .177 PCP market for an ultra quiet .177 PCP? Another AA 200 or tune the Stormrider or ....?

Hatsan  Im shaking my head at this one...



Look at the price! I bet the high bidder backs out after winning!
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PCP Rifle  SOLD Wildcat MK3 BT .25 ( reduced )

I have a Wildcat VP that I put an FX 480 CC carbon fiber bottle on in place of the original aluminum one that came on it, so it has the 600 mm barrel in .25. I bought it new and it has two years factory warranty remaining. The gun is perfect in every way and has had nothing but dry air run through it. The liner has the carbon sleeve on it and it will come with two factory mags. Scope and Donny Tatsu are not included. Asking $1150 shipped CONUS. Moderator can be added for an extra $100.

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PCP Rifle  SOLD (REDUCED) Skout Epoch

.25 cal. Basically new Skout latest edition, all original with case, tools, manual etc. comes with arca. Front rail, stud magazine and 3D printed butt hook from member on this forum and Two digital gauges (bottle/hp reg.) plus original gauges, will include several tins of .25 pellets and slugs. ( NEED IT GONE! )$1825.00 Split shipping, PayPal, conus only.
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HW/Weihrauch  Weihrauch 125 Years 1899 Limited Editions

Krale has the limited edition 97k and 50s up for sale. I also noticed a .20 97k blue laminate up as well.


No more gamo for me

Been airgunning for over 50 years, my first gamo was a 177 cal whisper around 10 years ago, I was at 9000 feet in the mountains when the spring broke. I chalked it up to lack of air at elevation causing spring slamming, next one was a 177 with a nitro piston. 3rd was the gamo swarm. The swarm after about 1000 rounds started shooting low so I sent it in and 3 weeks later I get the gun back with a paper stating the "velocities" as if it was ok, all around 900 fps. The gun STILL shot bad so I took it apart and found this....

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Of course they wont sell me one and I AINT sending it off for another 3 weeks, I got one from Australia and wow, I am still trying to get it on! With that said why in the world would I want a PITA gun, 2 out of 3 I have bought are garbage. I loved the accuracy, until I didn't.

Benjamin  Benjamin Knurled Bolt

I picked up this Benjamin 392P on the used list at AOA. It came with this knurled bolt. Being a lefty, I prefer it over the traditional right leveraged bolts. I can’t seem to find one on the market anywhere. I doubt it’s custom made because I have seen these on other Benjamin 397/392’s. I have other‘s that I would like to change over. The knob is larger than the knob on the Benjamin pistol. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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