Outside 22 and 25 cal. They are LW. But what are the”proprietary barrels”? I’m feeling also LW , but with some refining. Am I wrong?

If you must dispatch an animal with an air gun that you want DRT a good 0.22 or better that can reliability penetrate the skull and reach the brain is your best option. More gun isn't going to change a well placed shot to the skull with a decent 0.22. Even with big bores, If you take lung or heart shots there is a significant chance they will run 30 yards or more. Very few air guns have to power of these PB. and the PB often fail to deliver DRT hits.

If you don't mind your neighbor finding dead, or wounded animal in their backyard, please disregard this post.

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This is a beautiful rifle, laser accurate. Trigger to die for. Comes with titanium cylinder and bare original cylinder and 4 mags.
$900
OPEN TO PCP TRADES. I'm looking for something new to play with.

I went through several high end guns. Eventually, the taipan vet long was that gun. Didn’t even really “feel “ it at first, but it grew on me and still does to this day. The epic 2 is the other. Same general mold. Others had serious quality stuff, just some didn’t grab me. I know “Leon” will be here with the BRK Atomic, and rightfully so! There is no judgement, what was YOUR gem?

I was testing pellet sorting this morning and the HW97 was fantastic. I was shooting from a rest. Top row was sorted pellets, the bottom row was the rejects. Both were pretty good but the sorted ones were a little more precise with fewer flyers.

25 yards, three shot groups so I could see all the shots.

Well... it happened. Looks like the regulator in my 3-year old FX Crown has given up and is leaking air.
Looking for repair shop options in the San Fran/Bay Area to avoid obscene shipping charges and miserable waiting times.
Any help appreciated.
Cheers.

This is a compilation of crazy iguanas! Hope you will enjoy

For Sale is my Wildcat MK3 BT Sniper .22
Has Slug Power kit installed as well as a front sling swivel on the underside of the forearm & two .22 FX mags. Purchased new from Central Florida Airguns in February 2024. Has seen less than 500 slugs.
Extremely accurate, consistent, and precise. Only reason I'm selling is to fund more parts for my new .30 Impact.
Can include a new .30 Donnyfl Ryu (direct thread) for $160 or a .30 Impulse Air IA-1200 for $170

Also have an open box Vector Veyron 6-24 IR FFP to include for (SOLD)

Will ship in padded box, insured for the full value.

$1300 shipping included

PayPal or Zelle only.

So....

A simple little question:

Who here has too many springers?
And if your answer is "yes", when did it hit you?

Keep in mind - I'm not Big Brother and this is just a hot stove conversation, not an interrogation.
Its more like looking at The Five Stages of Springer Addiction. I'm thinking this would be #4...

#1. Introduction to Springers.
(The discovery phase)
#2. Acquisition of many Springers.
(Gunsmithing your own Springers)
#3. Acquisition of top quality Springers.
(Moovin' on up.....!)
#4. Realization of too many Springers.
(NEVER!! Never, I say...!!!)
#5. Acceptance/Dispersal of Springers.
(A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do)


Personally, I'm at Stage 2.5 and working hard to avoid 4 & 5...!

My Artemis (Snowpeak) M22 is quite pellet picky. It shoots H&N Baracuda 18 the best when tuned at about 110 bar reg pressure and that is at 940fps, just below the max speed of 970fps.. One hole at 25 meter, 10 - 12mm at 50 meter and so on. Some other pellets are doing OK but not as good. JSB 18.13 never did good with this rifle. Well, I increased the pressure to about 160bar and changed to a stronger hammer spring. It does not have a plenum gauge so it is a guess according to shooting string to see when the speed change. I tuned it for JSB 25gr pellets and it is doing good, not as precise as the H&N but good enough. With the same reg pressure I tried JSB 18.13 and turned down the hammer after every few shots to se what happens. To my surprise it settled at 920fps and was doing very good at 25 meter, much-much better than it did previously. I did not check longer distances as the wind was strong and gusty and the longer ranges are not as protected as the 25 meter range which is sheltered between buildings and trees. The max speed with the JSB on this reg pressure is 1080fps, thus the 920fps is 160fps lower than the max. This is a bit confusing to me (I am still learning and will till the end) as the general rule is that a good tune is supposed to be somewhere on the knee, just below the max speed. With the reg set at 110 bar or other lower pressure the JSB 18 would never shoot good, no matter matter the speed and how much I adjusted pressure and hammer.

Question: Is this normal for some rifle / pellet combinations to shoot precise that much below the max speed, way below the knee?

1. Airmak Katran .22 with folding stock. Purchased new. $800.
2. SOLD. RTI .22 Prophet Compact.
3. SOLD. RTI .22 Prophet II. Built from a "Naked" chassis with all new parts.
4. SOLD. Ataman .22 BP17.
5. SOLD. LW LR .22 barrel with shroud.
6. SOLD. CZ .25 compact barrel for RTI. With mags and pellet probe.
7. SOLD. Huggett .22 shroud for FX.
8. Huggett .22 long shroud. $150.
9. SOLD. FX .30 cal., 500mm barrel with shroud.

Please PM for additional information, photos & email/cell #.
Thanks for looking.

About 10 months ago I almost got back into PCPs. Currently I have an AA TX200. I went through a bunch of different brands/models over a 10-year period which ended about 4 years ago when I got tired of chasing air (2 hour round trip) and couldn't keep my Omega Super Charger running; Daystate, FX, Air Arms, and my favorites the Steyr Hunter Scout and LP50 HP pistol. I sold them all and didn't take a beating.

I see some good reviews on a few more reasonably priced, dependable (?) compressors; Air Ventura Rovair and GX CS4-I.

It appears PCPs have gone up in price and the used market seems to be holding up pretty good (great for seller, but....well you know).

My interest is plinking to be competent squirrel hunting. I'm pretty sure I'm going for a Charlie Frears Cricket. I like the 25 carbine except for its 46" length - I'd rather have 30-36" OAL). The Mini with skeleton stock looks good too. The Brocock Ghost looks pretty nice as does the Cricket Tactica.. However, I think I'd like to keep everything under $2,000.

I know the Taipan folks are extremely pleased and if it weren't for what seem to be blocky stocks I'd be more interested. I don't want a gun I have to tinker with (that's why the Steyrs were so great).

Any input is welcome.

Thanks

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Like new only used a few times. Everything included. 2 mount options USB charger and instructions

I have a drone (Phantom 3 Standard) that I'd hoped to use for airgun hunting & spotting prey on the larger permissions I have. Unfortunately the camera gimbal isn't functional but everything else is! I decided to get a new drone for hunting but was hoping one of you RC guys might PM me & let me know where I might sell the old one (LOTS of extras, 2 batteries, camera lens filters, carrying case, extra blades, etc.) A little help, PLEASE!
MODERATORS: I know this is kind of off topic but kind of not (pertains to airgun hunting). I'm NOT trying to skirt the rules here. Didn't know where to post this on AGN or IF it's OK to do so.

This guy hides in tree until sparrow shot. Scope down, pick up, devour and fly away.

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Up for sale is my extremely rare RTI Prophet Compact with a CZ .177 Barrel. Rifle was purchased new from AoA in May of 2023. I’m the second owner and rifle was purchased here on AGN. See original post below:


Items included in sale:
RTI Power Plenum - installed
KLS - PRS Buttstock and Bag Rider combo
3 x 15 Round Magazines
RTI Hard Case
All Paperwork
All original parts that were replaced are included.

The gun is in 99% condition, only marks are very slight on picatinny rails where scope and bipod were installed.

Asking $1150 $1025 shipped. PayPal gift or add 3%! Serious Buyers ONLY Please! I've been on AGN for years with tons of positive feedback, so should you! Thanks for looking!

Text or PM for additional information or pics!

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What is airgun efficiency? It's calculated based on shot count obtained within a specified pressure range at the average energy over said pressure range. How can we manipulate efficiency?

Efficiency is directly tied to many things, from barrel length, to plenum volume, however the most crucial, and the one I'll discuss briefly is port diameter. Efficiency in itself is a non-linear bell curve, meaning at plateau (peak obtainable fps) it'll be at or near its lowest efficiency, and as you detune / reduce the power of an airgun, the efficiency will climb, that is until you reduce power so much, efficiency will stagnate and then decline due to other losses overcoming the reduction of air being released, primarily, projectile to bore friction, and projectile break away friction.

The further from plateau (peak fps) you tune a gun, the more efficient on air it becomes. Plateau is decided by many factors, but the critical one being discussed which can easily be manipulated via a velocity metering screw, a quarter turn valve, a drill bit, or rotary tool, is the port diameter.

This means, that a .22 cal ported to 70% of bore @ .154" will be less efficient at ANY equal or less power level compared to another otherwise equal .22 cal ported to 85% of the bore @ .187", however, if tuned to its plateau, the 85% bore ported .22 cal will begin to consume more air, as its Mass Flow Rate increases and loss always outpaces gains in efficiency the more energy you attempt to extract from a given airgun.

This does NOT mean your average user should go full bore porting, or even close, without extensive knowledge of an airguns limitations, from loading a pellet without causing damage, to what other obstruction in the system may limit the port diameter equivalency at that particular section of airway.

The caveat to de-tuning further and further from your plateau, is that fps from shot to shot (extreme spread) will likely increase without some sort of mitigation (valve lift limiter, and valve balancing via closing force/opening force ie valve spring/hammer spring balance), due primarily to variance in reg pressure from shot to shot, be it 1-2 bar or even .5 bar, from minor shifts in the energy produced by your hammer strike be it from surface quality, angle of gun, and even sear disengagement inconsistency.

There are two ways (that I am aware of) to calculate efficiency, thermal, and volumetric, however if you were to graph both, the change in efficiency would appear identical. So identical structure, just different numbers which represent said structure, or plots.

Volumetric efficiency is commonly expressed as fpe/ci (or for some, joules/cc), where as thermal efficiency is simply seen as a % value of energy obtained from the overall energy released. Most airguns operate around 25-30% thermal efficiency when tuned well, which translates to approximately 1.3-1.6 fpe/ci.

However, when tuned to absolute plateau, or peak fps, the efficiency is generally .9-1 fpe/ci, or 15-18% thermal efficiency. The difference in power from a 1 fpe/ci tune compared to a 1.3 fpe/ci tune is marginal, between 5-10%, however the difference is efficiency in 30%, meaning you only have to sacrifice around 5% of your plateau to potentially increase your shot count by upwards of 30%. This not only increases efficiency, but also tames the shot cycle, as you will notice less recoil due less air being lost when exiting your muzzle...as well as less overall energy being initially released into the bore.

This means that, if you plateau at 35 fpe, you're ejecting around 233 FPE through your valve, however, most of this energy is lost thermally before the projectile absorbs it, and the remainder is ejected from the barrel as the pellet outpaces it. Insane right? Even when tuned efficiently at 30% thermally, you are losing around 82 fpe and ejecting a total of 117.

The difference in 117 fpe being released from an airgun valve and 233 is, a lot, and there is without a shred of doubt, every single shooter will notice the difference between the two tunes.

Food for thought. Hope you enjoyed the read and have yourself a great day!

-Matt

Hello everyone,

I have for sale the following rifle scopes which are just like new condition and in perfect working order. At one time each scope was mounted on a rifle and shot from indoors on a benchrest. These were all purchase new from a dealer and I have all of the original boxes and items that came with each scope. I will ship these double boxed to lower 48 States only.

Please NO TRADES: If you have any questions send me a PM. I have all Positive Feedback here on the Forum.

I have these listed on my personal website so they can be purchased with a credit card.

VectorOptics Tourex 6-24x50, FFP, 30MM, Tube, w/Rings, SCFF-19 , $250.00


Aztec Emerald 5.5-25x50, FFP, 34MM, Tube, w/Rings, AZT-E552550FFP, $435.00


VectorOptics Minotaur 12-60x60, SFP, 34MM Tube, w/Rings, SCOL-40, $375.00

Thank you,
ThomasT

Which is better for squirrel hunting mrad or moa or is it more of a preference since all shots will likely be well under 100yds with a m4 impact. 25 that I'm thinking about ordering specifically for squirrels? Thanks

SOLD

Up For Grabs

Dreamline Classic in Walnut .177 w/Power Plenum

Gun is less than 6 months old and is the Latest Version with the Factory Aluminum barrel Band and Externally adjustable Regulator screw.

Gun is in Immaculate shape, and the stock is Gorgeous.

Gun is currently set up shooting the jsb 10.34 just under 20fpe, perfect for F/T

I added a front sling stud to use the UTG screw on Picatinny rail, easily removed for offhand, or if using a rest. (currently Not on the gun)

Extra's included:
STUD Mag Loader System
2 x STUD Magazines (plus the factory mag for a total of 3 mags)
The removable UTG Picatinny Rail mentioned above

Gun will ship in factory box inside outer brown box,

All paperwork included that came with the gun
Fill Probe with machined foster fitting and spare orings for probe included

Asking Price is $950.00 Now $895.00 shipped

Will ship UPS, Signature Required, and Insured within the Lower 48

Payments accepted:
Paypal goods and services - add 3.5%
Paypal Friends and family - no additional fee's
Credit/debt Card over the phone through Square- add 3.5%
Postal Money Order. (Gun will ship After payment clears my bank)
Zelle - no additional fee's

No Trades Accepted

I purchased the FX Panthera Compact in .22 Cal with the folding Factory Dynamic folding AR 15 style Stock adapter and Sliding UTG Buttstock. The FX Compact was selected and purchased after seeing the video posted by Justin at Utah Air Guns. In fact, Utah Air set it up to match what being demonstrated by Justin's gun.......with the only change being the scope selection. The rifle is lightweight and accurate for my purposed use as a squirrel buster for typical 15 to 50 yard shots. My Panthera Compact was set up and tested by Utah Air to shoot .22 Cal JSB Hades 15.89 pellets at approximately 890 FPS. I purchased 4 extra FX new style with thicker lid magazines too. The gun is accurate and lightweight.

However .......about every 25 or so pellets that are shot.........the feed from the loose pellets in the new style deeper FX magazines lids.... jam...... kinda crooked and will not feed into the hole (breech) of the rifle. When i remove the magazine, the pellet is kinda crooked at an angle in the magazine and stuck. I have to poke it with a wooden chopstick to get it straight and then reinsert the magazine into the rifle.

Does anyone else have this feeding issue?
It seems to me..... there is too much room inside the new style Panthera magazine for the pellets and the thicker lid needs to have a deeper ring inside the cover to reduce the space and keep the pellets held tighter.

I also own a FX Crown .22 Cal with the older thinner magazine lids and have never had this issue shooting the same Hades pellet.

I called Utah Air, and the gentleman I spoke with said they never have this problem with the Panthera.
Hummmmm........

Also, the FX Dynamic Adapter has an excessive amount of wobble, so the Buttstock feels loose in that folding part.. Does anyone have any suggestions how to tighten that up?

Thanks

I love my FX Wildcat Sniper but it is to long and heavy for the way I hunt squirrels, looking for a compac bt. in .22
Made inquires to Utah and Cape fear so far, any comments on buying from these businesses or maybe others I don't know about before I jimp in would be appreciated.

We're seeing new brands and models of pellets being offered these days which is is great. Competition and choice is always good.

I've seen a couple of videos/blogs where people are evaluating and testing these new pellets in their "known to be accurate" airguns.

This doesn't make sense to me as the airgun is the biggest variable.

If we have a non-adjustable airgun we go through the process of finding the "golden pellet" that is most compatible with that particular airguns' factory tune and harmonics. Sometimes slightly different manufacturing tolerances will even cause airguns off the same production line to prefer different pellets.

With tunable airguns we can adjust the power to get excellent performance with a particular pellet.

Some airguns are less "pellet picky" than others but in both cases (fixed or tunable) we can't randomly choose a pellet and expect it to perform well.

So what is the purpose/value in "testing" pellets? The new pellet being evaluated may or may not be compatible with that particular airgun through no fault of the pellet's design or manufacture.

I think that you can check a pellet's quality to see if it's consistent in weight and size and inspect it for imperfections and cleanliness but you can't "test" it because the testing is only valid for that particular airgun.

Seems to me that the caveat "your milage may vary" strongly applies to pellet testing.

Don't know, am I missing something obvious?

Cheers!

Has anyone tried the Athlon Heras 4-20X50 scope for HFT or specifically PFT? Please let me know your thoughts especially about how well it ranges. Thanks.